looks like we will soon have 12 to 30,000,000 brand new American "brothers"..

[nw_hunter]

The subject is that Obama is talking of granting amnesty to 30, 000,000 illegal aliens and you dumb bustards are bashing Georg Bush! No damn wonder we are going down the tubes!
                                         Beerbelly

And some don't see the similarity in the two!!

[powderman]

SPIRITHAWK. Well said and  all true. He ain't my president either. He truly is an obamination to America.  POWDERMAN.  

[Redhawk1]

very simple; 30 million equals 30 million Dem votes and 30 million Obama votes

How exactly will these people become registered voters?

Who was checking, here in Delaware, all they have to do is show a driver license, and another form of proof of residence such as a phone bill etc and they can register.

The problem is no one is checking if they are Illegal or not.

Then if they get amnesty, all the Latino groups such as La Raza will tell them how to register, and whom to vote for.

[billy_56081]

Heck here in Minnesota they don't even need id just a registered voter to vouch for them. Now no one would lie would they?  Wreckhog have you ever voted? Are you sure you are an American?

[lrs]

If bo does this, I say again, it will be the end of The United States of America.
Today's democrats will win big in Novemember.
This is the biggest threat to our country there has ever been, in my opinion.
20 years from now, our country, as you drive from city to city, will be unrecognizable.
If you want to see what our country will look like, just drive through Mexico.

I think this will be a first in the history of civilization.
The greatest country, and I don't just mean militarily, that has ever existed, will have been conquered by one of the weakest and most pathetic country's there has ever been.

Today's democrats, and I'm sorry to say, George Bush and some republicans, are a bunch of criminal traitors.
Their followers are well intended I'm sure, but still a bunch of dreamy eyed, hopelessly misguided, screwballs
They have enjoyed the blessings of liberty throughout their lives, but are quite thrilled to give it up.

Albert Enstein once said he only knew of 2 things that were infinite. One was the universe, the other was human stupidity, and he was not sure about the universe.,

[Dixie Dude]

Rome fell much the same way.  The Germanic tribes were being pushed by the Huns and Slavic peoples of Eastern Europe.  They asked the Romans if they could come across the border for safety.  The Romans let them, and soon it became a flood.  Angles, Saxons, Jutes to Briton, Franks to France, Lombards to Italy.  Bulgars in Bulgaria.  The Eastern Empire lasted until 1453 when the Ottoman Turks conquered it.  The western fell, when the Lombards couldn't get what they wanted, and sacked Rome.  We have let a flood of Hispanics in, and haven't secured our border. Southwestern states may end up with Hispanic majorities without fully understanding English common law that our laws were based on. 

[lrs]

They will vote for whatever they have always known, or they will vote for democratics.

[steg]

I'm a conservative without a party, our country is going to he-- in a handbasket, and as an individual I don't have any idea how to cure it. I know we have our votes but I wonder about that also, I worry about what my Children and Grandchildren have in store for them in life, and we are here with our hands tied....................steg

[teamnelson]

At the swearing in ceremony they will as soon as it is over register them to vote on the spot! The commie democrats will stoop to any thing. The ends justify the means to that scum.
                                    Beerbelly

You are just making this up aren't you? I'm thinking that you have never actually registered to vote.

It takes an act of will to remain that obtuse, wreckhog. Evidently you've never witnessed the process by which someone becomes a citizen in this country. Registering to vote shortly after becoming a citizen is VERY common as it is a right nearly all new citizens are wanting! So it is logical to assume that if the situation described in the article comes to fruition, there will be a mad dash by BOTH PARTIES to quickly get as many of them registered as possible.

