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Offline Ruskin

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h-110
« on: June 21, 2010, 09:12:01 AM »
I have some .357 loads with H-110.  When I fire I feel what I believe to be unburnt powder on my face.  I was shooting a J-frame with 3" barrel.  With H-4227 I don't experience the issue.

Is it possible that H-110 has not burnt and is what I am feeling?
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Re: h-110
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2010, 02:00:53 PM »
Two things come to mind.  Bullet is light or charge isn't near max.  H110 isn't efficient with light loads, stay within 90% of max.  Also, best use is with bullets on the heavier side for the caliber you're using.
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Re: h-110
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2010, 06:38:17 AM »
good thoughts
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Re: h-110
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2010, 07:38:37 AM »
How's your crimp?   H110 likes a heavy crimp.

Steve :)
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Re: h-110
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2010, 08:38:01 AM »
And a magnum primer.
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Re: h-110
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2010, 12:01:12 PM »
This is kinda interesting. I had the powder in the face with the 4227, but H110 burns out clean. This was in a 45LC.

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Re: h-110
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2010, 12:20:03 PM »
  In my 44 mags, H-110 has always burned cleaner than 4227...

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Re: h-110
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2010, 04:40:29 AM »
I've had the same experience as DM. H110/W296 has always been a cleaner burning powder. Seems like it was a more accurate powder too. gypsyman
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Re: h-110
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2010, 08:08:46 AM »
Not to get OT, (I use H110 in .44 Mag w/mag primers and a heavy crimp) but you get powder in your face? In my experience unburned powder goes forward out the bbl, or sideways out the cylinder gap. The only time I recollect getting anything in my face was a revolver was shaving lead from cylinder/bbl. misalignment. Am I missing something here?
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Re: h-110
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2010, 02:34:28 PM »
Ruskin,

I haven’t seen anything on boolit weight, or maybe I missed that…

I shoot H-110 in my 357 Magnum, 44 Magnum, and 45LC and I don’t seem to have the “powder in the face” problem…

I am using “heavier than accepted” boolits for each cartridge.  That may help get the powder all burnt…

I do apply a crimp, but not the “heavy” crimp as often mentioned…

I always use a magnum primer…

I am a bit puzzled about powder coming back at you.  Are you sure it is unburnt powder?  Even a misaligned cylinder to bore I wouldn’t think would throw debris back your way…

Good-luck…BCB
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Re: h-110
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2010, 02:49:24 PM »
Quote from: Ruskin on June 21, 2010, 09:12:01 AM
I have some .357 loads with H-110.  When I fire I feel what I believe to be unburnt powder on my face.  I was shooting a J-frame with 3" barrel.  With H-4227 I don't experience the issue.

Is it possible that H-110 has not burnt and is what I am feeling?

The part in red tells me that its not an alignment problem , I'm thinking more of a pressure issue , not in the normal sence but more of a flame cutting issue like what was happening with the 357 Max in some Ruger wheelguns , the hot gas & burnt carbon are coming out the brl / cyl gap and could be bouncing back into your face .

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Re: h-110
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2010, 05:17:00 AM »
I know it is not cylinder alignment or lead shaving.  I did ok with 4227.

I am going to try crimping some of the loaded rounds which gave me the problem.  I had loaded them before I got my finishing crimp.  It is an additional step; however, it could prove a point about pressure.
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Re: h-110
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2010, 06:37:38 AM »
Ruskin:  H-110 is the same as Winchester 296 and I use the Winchester loading data whenever I use either powder.  Winchester advises the use of a Winchester Magnum Primer and a very heavy crimp. 

You did not mention which bullet/bullet weight you were using but I have never had a problem with unburnt powder or lead shavings blowing back with H-110 or 296.  Hope this helps.
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