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You got to be kidding!
« on: June 25, 2010, 07:38:12 AM »
I was surfing the net and ran accross this Wikipedia question. It was such a blatantly stupid question, followed by an even more ignorant statement, that I registered as a member just for the sake of replying!

Question;
 What are deers ( yes he said deers not deer ) killed for? Deer are usually hunted as a sport but rarely they can be eaten after shot.

My reply;
 Why in the world would you supose deer can rarely be eaten after being shot? You eat cows, hogs, chickens, fish, ect., ect. after they are killed. That is unless, and I'm guessing you are, a Vegan. I'm also betting you are anti hunting. In which case all plants are living things and you eat them after they too are killed. Venison is much healthier than any store bought beef or pork. When properly field dressed, cooled and butchered venison, aka deer, are very good eating. Venison is rich in protien, low in cholesterol and doesn't have the chemical aditives of store bought, farm raised, meat. Everyone I know eats what they kill. I'm Cherokee and my people have lived off of deer they shot for centuries. As have all First Nation Peoples as probably have your own ancesters no matter your heritage. Many people I know donate a deer to food pantries. One deer equals aprox. 200 meals for the needy. Hunting helps keep deer numbers in check. Otherwise they over populate their habitat and begin to die of starvation, auto accidents and disease due to the lack of a sufficient number of natural predators. The income derived from license fees goes a long way to providing and upkeeping their habitat. Money derived from firearms sales, amunition, clothing, camping gear, hunting accessories and such puts a large amount into the National income. Not to mention the large number of jobs provided to make and supply such items. You should really know what you speak of before making such a foolish statement

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Re: You got to be kidding!
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2010, 08:44:33 AM »
Bravo!

The problem is that most people who are ignorant of the truth are that way because they refuse to see it!   So I fear your words were wasted... :-\  Pearls before swine and all that...   ;D
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Re: You got to be kidding!
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2010, 09:00:10 AM »
Bravo!

The problem is that most people who are ignorant of the truth are that way because they refuse to see it!   So I fear your words were wasted... :-\  Pearls before swine and all that...   ;D

Welll, I figured as much but it didn't stop me from giving him the facts just the same. Someone else might read it and actually learn something. Besides, I couldn't slap a " little boy peeing on PETA " decal on his forehead so what else could I do?  ;D

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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2010, 09:24:37 AM »
It's amazing to me that in this,"age of information", there seems to be more ignorance than ever before in history. Your story is just one small but good example. Maybe people are taught ignorance.
I liked your reply to a stupid question.
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Re: You got to be kidding!
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2010, 10:03:27 AM »
SPIRITHAWK. Great reply. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
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Re: You got to be kidding!
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2010, 11:20:16 AM »
Deer are usually hunted as a sport but rarely they can be eaten after shot.

...also medium rarely they can be eaten after shot.

...and well donely they can be eaten after shot.


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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2010, 12:24:42 PM »
SpiritHawk:  You mention they referred to a single animal as "Deers".  That reminds me of hearing the old folks talk in the Tennessee hills.  My Grandparents and my Mother use that word to refer to a single deer.  The neighbor used to laugh when my Grandma would call him on the phone and say "I shot one of them old Deers, caught it eating my flors, Ya'll want to come and get it"?   

My Grandma in her later years would go out in the evening and sit in the porch swing.  She always put her .38 under her leg as she swung.  The Whitetail would come out and brouse round the edge of the yard.  When one would come close to her flowers she would shoo it off.  Eventually one would take a bite out of one of the flowers and BANG!  Then she would make the phone call.

As for people thinking you can not eat animals that have been shot, I have run across that many times.  Some people think the lead bullet contaminates the entire animal and makes it toxic.  Unfit for consumption.  Others think that any animal killed outside of a slaughter house will be contaminated by bacteria and viruses and that makes it unfit for consumption.  Oh I've heard so many tales about game meat it would make your head swim.  Really rediculious.
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Re: You got to be kidding!
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2010, 12:40:11 PM »
It's amazing to me that in this,"age of information", there seems to be more ignorance than ever before in history. Your story is just one small but good example. Maybe people are taught ignorance.
I liked your reply to a stupid question.

