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 There is some alarm that the prez is considering making that many illegals, full citizens..no matter that the overwhelming majority of Americans is diametrically opposed to such a treasonous (IMO) act.
    
      http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/23/lawmakers-warn-administration-plan-unilaterally-grant-blanket-amnesty/

   Were he to do this, it would be a gross misuse of "executive order" privileges. Do not doubt that he may just do that, since the Obamacare medical plan was passed through against the wishes of the great majority of the American people and the drilling cessation, throwing hundreds of thousands og Gulf coasters ..out of work..
   Likely he plans on being a one-time prez..figuring he can do enough damage to the U.S. in one term, to drive us into abject Socialism/Marxism...thereby advancing the Cloward-Piven plan for our enslavement.
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What a shameful thing to even consider, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit. Millions more dumcrap votes. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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I think health care showed that he doesn't care what the vast majority of Americans think.
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The last TWO presidents didn't seem to care what the people thought or wanted.
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George Bush did what the majority wanted.
"Brother, you say there is but one way to worship and serve the Great Spirit. If there is but one religion, why do you white people differ so much about it? Why not all agreed, as you can all read the Book?" Sogoyewapha, "Red Jacket" - Senaca

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George W didn't do what a majority of voters wanted, George W was what a majority of voters thought was the lessor of evils. eddiegjr
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George just didn't do what +55 conservatives wanted but they are a tiny minority.
"Brother, you say there is but one way to worship and serve the Great Spirit. If there is but one religion, why do you white people differ so much about it? Why not all agreed, as you can all read the Book?" Sogoyewapha, "Red Jacket" - Senaca

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The subject is that Obama is talking of granting amnesty to 30, 000,000 illegal aliens and you dumb bustards are bashing Georg Bush! No damn wonder we are going down the tubes!
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Beerbelly ya nailed it !
If ya can see it ya can hit it !

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Good one beerbelly. That just goes to show you how easy it is to draw some people off the real subject. Obama is is taking the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" approach and that ain't the way to solve the problem.
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Its about beating the republicans not the illegals silly subject !
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In the past the Republicans have invited them here (cheap labor) and ask them to stay by not getting rid of them.

This didn't all happen in the last 18 months and it won't be fixed until the Republicans get on board and start pushing at the national level to get rid of the illegals. Republicans aren't even lending lip service so far. eddie
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The subject is that Obama is talking of granting amnesty to 30, 000,000 illegal aliens and you dumb bustards are bashing Georg Bush! No damn wonder we are going down the tubes!
                                         Beerbelly

BEERBELLY. YEP, you nailed it. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
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What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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All of congress loves it when a majority of voters operate with blinders on. They, the voters, focus on the distractors.
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Eddie;
  You seem to have a real comprehension problem..the subject is... up to 30 million ILLEGALS being made legal. Yes the Republicans wanted cheap labor but weren't about to give them citizenship to get it. The Democrats seem willing to give them ANYTHING just to get cheap votes.
  Neither one of them is clean & decent,  but undermining the nation by circumventing the spirit of the Constitution is a new low !

  This guy of dubious citizenship has;
 1) Called the U.S. "not a Christian nation" followed by the claim that the U.S. " is one of the largest Muslim nations".
 2) Put us, our children & grandchildren into irretrievable debt for generations.
 3) forced unreasonable "rules of engagement" upon our brave troops.
 4) Aims to censor the airwaves with his "fairness doctrine".
 5) Has shown a desire to have shutdown powers over the internet.
 6) Has sent his secretary of state to the U.N., to discuss removing guns from the hands of Americans..by a global treaty.
 7) Has NATIONALIZED our medical system....following the customary pattern of all would-be dictators.
 8)   "          "              "        banks...             "        "         "            "       ". "       "            "      .
 9)   "          "              "       auto companies    "        "         "            "       "   "      "            "      .
 10) Prefers to got to legal war against the citizens of Arizona, rather than to control the borders.
 11) Faced with the greatest ecological disaster (not his fault) he seems paralyzed..
 12) He immediately refused help from 13 other nations, who offered ships, skimmers, suction ships and myraid other cleanup operations.
 13) Here, 65 days later, he is still frozen in his thinking. Not only has he refused to send in massive cleanup efforts, he has gone to court to stop those in the gulf states who are trying to prevent the disaster from being even more disasterous.
 14) During this unprescedented disaster on our gulf coast, he has spent far more hours on the GOLF COURSE..than on the GULF COAST !
 15) Adding insult to injury, he has tried to stop oil driling activity in the gulf for 6 months, which is tantamount to putting many thousands of gulf coast workers out of a job for years.
 16) When the gulf coast states went to court to save their people's jobs and won the decision..Obama still insists he will force the moratorium, keeping workers out of a job.
 17) He has cow-towed, bowed and scraped to every dictator he meets..while insulting our traditional friends, such as Israel and the UK.
 18) He has forwarded a plan to burden all of us with MORE TAXES..to be GIVEN to failing left-wing newspapers in an effort to keep them afloat.
  19) He has suggested setting up his own quas1-military forces, "equivalent in size to and as well funded as our regular military" ??? ::)

    ...And these few are just for starters...

