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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2010, 12:43:16 PM »
If I were to buy a rifle in a belted magnum cartridge, it would be the 338 Winchester Magnum unless a great deal on a 340 Weatherby Magnum surfaced.  If you really wanted a 30 caliber belted magnum cartridge, I would look for a 30-338 Winchester Magnum better known as the 308 Norma Magnum.  This cartridge nips the heels of the 300 Winchester Magnum velocity, but using less powder.  One can hand load it using .264 Winchester Magnum, 7mm Remington Magnum, 338 Winchester Magnum or even the 458 Winchester Magnum brass, yes the later will require much more case forming.

Bullets availability is great in 338 caliber, and yes they can be used on varmint.  If you are harvesting them for pelts then, some heavy bullets punch right through and leave smaller holes to sew up then faster lighter 30 caliber bullets.

I currently don’t have any belted magnum cartridge, because my 338-06 A-Square fits the bill for any North American game to include the largest bears.  I don’t use it on varmint, but I would if I felt the need.

yooper77
308 norma is what Winchester was going to bring out ut Norma beat them at thier own game.
That is why 300 Win has a short neck.  They moved the shoulder forward so it was different.
I agree there is nothing that the 300's can do that the 338 can not.
I have a 338 but still want a 300H&H.

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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2010, 01:00:55 PM »
yooper 77.......your a man of uncommon good sense...at least when it comes to the .338-06!  Talk about a truly great cartridge for North America!  

  I've got a several yr old M-70, one of the Sporter models with the classic stock, real straight, no cheekpiece, etc.  Added a 24" Lilja chambered in .338-06 , fixed express sights regulated for 250's at 50 yds, bbl band swivel, made sure it feeds 110%, and topped it with Talleys and a 2.5-8X Leupold.

  I had talked with Elmer Keith many years back about his old .338 OKH basically the same ctg. Wish I would have had ".338 OKH "  engraved on my bbl as an homage to Elmer.

  Used mine in RSA a dozen yrs back onplains game  , then came home and shot a great old bull at 300+ during elk season. ALL one shot kills with zero drama.

  We need to  start a .338-06 thread sometime.

FN in MT

 

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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2010, 01:08:19 PM »
All of this soul searching, brain picking, search and research is geared to help me choose a good "all purpose" [varmint to elk + ] rifle, probably a Ruger #1 Standard.

 Your delusional  if you think ONE rifle is going to work for EVERYTHING. A silly concept.  ;D

  A guy needs at least three or four good rifles to do things right.

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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2010, 01:24:02 PM »
                         :)
Thank you.
I really appreciate the advice.
It really helps to find out what everyone else likes, and is using, and why.

Ruger shows the Ruger #1 in the Medium Sporter [1S] in
300 H&H and also, .338 RCM and .375 Ruger.

http://www.ruger.com/products/no1MediumSporter/models.html

Now that I am "almost retired", I might get a chance to go back to Colorado, on a semi regular basis.      ;D
Never been to Alaska, but that might be possible some day.                  8)

If not, there really isn't any good reason for me to get anything more than
the Ruger #1 in the Standard Sporter [1B] which is available in
30-06 and 300 Win mag               ::)
or ....
the K1B [laminated stock with stainless steel barrel and action] which I really like;
... but is available only in
270 Win, or 300 Win mag.

 http://www.ruger.com/products/no1Standard/models.html

Help,  please !
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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #34 on: July 29, 2010, 04:43:20 PM »
                         :)
Thank you.
I really appreciate the advice.
It really helps to find out what everyone else likes, and is using, and why.

Ruger shows the Ruger #1 in the Medium Sporter [1S] in
300 H&H and also, .338 RCM and .375 Ruger.

http://www.ruger.com/products/no1MediumSporter/models.html

Now that I am "almost retired", I might get a chance to go back to Colorado, on a semi regular basis.      ;D
Never been to Alaska, but that might be possible some day.                  8)

If not, there really isn't any good reason for me to get anything more than
the Ruger #1 in the Standard Sporter [1B] which is available in
30-06 and 300 Win mag               ::)
or ....
the K1B [laminated stock with stainless steel barrel and action] which I really like;
... but is available only in
270 Win, or 300 Win mag.

 http://www.ruger.com/products/no1Standard/models.html

Help,  please !


