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Eyes wide shut?
« on: July 01, 2010, 10:02:53 AM »
NRA Now Leans Toward Endorsing Harry Reid

Posted by Erick Erickson (Profile)

Thursday, July 1st at 8:00AM EDT

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Multiple sources tell me the National Rifle Association is planning to endorse liberal Harry Reid against pro-gun champion Sharron Angle.

Two weeks ago, I told you about the carveout the NRA received in exchange for their support for the DISCLOSE ACT deal.

Then this week, RedState broke the story of the “gag order” the NRA issued to members of its Board on the Kagan nomination.

Now, I’m getting credible reports that the NRA is leaning toward endorsing Harry Reid, even though the NRA is finally saying it will score a vote on Kagan — something that was not a sure thing.

Why would they do this? Why would they go out of their way to protect a Senator who has demonstrated a repeated hostility to the Second Amendment in his votes and his leadership?

Well, I thought perhaps the NRA carveout in the DISCLOSE Act might be the answer. But, there is more. It turns out, Reid secured a $61 million earmark for a gun range in Clark County, Nevada.

NRA members were recently treated to a three-page spread in the American Rifleman about a visit to Nevada by Wayne LaPierre and Chris Cox to “thank” Reid for the earmark. The article even includes a cliché picture of Reid cutting a ribbon with a gigantic pair of scissors. (Every good porker has his own giant pair of gold earmark scissors.) More here.

Here is a video of the event from Reid’s youtube site.

At 3:25, you can hear LaPierre touting Reid’s record on guns saying, “I also want to thank you, Senator, for your support every day for the Second Amendment and for the rights of American gun owners. “

The American Rifleman article also commends Reid’s Second Amendment record noting, “His dedication to this project is just one of the ways Sen. Reid has demonstrated his support for gun owners and the Second Amendment.”

Well, that’s all very nice. What politician representing a pro-gun red state wouldn’t want Wayne LaPierre to come out for a personal photo op at their earmark ribbon cutting.

But, here is the problem. Reid has not supported the Second Amendment “every day.” Or ever.

Reid has a lifetime rating of “F” from Gun Owners of America (who Ron Paul once called “the only no-compromise gun lobby in Washington”). GOA is actively supporting the 100% pro-gun Republican nominee, Sharron Angle, in her campaign to unseat Harry Reid.

But if you don’t believe GOA, see for yourself below the fold. Then call (800) 392-VOTE (8683) before it is too late and make the NRA knows they’d be betraying second amendment voters by endorsing Harry Reid.

Below are just a few of the votes that demonstrate Reid’s longstanding hostility to guns and the Second Amendment. Not included in this list is the long list of consistent and active support for anti-gun nominees to the Federal Judiciary and to high level cabinet posts. The reason I did not include anti-gun nominees is because he supported every last one of them.

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Re: Eyes wide shut?
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2010, 10:38:55 AM »
Reid is as pro gun as a mainstream politician comes. And the NRA are morons. Good fit I say.

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Re: Eyes wide shut?
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2010, 02:48:56 PM »
There is something in the water in DC.  Everyone and every group that goes there loses their mind..........
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Re: Eyes wide shut?
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2010, 05:57:09 PM »
i saw this firsthand years ago, only the names were different and not as well known.  the nra endorsed the liberal scumbag ron kind over a very pro gun republican canidate.    this is no surprise to me.   the nra are a bunch of slimey bass turds. 
   where is redhawk on this one?  red?  red? 

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Re: Eyes wide shut?
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2010, 03:19:19 AM »
First off you have to understand the NRA is a single issue group. I know some find that difficult because they can't get past there hatred of the NRA.

The NRA does not endorse Harry Reed, what the NRA does is give candidate and incumbents running for office a grade on how they have voted on second amendment issues.

As of yet, the NRA has not released any ratings for any one.