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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2010, 12:43:04 PM »
They sure would not have liked my grandpa.  He would pay us a nickle each in the spring to bring him robins, which he thought were a delicacy.  He would also eat just about anything.  He and his grew us "surviving" as best possible.  From mudcats to possums, it was all food to him.  A deer that had been shot....high cotton.
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Re: You got to be kidding!
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2010, 01:15:26 PM »
While I will agree that 99% of the stuff you read on the internet is total BS I do not believe that is the reason why many people feel this way.  Notice that most are of a much younger generation?  The resaon is call Walt Disney!!!

Kids grew up thinking Bambi can really talk and we bad hunters are evil.  Look at most of the Disney stuff.  Every animal can talk, love and act just like people.  These kids really think these animals live just like on Disney!!!
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Re: You got to be kidding!
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2010, 01:36:56 PM »
It's amazing to me that in this,"age of information", there seems to be more ignorance than ever before in history. Your story is just one small but good example. Maybe people are taught ignorance.
I liked your reply to a stupid question.

The internet is responsible for the spread of more lies and ignorance than any other medium in the history of mankind. Thanks Al Gore. ;)
I thought it was CBS evening news that was fore most, Followed by the NY Times and if any one is still watching MSNBC.
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Re: You got to be kidding!
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2010, 09:19:37 PM »
It's amazing to me that in this,"age of information", there seems to be more ignorance than ever before in history. Your story is just one small but good example. Maybe people are taught ignorance.
I liked your reply to a stupid question.

The internet is responsible for the spread of more lies and ignorance than any other medium in the history of mankind. Thanks Al Gore. ;)



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Re: You got to be kidding!
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2010, 11:28:55 PM »
ted brothers was an old friend .. he was over 3 counties of game wardens..
 his pet peeve was the movie bambi..he believed it mislead people an made his job a lot harder..
 all you had to do was mention the movie and ,,you better be ready for him to speak his mind on the subject.. :) .. i think he now resides in eastern n.c.
 deer like all wildlife have to be managed..good management is imo, why we have most of the
species making a real comeback,from the depression yrs..
 i myself am not a sportshunter ..i won t shoot it unless me or someone is going to eat it..
 the exception being predators [coyote etc] that want to prey on my few animals..if they represent a danger to my dogs,cats or other useful animals around my place .. ill hunt them relentlessly until the problem is solved..now they can either move on or die..its thier choice..
 i ll probably end up being hunted myself if the country continuies on its present course..slim

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« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2010, 06:43:38 AM »
While I will agree that 99% of the stuff you read on the internet is total BS I do not believe that is the reason why many people feel this way.  Notice that most are of a much younger generation?  The resaon is call Walt Disney!!!

Kids grew up thinking Bambi can really talk and we bad hunters are evil.  Look at most of the Disney stuff.  Every animal can talk, love and act just like people.  These kids really think these animals live just like on Disney!!!

My children watch a lot of the Disney movies, but won't hesitate to eat some good Deer tenderloin or point out to their friends that bacon and pork chops are dead pigs and hamburgers are dead cows!  It is more than the movies or the Internet...it is the PARENTS!  With ONLY the tv or the net for information then children only learn what THEY want them to learn.  TEACH your children what YOU think is important and then they have enough information to make solid decisions and formulate some common sense when it comes to natural matters.
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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2010, 09:03:07 AM »
HEH. Every time we had ham I told the kids it was old dead pig butt, but they ate it anyway. POWDERMAN.  :D :D
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Re: You got to be kidding!
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2010, 09:12:06 AM »
My grand daughter was at the house one day when I was on a squirrel erradication mission.  The first one that dropped she ran and got it, and asked if she could have it.  I asked "what for".  She said she wanted to make meat out of it........... ;D
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« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2010, 11:00:04 AM »
I may have been too harsh in my first post about ingnorance abounding in an information age. Much of what we learn in life has to do with the environment we grow up in and live in. There is alot of stuff I don't know about living in the big city and alot they don't know about living elsewhere. Media doesn't help as others have mentioned.
Heather's post about parents influence reminded me of a time I was cruising Yellowstone during tourist season. We were in the familiar traffic jam on the road whenever wildlife is near the road. Moving slowly thru the traffic I saw two young boys off the side of the road walking toward some cow/calf Buffalo close to the road. The older boy was trying to get a picture of his little brother standing next to a calf. The calf started running and the little guy started to chase it while his brother was coaxing him on trying to get a picture of them in the same shot. God must have been looking over them or they might have got a picture of the little guy being stomped by an eighteen hundred pound mama cow. I didn't see the parents anywhere. There was lots of people on the side of the road and I was watching the boys and afraid for them since they weren't for themselves.
If I had to move to a big city I might fall prey to the predators they have there. Or just walk around lost in a strange environment. Get hit by a bus or something.
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« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2010, 06:09:05 AM »
The media presents stuped rangeing from "that's dumb" all the way to "how have they survived ?!!!!!" because that is what a majority of viewers want to see. Just look at the overall programs offered. That is a great representation of the public mentality arrived at through rateings. Not just sickening, it is scarey? eddiegjr
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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2010, 06:46:12 AM »
It's a shame that some people think the way they do but what the heck.
Makes more game for us to eat!  ;)