Then just get the 300WM and be done with it.
You have mentioned before that you were not sure if you would reload again, if that's true you sure don't want a 300H&H
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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #35 on: July 29, 2010, 05:32:11 PM »

From this thread and your other one on the 300 Win Mag it sounds to me like your really not sure if you want anything larger than a 30-06. You want loads that will duplicate the lighter 30-06 loads,and you don't reload. All of the larger cartridges is going to kick more and cost more to shoot,plus your not really going to find the real light factory loadings of them.

To me one of the main reasons to go with a magnum of any caliber belted or not is because it will shoot heavier bullets faster and hand loaded lighter bullets faster than the standard cartridges.The trade offs is of course having to reload to get it and the larger amount of recoil..because there is no free lunch when it comes to this. I have seen plenty of 150 grain factory loads for the 300 Win Mag available but nothing lighter., but certainly wouldn't use most of the cheaper cup&core bullets for much..they just won't hold together very well..

So..if you want one of these magnums..and you want light factory loads for it..then like Nomosendero said..get the 300...if not..just stay with the o6'..

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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2010, 04:23:06 AM »
             :)
I really appreciate all the great help and advice.

It didn't seem that bad when I started out.
I just wanted the 30-06 Ruger #1 in the Standard Sporter [1B] which is available in 30-06 and 300 Win mag                :)

Things got really complicated when I saw the K1B [laminated stock with stainless steel barrel and action] which I really like;
... but is available only in 270 Win, or 300 Win mag.

Seems like that would be great for a serious hunting rifle.   8)
We never had anything like that when I was dragging nice hunting rifles around many years ago ...
scratching and gouging soft wood and blued steel over fence rows, deadfall, barbed wire fence lines, nasty rocks and boulders ...through snow, rain, and mud.    :(

Please excuse me for being in "sticker shock" over all of this.
I have been "out of the loop" for a long time, and just haven't kept up with prices.
              ???                                                                                ::)
At the price of Ruger #1s, this rifle is going to have to be a "do everything" gun.
If I won the lotto, I could find some very good reasons for a half dozen ... or more of these jewels.

I just wish that I could afford ... just a few.                            ;D                       8)l
At least a K1B in both 270 Win and 300 Win mag.      :-*     :)          :-*     :)

By the time you get out the door with a scope and taxes,         ???
these dog - gone smoke poles will set you back a good $2,000.000 ... each.         :o                :o             ::)

OK, OK, ... I'm going to date myself and sputter "That is more than I paid for my first brand new car !"   :o          ::)
Actually, that is also more than what my folks paid for the house that I grew up in; and we had over an acre with it!

To make things even worse, now that I have seen the prices on and limited availability of ammo, it sure looks like I will get back into reloading; which will surely end up costing another $1,000.00 + +       :o                :-\

It's enough to make a fella take up golf ... and serious drinking.   :o         ::)
 
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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2010, 09:39:14 PM »
yooper 77.......your a man of uncommon good sense...at least when it comes to the .338-06!  Talk about a truly great cartridge for North America! 

  I've got a several yr old M-70, one of the Sporter models with the classic stock, real straight, no cheekpiece, etc.  Added a 24" Lilja chambered in .338-06 , fixed express sights regulated for 250's at 50 yds, bbl band swivel, made sure it feeds 110%, and topped it with Talleys and a 2.5-8X Leupold.

  I had talked with Elmer Keith many years back about his old .338 OKH basically the same ctg. Wish I would have had ".338 OKH "  engraved on my bbl as an homage to Elmer.

  Used mine in RSA a dozen yrs back onplains game  , then came home and shot a great old bull at 300+ during elk season. ALL one shot kills with zero drama.

  We need to  start a .338-06 thread sometime.

FN in MT

 

Thank you FN in MT

My 338-06 is a Weatherby Mark V Ultra Lightweight.  I topped with rifle off with a Leupold VX-III 3.5-10x40 mm scope.  I have loaded IMR-4320 with 200 grain Winchester/Nosler Combined Technology Ballistic Tip bullets with 30-06 Springfield brass and WLR primers.  I also have some 210, 225 & 250 grain Nosler Partitions, 225 grain Speer and Hornady, and 180 grain Nosler Accu-bonds and Ballistic Tips.  I will try other powders too IMR-4064, IMR-4350, and H4895. This is truly my Thor's Hammer using my simple to make and inexpensive ammo for any game in North America.