[blind ear]

Steg;

You can do as many conservatives without a party have done. Vote liberal and get this country to the breaking point sooner. If candidates don't rise to take a true conservative stance, anarchy is likely to set in and the fight for freedom will resume if there are any "conservatives" with the stomach for it. If not we will pass into oblivion as past empires have. History marches on.

 eddiegjr

[beerbelly]

wreckhog , when I registered to vote in 1960, you had to go down to the county courthouse with your birth certificate and a few other forms of ID and proof of residence. To day Acorn registers them on the street corner! Go to the next swearing in if folks in your area for citizenship. You will find a table set up in the room to register them to vote after they take the oath!
                             Beerbelly

[ironglow]

Ironglow;

Point per point is pointless. I SAID YOU ARE RIGHT. My openion doesn't matter.

You have identified the dirrect and immediate threat to the country.

What is your solution?

What do you do about it?

eddiegjr

   Eddie;
  A good starting point is to forget the two main "parties"; They have partied at our expense for too long. I believe most of us (not all) want honest people in office who are fiscally responsible, not sold out to special interests, uphold the Constitution and seek maximum INDIVIDUAL freedom for all citizens. Keeping in  mind, there is no "perfect candidate", all have warts..some are just larger, infected and ugly warts.
   A great place to start is to look at the T Party candidates, since the T Party is interested in those same things and the T Party is not a political party at all, just a large group of concerned citizens..who are sick and tired of the two major parties. Obviously, in most races we will have only those from either major party to choose from . Keeping in mind there is NO PERFECT candidate, and to check on T Party choices, one should go to a website such as this    http://www.ontheissues.org/default.htm    where they only report on how they voted and where they have stood in the past.  If we all were to decide that regardless what party someone is witrh, we are going to vote for the Constitutionalist candidate, we could do wonders just this fall.

[jimster]

You can do as many conservatives without a party have done. Vote liberal and get this country to the breaking point sooner. If candidates don't rise to take a true conservative stance, anarchy is likely to set in and the fight for freedom will resume if there are any "conservatives" with the stomach for it. If not we will pass into oblivion as past empires have. History marches on.

This is where I'm at too. I'd rather vote for the best conservative, even knowing this helps the "worst party".  Faster it all crashes down to nothing but revolution better off we are, if we lose we lose, if we win we win all the way and start over.  Give the progressives what they want and watch it all crash down to the absolute bottom.  I don't see any way out of this by voting because so many think there has to be a major party.

Let it all fall down, then see who survives.

[SHOOTALL]

You can do as many conservatives without a party have done. Vote liberal and get this country to the breaking point sooner. If candidates don't rise to take a true conservative stance, anarchy is likely to set in and the fight for freedom will resume if there are any "conservatives" with the stomach for it. If not we will pass into oblivion as past empires have. History marches on.

This is where I'm at too. I'd rather vote for the best conservative, even knowing this helps the "worst party".  Faster it all crashes down to nothing but revolution better off we are, if we lose we lose, if we win we win all the way and start over.  Give the progressives what they want and watch it all crash down to the absolute bottom.  I don't see any way out of this by voting because so many think there has to be a major party.

Let it all fall down, then see who survives.

Got to ask , what do ya mean start over ? Do you in your wildest dream think we would be allowed to start over ? America is the last hope for freedom . When we fall its over cause the rest of the world would make sure freedom was stomped out for good.
A wasted vote is just that !

[Redhawk1]

No starting over, we have to defeat the liberal progressives at all costs. No other option.

[jimster]

No starting over, we have to defeat the liberal progressives at all costs. No other option.

And if the republicans are also mild progressives....you have the same end. 

I don't see anyone saying what the options are if the whole lot of them are progressives. You'll hit rock bottom either way, and you'll damn well start over then won't you?

A wasted vote is just that !

That's right...think about that for a minute.  I figure a whole bunch of people have been wasting their votes on the lesser of two evils, and a small handfull are not wasting them. All depends on how you look at it.  In reality, it's usually the "few" who stand alone, do all the fighting, and take the heat.
We got our freedoms from the few, more than likely if we ever have to do that again, it will be the same. All will be depending on the few. That's the way it always is.  I don't see any difference in voting. 
 

[Graybeard]

No starting over, we have to defeat the liberal progressives at all costs. No other option.