  Tell us Eddie..can you find a single thing Obama may have "messed up" on ?
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What Republican leaders are standing up screaming to bring attention to this threat? eddiegjr
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That will be the final nail in our coffin.
And it's coming.
You can bet on it.
This November, undoubtedly many democrats are gonna be voted out of office.
Right now, although the democrats want this, they don't have the votes to pass some type of immigration reform.
The only chance they have of holding on to their seat is for the introduction of a new, vastly large group of voters who will vote democrat. 

This is kind of like the Greeks granting citizenship to the Trojans. 
They could not actually defeat us with force, but they don't have to.
All they need to do is outvote us.

Unless something happens, we are royally screwed.
IMHO, that will be the end of The United States of America.
Democrats will then win big in Nov, and bo will be re-elected in 2012.  After that, he will never be replaced, again, unless something happens.
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There is no way it is within the Constitutional powers of the President to do this without Congressional action. But then he's not even a US Citizen much less a natural born one so he is himself an illegal so what he's really wanting to do is grant himself citizenship perhaps.

If he does this and the states and citizens of this nation to not rise up in revolt whether armed or otherwise and put a stop to it then we might as well admit the US is no more and the Constitution is a dead document with no more meaning. It means that citizens of this once great nation no longer have any freedom or liberty.

It was said long ago that the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots from time to time. I fear that time is drawing near.

We should not forget that the FIRST founding document of this nation was/is the Declaration of Independence. It not only gives us the right and legal authority but in fact places on us the obligation to over throw any group of people who try to take from us our freedom and liberty. If we as a nation fail to do that they we deserve what we get and believe me it's coming and soon.

States should immediate seceed from the union if he does this and all patriots should rise up in revolt. Peaceful if that works but if it doesn't then fall back on the Declaration of Independence and do what the founding fathers of this nation did and told us we'd one day again have to do.

All states who have any back bone and who care about freedom and liberty should immediately seceed if this is done and should adopt the US Constitution in addition to their own state Constitution as the governing documents of their new soverign nation states. I believe it encumbent on them to unite to solidify their position but I think that act might have been what Lincoln used in his unholy war of northern aggression long ago. Standing alone politically but united in armed defense should it come to that would I believe be Constitutionally legal and for sure legal under the Declaration of Independence. In the end the winner always gets to say what is and isn't legal.

Unless folks in charge in a bunch of states have the fortitude to stand and call the feds on such a move then this nation is done anyway.


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What Republican leaders are standing up screaming to bring attention to this threat? eddiegjr

   Eddie;
      Although I'm not praising them, most of the Republicans HAVE been voting against every one of his Marxist measures. They have been virtually unanimous in their opposition to the govt takeover of Banks, auto companies, medical care and the extravagant spending of the type he and the Dems have been doing for months now. They have condemmed his decision to attack Arizona and have been urging him to DO SOMETHING about the effects of the oil spill. They are all unanimously opposed to t he stupid, current "rules of engagement" and the queers serving openly and boastfully passed by purely liberal persuasion. Reps did not say this is NOT a Christian nation...and they sure didn't say it is a leading Muslim nation...as Obammy did.
  Anybody here can read just those 19 points and decide which ones were "bi-partisan"  ..very few, because a majority of American voters got "real stupid" last election and the Dems now can ..and ARE robbing us of our Constitutional freedoms.
      

      Still; you are evading the question..please name a few things he HAS NOT "messed up".!
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very simple; 30 million equals 30 million Dem votes and 30 million Obama votes

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Ironglow;

I am wrong , You are right.

How do we fix the country?

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It is nothing more than a power play for votes.. They are no brothers of mine.  >:(
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I am wondering just when the president of the USA became king, dictator or what ever? If he can rule by executive order, what is the point of having a congress? I have missed something here. When did this happen?
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very simple; 30 million equals 30 million Dem votes and 30 million Obama votes
How exactly will these people become registered voters?

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At the swearing in ceremony they will as soon as it is over register them to vote on the spot! The commie democrats will stoop to any thing. The ends justify the means to that scum.
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EDDIE, EDDIE..WHEREFORE ART THOU.....pease answer..;

     ...Pray, tell us a few things Obammy HASN'T messed up !
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Ironglow;

Point per point is pointless. I SAID YOU ARE RIGHT. My openion doesn't matter.

You have identified the dirrect and immediate threat to the country.

What is your solution?

What do you do about it?

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At the swearing in ceremony they will as soon as it is over register them to vote on the spot! The commie democrats will stoop to any thing. The ends justify the means to that scum.
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You are just making this up aren't you? I'm thinking that you have never actually registered to vote.

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I've long said that if the US is conquered it will be from within. Terrorist became citizens, got pilots licenses legally, and then we had ourselves 911. What better coupe than to have one elected president? He bows to our enemies. He apologises for our military and thus spit on the memory of those who sacrified their lives for our freedom and any who served or now serve. He deliberately goes against the wishes of the majority thus defying our own constitution. He slanders the principles this country was founded on. He deliberately trys to destroy what we had in order to build what he alone sees fit. What would you call someone who does that? Traitor, tyrant, and terrorist comes to mind! Even his right to be president is still in question and far from confirmed. Never will I call him my president!

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wreckhog. Many people are registered right in their homes. Don't have to go to any special place to register, Beerbelly is most likely right, and the dumcraps will do it in SPANISH. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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