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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2010, 03:39:51 AM »

  I had talked with Elmer Keith many years back about his old .338 OKH basically the same ctg. Wish I would have had ".338 OKH "  engraved on my bbl as an homage to Elmer.

FN in MT

  Was not Keiths cartridge a .333 OKH?  The .338" would not be Keiths idea, so why change the cartridge name to .338 OKH?  Yes the .338-06 is similar, but it's not the same.

  I killed my first big game animal with a .338-06 in the 70's, and have been using one ever since, so i'm not against the .338-06.

  DM

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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2010, 01:49:45 PM »

From this thread and your other one on the 300 Win Mag it sounds to me like your really not sure if you want anything larger than a 30-06. You want loads that will duplicate the lighter 30-06 loads,and you don't reload. All of the larger cartridges is going to kick more and cost more to shoot,plus your not really going to find the real light factory loadings of them.

To me one of the main reasons to go with a magnum of any caliber belted or not is because it will shoot heavier bullets faster and hand loaded lighter bullets faster than the standard cartridges.The trade offs is of course having to reload to get it and the larger amount of recoil..because there is no free lunch when it comes to this. I have seen plenty of 150 grain factory loads for the 300 Win Mag available but nothing lighter., but certainly wouldn't use most of the cheaper cup&core bullets for much..they just won't hold together very well..

So..if you want one of these magnums..and you want light factory loads for it..then like Nomosendero said..get the 300...if not..just stay with the o6'..

Mac


Thank you all !

I'm yelling "Uncle".                     

Yes, if you absolutely, positively, must limit to 1 [one]  gun, the 30-06 is a great choice.     

On the other hand, ... if you eat beans and rice ... for a while ...                     
you can get a pair of Ruger #1s !                 

Which will definitely keep the freezer filled with all manner of good meat to go with the beans and rice.     

Am starting up a couple of [big] piggy banks and
... making plans to get back into reloading.

In the meantime, I will keep drooling over Ruger #1s; ...  in 243 Win, 25-06, 270 Win, 30-06, 300 Win mag.
Just two [2], just two [2], just two [2] ;
270 Win & 300 Win mag,
270 Win & 30-06,
25-06 & 30-06,
243 Win & 30-06,
? ? ? .

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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2010, 03:02:46 PM »
Guns & Ammo has a pretty big article on the .300H&H this month.
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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #41 on: August 03, 2010, 03:38:21 PM »
 :D great idea for two rifles..while the old 06 has a lot going for it....My pick would be the .25-06 and .300...the 25 will do fine for some off season varmiting like chucks or coyotes......and the .300 would hand game bigger than deer and long shots at all big game..of course, I enjoy long distance shooting...for me getting one chuck or coyote  or deer at 400 is more of a thrill than 5 at 50 yards...but just my preference.......

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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2010, 03:58:01 PM »
The .30-06 does it all.
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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2010, 04:36:23 PM »
 ;D For distance, the 25-06  and 300 far out class the old 06....for general woods hunting it is fine with shots less than 350, but if all I had to hunt with was my old o6, I think I would have quit long ago.....

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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2010, 04:41:17 PM »
If I didn't have a .30-06 I'd buy one.  It does it all even at distance (if you can shoot.)  If you can't it doesn't really matter.
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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2010, 04:21:27 AM »
 :D I have 2 06's and I can shoot both, but for distance any rifleman knows the .300 and 25-06 are better for long range...if you only hunt short range country, and whitetails, a 30-30 is enough....

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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #46 on: August 04, 2010, 08:15:53 AM »
Any rifleman knows the .30-06 with a 180 grain boattail is an amazing cartridge.  It's little brothers are ok for large varmints.  I have no use for any of the .300s except the H&H.
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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2010, 09:42:54 AM »
 ;D your idea of amazing and mine are  quite different..... 8) You may have no use for a 300 but that doesn't apply to all of us.... I would wonder hunting in the swamps if you even need an o6..................

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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2010, 10:07:55 AM »
For many, many years the Eskimos thought that they were well armed with the old 1894 Win 30-30s.
Somehow, they managed to handle everything in Alaska with just a 30-30 Win.
Must have been chewing all that blubber that made them fearless.
Kinda' like the [Phillipine] Moros hopped up on betel nuts ?