Now that's something you and I can agree on. The shame is we're not being given many viable options as these days most folks in both parties are too liberal to suit me. Dunno how it is elsewhere but here in Bama we seldom have any other choice than to vote red or blue. Other parties just don't seem to offer up any other choice here.

[Sourdough]

Here in Alaska, all I did to register to vote was fill out a form at the Fair.  Name, Address, Party Affiliation, Signature, period.  I provided no ID, or anything else.

GB:  We have four very active parties up here.  Republican, Democrates, Alaska Independence Party, and the Liberaterians.  Our legislature is made up of members of all four, off and on.

In the late 90s we elected Governor Walter J Hickel from the Alaska Independence Party.  Yes I, and many others, are members of the Alaska Independence Party.

Too bad the nation can not come up with more parties.

If Obama does try and give them amnisty through Presidential Excetive Order, that will be grounds for Impeachment.

[jjas]

The illegals are here because American companies wanted to hire cheap labor.  They stayed because those jobs are still here.

It's like getting rid of ants, termites or any other pests.  Take away what drew them in and they will leave.

Republicans and Democrats both lack the testicular fortitude to do that. 

[blind ear]

With our major parties, we are falling reguardless of choice, the only variable is how fast. eddiegjr

[Redhawk1]

No starting over, we have to defeat the liberal progressives at all costs. No other option.

Now that's something you and I can agree on. The shame is we're not being given many viable options as these days most folks in both parties are too liberal to suit me. Dunno how it is elsewhere but here in Bama we seldom have any other choice than to vote red or blue. Other parties just don't seem to offer up any other choice here.

Bill, we are working in our State, on the local. We are going to try to get rid of all the Liberal progressives. We have accuses to our local legislators. Once we get our State on the right track then it is a national level. Yes the 2010 elections at the Federal level is important as well. We have our work cut out for us.

[nomosendero]

If a dead Democrat can vote I am sure an illegal can as well.

[SHOOTALL]

If a dead Democrat can vote I am sure an illegal can as well.

Well one won't anymore they are going to bury the one from W Va. !

[lrs]

If bo does not pass an executive order, giving amnesty to illegals, the democrats are gonna get buried in November.
Guess what's gonna happen...

[ironglow]

While the Reps in some cases are starting to listen to the people (the T party); the Dems are defying and attempting to ridicule them.
  Forget "party" and check their record at   http://www.ontheissues.org/default.htm    then vote for the candidate who stands closer to the constitution.

       Throwing up one's hands and refusing to vote is like the guy who throws up his hands and gives up when his car goes into a skid.
    
         That's exactly what the progressives want us to do...

  

  Get educated on the candidates...and vote smart !

[SHOOTALL]

If bo does not pass an executive order, giving amnesty to illegals, the democrats are gonna get buried in November.
Guess what's gonna happen...

Bet they still lose , bet he will also.

[wreckhog]

I always felt that if the Dow hit 10k by 2012, BO would get a second term. It is there. He has to keep it there. If you recall 2008, no one thought this woud be possible. In fact there was a lot of gloom and doom about the next lower support level being 3k. If we are at 3k in 2012, BO is toast. 2 years is LONG time. Could happen. I hope for all our sakes, that the Dow is more like 12K, and unemployment improves by then. Seems to be moving that way. Then all BO has to do is pass a couple of tax breaks (short term) and he will have a lock.

On a side note, BO appears to be the anti Communist. Just ask the 11 Russkies that Dubya did nothing about.

[SHOOTALL]

you are kidding ?

[wreckhog]

If bo does not pass an executive order, giving amnesty to illegals, the democrats are gonna get buried in November.
Guess what's gonna happen...

Bet they still lose , bet he will also.

Depends how you define buried. I think that it will go to a slim Dem majority.

[SHOOTALL]

I don't . I think they hold all the power and have done nothing to put people to work . The have however placed a larger burden on those working which cuts their buying power . In fact they have made it harder for people to go back to wotk.