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OLD 3" Charter Arms Bulldog
« on: July 04, 2010, 12:02:01 PM »
 Veral,

 I'll be picking up a old CA Bulldog as soon as the "all good" comes back. I was wanting pick your brain on profile, weight, diameter ( havent slugged it yet ) etc. advice you may have for this particular revolver.
 I know I will end up trying some of the heavier lead I already have in stock  ( I didnt reload when I had my first 44 CA in in 01-02) when the trimmer comes in.

 But I'm figuring this is a bridge you have already crossed sometime in your life and would like any information you could lend me on the subject.


  Thank you.

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Re: OLD 3" Charter Arms Bulldog
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2010, 01:49:27 PM »
  I was crossing that bridge but the gun got stolen before I had the time to work up the perfect load.

  Those guns have several things going for them.  Extremely light weight, very small and yet strong.  I did quite a bit of work on the one I had to make it work smoothly, and radiused the corners of the trigger guard, back of frame and hammer where they hit my hand during recoil.  That stopped the bleeding hand after several shots when I shot heavy loads.  The heavy load was a 280 gr WFN leaving the muzzle at 1100 fps.  I carried the gun with that load, in my pocket, in bear country around my place here in ID.  Pocket is the key word here, mainly because the chainsaw didn't throw dirt on it like a holster gun.

  I told that only to say the gun is tough as nails.  I worked up that load and loaded up a bunch of rounds, but actually hated the recoil, but didn't have time to make up a proper load for it.

  To really enjoy the gun and make it everyday useful, a 240 gr bullet loaded to a velocity that prints to the sights is the most pleasant, and will be somewhere around 800 fps.  I intended to use a 250 or 260 gr loaded to 900 fps +-, whichever weight made it print to the sights at 30 yards with a speed close to 900 fps.

  Best bullet is the WFN.  I tried 200 and 230 gr which didn't recoil enough to bring poi up to the sights.  Did most of my experimenting with it in AZ where jackrabbits were the primary target, but swithed to the 280 gr heavy load after finding a 30 inch diameter cedar tree on my place which had been peeled by a bear from the ground up to almost 12 feet.  Being new here at the time I 'felt a need' for good power.  To be more specific about what I mean when I say, felt a need.  The hair on the back of my neck stood up when I saw that tree down by the roaring creek canyon, with heavy brush and trees, steep canyon walls on both sides and the creek roar so loud it there was no hope of hearing a bear if he was stomping his foot on a hollow log!  I now believe he was watching me from fairly close, because one can normally feel it when a bear is staring at him.  I didn't realize that at the time, but it has to be a spirit thing.  If you feel it you can often look around carefully and see him looking at you.

  Something I learned from that 3 inch gun and a small frame three inch S&W 38 which I bought for my wife was that performance is a lot more than halfway up to a 4 inch tube when compared to a 2 inch, yet it fits in the pocket almost as snugly.  By performance I mean power, pointability, and accuracy with the sights at fairly long ranges.
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Re: OLD 3" Charter Arms Bulldog
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2010, 02:25:18 PM »
Veral is spot on...... as always!
I use an older Charter Arms Target Bulldog, more than any other center fire gun I own. Being the "target" model, it has adjustable sights and a 4" barrel but still weighs only 19 oz. I shoot my own swaged bullets, that weigh in at about 265 grains at around 1000 fps, it hits what needs hittin' and kills what needs killin' and you really don't notice you're wearing it until you need it! It, along with my 500 Linebaugh are the only two guns you can notice recoil increasing as it gets closer to empty, not a big deal because neither have ever been fired more than once with out a chance to reload, most things lose all their fight, when hit right with .430+ caliber bullets. Regards, Steve

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Re: OLD 3" Charter Arms Bulldog
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2010, 12:59:00 PM »
You boys are speaking my language!  I have the old model Bulldog 3" and am interested in loading up some
WFN's 265's.  I have the mold, got it for my Blackhawk in .44 Special and I want to load some I can use in both guns.  I'm having trouble finding load data that I feel comfortable using in the "little" gun. Any suggestions?  Right now I'm shooting 7.5gr of Unique under some 240gr cast swc's... ok to piddle with, but I love the WFN's and want to get to shooting them.
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Re: OLD 3" Charter Arms Bulldog
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2010, 06:39:31 PM »
  If you want to get more snap out of the little gun, use a slower powder than Unique, to keep pressures down, and quit adding powder when your hand begins to hurt from recoil.  Accurate 9 is close to perfect as it gets.  I'd stick with a load around 900 to 1000 fps, personally, as that's enough to get the job done even if it's a pretty tough one, yet recoil isn't so painful that it will cause flinching.
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Re: OLD 3" Charter Arms Bulldog
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2010, 10:29:27 AM »
Thanks Veral!  I've got some #9 on hand.  I'll try to find me a starting load and do some "research" this weekend.
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