I suspect that a 30-06 will handle everything that I will ever run into;
but a 300Win would provide a margin of safety and do it all better and at longer ranges.

Really, it depends on whether I am going to reload;
... so that I can afford to shoot,
... and be able to download for a 300Win Mag.
That is the only way that a 300Win Mag fits in my budget.
If I do not get back into reloading, then the 30-06 is really best, and, in all honesty, would do everything that I will probably ever really need.

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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2010, 10:18:22 AM »
 ;D 357, You know your situation better than anyone and the game you will hunt...an06 is a good rifle, as I said I own two...here in the open west they will work, but the .300 takes much guessing out of the range issue...but that does not apply to much of the country...one thing also, when we mention Eskimos while they shot game with .30-30's .222's and22 Hornets, one must keep in mind they crippled a lot of stuff also...Old O'Connor and others mentioned that several times in their writings...now from what I here semi=autos are the favorite of the modern eskimo who hunts for subsistance, in gas powered modern boats...

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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #50 on: August 04, 2010, 10:31:20 AM »
Yep.

I have always liked flat shooting cartridges ...
and I need them a lot more than ever now:
... my range estimating is not too good and my eyesight is now marginal.

For me, a 270Win and a 300 Win mag would be a real advantage.

With a 30-06, you really need good eyes and ...
you really need to be good at range estimation.

 

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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #51 on: August 04, 2010, 11:06:46 AM »
For many, many years the Eskimos thought that they were well armed with the old 1894 Win 30-30s.
Somehow, they managed to handle everything in Alaska with just a 30-30 Win.
Must have been chewing all that blubber that made them fearless.

Thanks all.

  I'll tell you how they did it...  First of all, they got CLOSE...  With polar bears, they turned some dogs loose to keep the bear busy so they could get CLOSE...  With caribou, they get as close as they can, then start shooting into the herd.  The ones that fell, they retrived, the wounded ones that didn't, well that wasn't their problem, cause they were busy retriveing the ones that did!  And YES i saw them do that myself!

  After having said all that, i agree that the 30-06 is the best all around big game cartridge ever designed!

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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #52 on: August 04, 2010, 11:31:19 AM »
Thank you all !
The 30-06 is a great choice.     
On the other hand, ... if I eat beans and rice ... for a while ...                     
maybe, I can get a pair of Ruger #1s !                 
Which will definitely keep the freezer filled with all manner of good meat to go with the beans and rice.     
Am starting up a couple of [big] piggy banks and
... making plans to get back into reloading.

Reloading will make it feasible for me to consider other options:
300H&H, 300Win, etc.


In the meantime, I will keep drooling over Ruger #1s.
Just two [2], just two [2], just two [2] ;
270 Win & 300H&H / 300Win,
25-06 & 300H&H / 300Win,
243 Win & 300H&H / 300Win,
? ? ? .

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This article helps a lot.
The 300H&H offers a lot of the advantages of the 300Win, plus silky smooth chambering, especially from a box magazine.
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The .300 Winchester
 by Jack Steele
The good ol' ought-six is still a top choice.  From 'chucks to elk, it is a serious caliber for the serious hunter, no question about it.

There is one area, however, where the ought-six gives up some ground, and that's when it comes to pushing heavy bullets -- the kind you want when big, tough critters like elk and moose are on the program.  Yes, the classic .30-06 load pushing a 180-grain pill at 2700-2800 ft/sec will do almost anything you need, but throw in a big bull elk across a wide canyon at dusk, and the 300Win gets the nod.  Consider that at 400 yards, the Winny's 3100 ft/sec with the same 180-grainer gets you 450 ft/lbs more terminal energy and five inches less drop.

If that weren't telling enough, jump up to the 200-grain rock ,and by today's mega-magnum standards the 2550 ft/sec generated by a .30-06 case can be considered positively lethargic, although for close work in heavy timber, the combination is hard to beat.

By contrast, the Winny pushes the 200-grainer to a speedy 2950 ft/sec with careful reloads.  At 400 yards, this translates into almost 700 ft/lbs more terminal energy and a trajectory flattened by 7 inches.  That is the kind of difference that makes a difference on tough game.

Bottom line:  While the .30-06 still may be the finest all-around caliber, if elk are in your plans the .300 Winchester might be a better choice.