Sorry to tell everyone, but Harry Reed has been on the side of the second amendment, and his voting record shows it. Now on the same token, the NRA does not think it's members are dumb, and don't know that Harry Reed is a Liberal Progressive that is part of the Obama Kingdom.

As for the gag order, that is totally untrue. The NRA has released a letter stating so, also the NRA is opposing the Kegan nomination.

myronman3 , why do you expect me to keep informing you of stuff, are you to ignorant to find the information on your own. Do you need to be spoon fed all your information? Even if I show you proof or anything pro-NRA you would not believe it. So why should I keep trying to educate people incapable of comprehending?
I guess you also believe everything you read.

Keep bashing the NRA, you are going a great job supporting the Liberal agenda. Stupid is as stupid does..
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Re: Eyes wide shut?
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2010, 04:03:38 AM »
All I can say is, I am smart enough to know I would not vote for Harry Reed, even if he is a friend of the NRA. I look at more than just the second Amendment.

I hope others would be smart enough to do so as well... But look what the voters elected last time... Talk about Eyes wide shut, it was not the NRA that elected them.. :P
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Re: Eyes wide shut?
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2010, 04:22:30 AM »
All I can say is, I am smart enough to know I would not vote for Harry Reed, even if he is a friend of the NRA. I look at more than just the second Amendment.

I hope others would be smart enough to do so as well... But look what the voters elected last time... Talk about Eyes wide shut, it was not the NRA that elected them.. :P



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Re: Eyes wide shut?
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2010, 04:24:09 AM »
Have there been any pro 2A presidents in our lifetimes? Since 2A was even an issue (which is only for 40 years approximately).

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Re: Eyes wide shut?
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2010, 09:36:21 AM »
Have there been any pro 2A presidents in our lifetimes? Since 2A was even an issue (which is only for 40 years approximately).

Do you really have to ask...
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Re: Eyes wide shut?
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2010, 09:37:17 AM »
All I can say is, I am smart enough to know I would not vote for Harry Reed, even if he is a friend of the NRA. I look at more than just the second Amendment.

I hope others would be smart enough to do so as well... But look what the voters elected last time... Talk about Eyes wide shut, it was not the NRA that elected them.. :P



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Re: Eyes wide shut?
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2010, 09:46:05 AM »
NRA. I'm just glad I didn't get a lifetime membership...

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Re: Eyes wide shut?
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2010, 02:42:52 PM »
Redhawk1 may very well be right on the NRA and gag order that was published.
I posted that and may have to eat crow. If it is wrong I am sorry. I try to get it right but may have failed here.
In the turbulent times we are in, as a nation, we cannot afford to vote for those that spent a life time making a living from us and forceing  us into slavery like hairy reed.
No group or person should in any way endorse this clown. That would be certain destruction of the 2ND AMENDMENT. 

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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2010, 12:10:32 AM »
Doesn't make any sense to fall in with Reid unless your a liberal/progressive thinker, (except for gun ownership). Angle has gun group endorsements and she is a Tea Party approved conservative. So is the NRA liberal/progressive or did they get bought?
I've heard some wierd stuff about Angle but nothing as bad as what I know for a fact about Reid.
I'd vote for my horse before I would vote for that racist, socialist bastard !!

I don't know as Dems care so much about gun laws as they used to. I think they are working on a plan to get UN/international help in banning guns. International law instead of National. That way they get UN or international help enforcing the bans.
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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2010, 02:52:26 AM »
Doesn't make any sense to fall in with Reid unless your a liberal/progressive thinker, (except for gun ownership). Angle has gun group endorsements and she is a Tea Party approved conservative. So is the NRA liberal/progressive or did they get bought?
I've heard some wierd stuff about Angle but nothing as bad as what I know for a fact about Reid.
I'd vote for my horse before I would vote for that racist, socialist bastard !!