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« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2010, 07:12:59 AM »
The information age is over, this is the misinformation age.  You could, at one time, do an internet search on a subject and get reasonable answers to evaluate and ponder.  Now most of the answers are based on someone's opinion, and not even remotely based in fact.  I'm afraid that, as a society, we have crossed the line and "you can correct ignorance with teaching, but there's just no cure for stupid".  I don't know how to fight things like:  Guns are bad!!  The Constitution is an outdated document!! and now I can't even eat "deers" that have been shot!!  I really fear for our future.
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« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2010, 09:07:03 AM »
Guys keep in mind some years back a quiz was given to some high school kids in NY city . One question was what are hambergers made from , # 1 ansewer HAM . These folks were raised on chicken nuggets and such , and lets face it if they knew what part of a chicken looked like a nugget they wouldn't eat it .
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« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2010, 09:32:31 AM »
Guys keep in mind some years back a quiz was given to some high school kids in NY city . One question was what are hambergers made from , # 1 ansewer HAM . These folks were raised on chicken nuggets and such , and lets face it if they knew what part of a chicken looked like a nugget they wouldn't eat it .

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« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2010, 09:47:35 AM »
      No matter how hard you try to teach your kids the right way, the government schools have them eight hours a day to teach them different! I have a set of twin niece's. they took some subjects different from each other. One had a teacher that brain washed one of them into being a vegetarian and that eating meat is bad!
  Her parents went to the school and raised hell, to no avail of course. The girl has always been sickly, her sister that that will eat any kind of meat put in front of her is healthy as a horse
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« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2010, 01:57:41 PM »
Guys keep in mind some years back a quiz was given to some high school kids in NY city . One question was what are hambergers made from , # 1 ansewer HAM . These folks were raised on chicken nuggets and such , and lets face it if they knew what part of a chicken looked like a nugget they wouldn't eat it .

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« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2010, 01:58:56 PM »
      No matter how hard you try to teach your kids the right way, the government schools have them eight hours a day to teach them different!

Not my kids!  They get their education right here at home. I have found it is much easier to teach them than it is to unteach what they would learn in school!

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« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2010, 02:13:54 PM »
A lot of people get their information from wikipedia. It is a very liberal site. I try to avoid it. It doesnt suprise me that someone would think that.

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« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2010, 04:46:04 AM »
Good for you Heather! My two werenot home schooled ,but went to privet school where we could keep up with what they were being taught.
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« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2010, 08:03:38 AM »
      No matter how hard you try to teach your kids the right way, the government schools have them eight hours a day to teach them different!

Not my kids!  They get their education right here at home. I have found it is much easier to teach them than it is to unteach what they would learn in school!

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« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2010, 08:09:20 AM »
I started in public school , spent high school in a private school then a private college and then a state college. I have also worked in many schools over the years . What I see is a teacher if they wish to keep a job in this area has to lock step with what the libs dictate . Back in the 70's a few teachers were passing along the idea that if educators and other educated people run the govt. we would advance faster . They expressed that most religious people slowed advancement down as did most voters . Seems they are having their day now ?
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« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2010, 06:35:18 AM »
The problem with public schools is not the teachers or the teaching.  It's the other kids!!!
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