The same analysis applies to the .270 Winchester.  By all accounts a hell of a sheep and deer caliber, throw elk into the equation and the .270 becomes marginal.  Sure, there are elk hunters who shoot their bull with a .270 every year, but they are the exception.  Most of the savvy elk crowd considers the .270 either too small or the absolute bare minimum for wapiti.

Suffice it to say that, at 400 yards, the .270 shooting 130 spitzers and the .300 Win. Mag. shooting 200-grain spitzers have virtually identical trajectories.  The difference is that the .270 arrives carrying roughly 1300 ft/lbs of energy (below the 1500 ft/lbs often cited as a minimum for elk) while the Winny will deliver over a ton of energy, almost 2300 ft/lbs  What the great .270 is to deer and sheep, the .300 Winny is to elk.

As versatile, accurate, and popular as the 7mm Remington Magnum is, the .30-06 retains an edge, and the .300 WinMag outclasses them both.

After plains game?  180-grain Ballistic Tips at 3100 ft/sec equal bad mule-deer medicine and devastating performance on pronghorns.  The same load is a ringer in "beanfield" situations.  Elk and moose in your plans?  Load 200-grain Partitions or A-Frames at 2900 ft/sec, and be assured that you have the right gun!  Feel like practicing on coyotes or chucks?   Scream some 165-grain boattails at 3250 ft/sec, and worry about your end of the rifle.

Like with all calibers, there are situations where a different caliber would be ideal, but for all-around versatility, flat trajectory, and high energy, the .300 Winchester Magnum shines, maybe like no other.

In the end, the choice of an all-around rifle depends on many factors.  If you like a gun, you are much more likely to shoot it and shoot it well, so choose a rifle you like.   Also, any experienced rifleman knows that where you hit 'em is much more important than what you hit 'em with, so place your emphasis on skills rather than on the size of the rock.   But when all that is said and done, take a good hard look at the .300 Winchester."
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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #53 on: August 04, 2010, 12:52:45 PM »
What cartridge sound best for you is the 270win right now. You said you hunt the bean fields where there is extended range. Sounds like you may hunt elk some day. 270win. is plenty to kill an elk with the proper bullet and placement. Then if you want a larger caliber down the road so be it. I would rather have a person that shoots alot (practice with their rifle) and place a bullet where it needs to be (kill zone). Rather then a person with a magnum cartridge that thinks they can shoot ( sight in before season with no practice at all) and does not make a fatal shot. Just my two cents worth. Not saying the other cartridges are bad. Heck may arsonel is:
223rem.
243win.
270wsm
300 H&H
So whatever you decide be sure to go shoot it and get proffient beforeusing it for hunting. ;)
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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #54 on: August 04, 2010, 04:37:43 PM »
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OK guys,
Here's a pinup just for us.

http://www.ruger.com/products/no1DE/models.html

God, ain't she gorgeous !
 ... and in 300H&H.
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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #55 on: August 04, 2010, 04:43:22 PM »
Dang me !

I was so excited that I hit the wrong key.
Here's the rest:

http://www.ruger.com/products/no1DE/specSheets/11335.html

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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #56 on: August 05, 2010, 07:00:01 AM »
I'd try to find a .300H&H in a 700 Remington.  You'll want an accurate rifle.
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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #57 on: August 05, 2010, 10:11:06 AM »
Honestly, that makes the most sense.
The real beauty of the 300H&H is the remarkably reliable silky smooth feed of that cartridge from a box magazine.

I just have this lust for Ruger #1s.
Take a look at this Ruger #1 Tropical .416 Ruger.
I need this like I need a petticoat and a side saddle; ... and danged if i'm not trying to dream up every excuse in the world for it.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/57299


A really neat combination might be a 300 H&H 700 Remington and a Ruger #1 in 270Win [or ? ? ].


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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #58 on: August 05, 2010, 11:05:17 AM »
I'd try to find a .300H&H in a 700 Remington.  You'll want an accurate rifle.
I believe Remington only came in their model 721 series in 300 H&H which is the model before the 700's. I could be wrong. Now if you had a Remington model 700 in 8mm Rem. mag. or 375 H&H and rebarrel it into a 300 H&H. ;)
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Re: 300 H&H
« Reply #59 on: August 05, 2010, 11:14:25 AM »
The Remington 700 Classic was available in 300 H&H Magnum with a 24" barrel.  That would be my choice.
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