I don't know as Dems care so much about gun laws as they used to. I think they are working on a plan to get UN/international help in banning guns. International law instead of National. That way they get UN or international help enforcing the bans.
Or maybe my tin foil hat is on too tight.    ::)

As of right now, the NRA has not given anyone a rating, that will be done after the primaries. Harry Reed is not someone I would vote for if I lived in Nevada. Sharon Angle is the person I would vote for because of her platform on the Constitution. Just a side note, I have contributed to the Angle campaign. Even if she is not in my State, I felt she needed the support, and I would love to see Harry Reed voted out in November.
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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2010, 02:58:33 AM »
NRA-PVF Endorsement Policy
 
Friday, July 02, 2010
 
We are rapidly approaching the time when NRA’s Political Action Committee the NRA Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF) will begin issuing endorsements in elections across the country. 

As always in an election year, we receive many calls and e-mails inquiring about our endorsement policy in general, and specific races in particular.  That trend has certainly held up this year, as we have received many inquiries about high profile races, such as the Nevada Senate race involving Senator Harry Reid.  For the record, NRA-PVF has not yet announced any ratings or endorsements in this race.

With few exceptions, and for several reasons, we generally do not announce ratings or endorsements until closer to the elections. There are still votes to be graded and other information to be evaluated prior to issuing an accurate grade as Election Day nears.

As in every election year, some of these endorsements prompt questions concerning the criteria NRA-PVF uses in making these decisions. Following is a brief explanation of that policy.

The NRA-PVF is non-partisan in issuing its candidate grades and endorsements. We do not base our decisions on a candidate’s party affiliation, but rather on his or her record on Second Amendment issues. The NRA is a single-issue organization. The only issues on which we evaluate candidates seeking elected office are gun-related issues. While there are many issues a candidate must address with voters, and while voters evaluate a number of non-gun-related issues in factoring which candidate they will support or oppose, NRA-PVF’s sole criteria in issuing grades and endorsements is a candidate’s position on gun-related issues.

With four million NRA members and 80 million gun owners in the country, our constituency is diverse in its views on multiple issues of our day. However, we are all united in our support of the Second Amendment and our opposition to the notion that passing more laws that negatively impact law-abiding gun owners will reduce crime. For us to divide that otherwise united base of support on non-firearm-related issues would be strategically foolish.

NRA has an incumbent-friendly policy that dictates our support for pro-gun incumbents seeking reelection. It is important that we stand with our friends who stand with us in Congress or the state legislature through their actions. Of course, should a pro-gun challenger win his election, and stay true to support for our gun rights, then he will be the beneficiary of this policy when seeking re-election.

For candidates who are not incumbents or who have not previously held elective office and thus lack voting records, we review answers to NRA’s candidate questionnaires, their campaign literature and relevant statements, and rely on intelligence from NRA members and gun owners in the field.

All of this information is then reviewed and a grade of "A" to "F" is issued. Endorsements are not given in every race. Our endorsement is not given lightly; it is something that is reserved for those candidates who meet certain criteria and something that must be earned.

Sometimes we receive inquiries concerning judicial races. NRA-PVF generally does not issue endorsements in judicial elections. In the rare circumstances where NRA-PVF makes endorsements in state judicial races, there are many complexities that must be taken into account, including the following:

·        Judges, unlike legislators, often do not have voting records. Therefore, in evaluating judicial candidates, NRA-PVF can only make evaluations based upon past legal opinions and public statements involving firearm-related issues;

·        Individual states implement different codes of judicial conduct, and have often passed statutes limiting judicial candidates from announcing their views on issues or controversies that may come before the court, and;

·        These codes or statutes may prevent judicial candidates from filling out NRA-PVF candidate questionnaires. Even if a candidate could fill out a questionnaire, and then got elected to the bench, the questionnaire answers might later force the judge to recuse him- or herself from a firearm-related case.

We certainly welcome input and information from our members on judicial candidates. It is important to remember, however, that NRA-PVF’s involvement in judicial races remains the exception and not the rule.

For a list of candidate grades and endorsements for your state, please refer to your November NRA magazines, or visit www.NRAPVF.org.
 
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