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« Reply #60 on: July 26, 2010, 07:36:28 AM »
just remember that the skills this people had from decades of practice in their very narrow branch cant be compared to todays people who can do a little in many different types of work .
the man who produced the mörkö was probably a highly skilled bronze founder and knew exactly what he was doing when it came to bronze casting and also the wax working needed for it

there have been lots of practical archeological attempts to make copies of viking age bronze items for example , but please remember that those archeologists doesnt have 30 or maybe even 40 years of experiance in wax working or casting bronze .

so my guess is that the ancient makers vere much more skilled than we even could believe 
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« Reply #61 on: July 26, 2010, 08:07:49 AM »
just remember that the skills this people had from decades of practice in their very narrow branch cant be compared to todays people who can do a little in many different types of work .
the man who produced the mörkö was probably a highly skilled bronze founder and knew exactly what he was doing when it came to bronze casting and also the wax working needed for it

there have been lots of practical archeological attempts to make copies of viking age bronze items for example , but please remember that those archeologists doesnt have 30 or maybe even 40 years of experiance in wax working or casting bronze .

so my guess is that the ancient makers vere much more skilled than we even could believe 


Very good point Dan,  the method of working bronze/copper to make tools by the Aztecs has never been explained or duplicated

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« Reply #62 on: July 26, 2010, 02:57:20 PM »
Another good example of this is cage glass - modern glaziers/blowers still can't agree on how they were made, and haven't been able to reproduce them in the same details that the Romans acheived.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cage_cup

Personally, I don't know if the Morko was originally engraved in wax then cast, or cast then engraved, or engraved then cast then polished then chased (though I'd imagine the latter would be most likely), but either way it exhibits a high level of craftsmanship indicating the maker carefully planned the project from start to finish and would have known the best way, using the tools they had available (or fashioned), to create it.  Not being experienced in casting or engraving, I personally defer to those that are.

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« Reply #63 on: July 26, 2010, 03:42:52 PM »
its millions of ancient things in the world that todays experts and scientists cant explain
maybe we aint that capable today as we like to think we are
most of the knowledge when it comes to craftmanship have disappered today
take just blacksmiths as an example
just 70 - 80 years ago you found them almost at every farm
today you have problems to find one of them in the county
and most of them you can find aint any good ones either
they call themself blacksmiths but should maybe be called welders instead
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« Reply #64 on: August 08, 2010, 02:55:18 PM »
Dan , 'if' I was born a horse ....nailing shoes to my feet would BE THE LIMIT !!!!!! .

You want to weld them on ....? "This is THE mountian top I chose to fight on !!!!" weldem on your own feet !

Anyway , work on my tiller is moving along nicley . Morko is a lucky boy/odin , here , nothing but the best !

No pictures ..... but two or three more days of work and .......we'll see . ;D

Still waiting for the Mother of pearl inlays .... The gem stones are in , but it just isint complete yet ! ::)


Speaking of tillers , Tommorrow Me and Seacoast are going sailing ..... Still got to get the "British Seagull" running ,but shouldnt be too bad .

Depending on Luck and 'Saftey Meetings' we should have a good time . ;D .


I'll have more ballast topside than were it should be ! "Rail Meat"

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« Reply #65 on: August 08, 2010, 05:00:40 PM »
So that's what happened to the Florentine Diamond!

Inlaying mother of pearl into that solid gold staff?  Wow, that will be really ostentatious. :o

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« Reply #66 on: August 08, 2010, 05:25:02 PM »
"Opulance ,I has it " ..... (cold Russian accent) "I only have the BEST" .....

"So when I see glorius stick ....I jump in it ."      Babes on both arms !


...Kisses miniture Garaffe sitting next to him . "HHHAAA HHAAA HHHAAAAAAAA " slaps knees with excitment !!!

For those who havnt seen the commercial ..... sorry .

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« Reply #67 on: August 08, 2010, 05:31:34 PM »
I've seen it.  It's a bad commercial. :-\
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« Reply #68 on: August 08, 2010, 05:52:24 PM »
Not a fan of the commercial, though the miniature giraffe is really cute!

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« Reply #69 on: August 08, 2010, 06:13:33 PM »
I love that stuff . :D

His first apperance was in some car comercial with Eddi Amine and a car full of nerdowells . "Who's going to the emergency room ....?"  'All Of Us .....'

No clue what it means ?

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« Reply #70 on: August 08, 2010, 06:57:54 PM »
"He once challenged his own reflection to a staring contest.  On the fourth day...he won."

DirectTV guy has nothing on The Most Interesting Man in the World. ;D

Looking forward to seeing your Morko in his completeness!

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« Reply #71 on: August 08, 2010, 08:19:33 PM »
"and his shopping lists have won Pulitzers "

Voted The Most important player and he didnt even show up !

Oh yea 'The Most Interesting Man In The World' is good stuff too . :D

In one comercial he comes up out of a hole in the thick ice wearing long johns with a fish in each hand .  8)

Gary                 He hasnt shot a Cannon yet though .  ;)



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« Reply #72 on: August 08, 2010, 10:41:06 PM »
I'd quite happily nail iron shoes to your feet Muskie  :) as for the Seagull engine......ooooo best of luck.......fuel problems ? was a piece about mother of pearl inlay in that email I sent you. Should have sent it to Prince William........more chance of him reading it. The high level of skill etc. etc. etc. of the barrel would most probably have meant similar level on the tiller. Good thinking Muskie........getting more Eurothink all the time. Plaited / twisted steel and copper wire for the grip.......loads of ways that would / could have been decorated.
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« Reply #73 on: August 09, 2010, 12:22:43 AM »
He hasnt shot a Cannon yet though .  ;)

 "He once sunk an aircraft carrier with one shot from a cannon......... He being the "one" who was shot from the cannon."
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« Reply #74 on: August 09, 2010, 09:57:12 AM »
"He once sunk an aircraft carrier with one shot from a cannon......... He being the "one" who was shot from the cannon."

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
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« Reply #75 on: August 09, 2010, 03:14:20 PM »
We had a great time and disscussed where the guns should be located on board .

The most awsome deal O the day was ....That darn British Seagull fired up and ran on the very first pull .

We put gas in her ,shot her with some starting fluid and BAMMO ! Running like a top !


There was a 4-6 MPH breeze and was all we had to work with ,and that was just fine as its been awhile for me . MT had a good time too !

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« Reply #76 on: August 09, 2010, 04:41:06 PM »
I don't know Gary, They look pretty sneaky to me. :)
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« Reply #77 on: August 09, 2010, 06:55:06 PM »
     Mike and I felt fairly comfortable at the start of our sailing adventure today, despite not having a bow chaser in case of trouble.  After we approached the middle of this Colorado Lake (about 6 acres of water), we saw another side of Gary which we just hadn't seen before.  We were becalmed for quite a while and while Mike and I were very patient and calm, Gary began to show some frustration with the wind.  Meanwhile a huge thunderhead began to cover the countryside to the west of the pond.  It was really big, about 25 miles north and south and who knows how deep.  Rain squalls followed it and we began to look for bailing buckets.  There were none.  Mike headed for shore, but it was still quite far when the stinging rain came.  The chop increased and peals of thunder boomed across the water.  Suddenly Gary shinnied to the top of the mast and raised a closed fist to that angry, black, roiling mass.  He shouted above the spashing of the waves and the hiss of horizontal rain,  "Spoil my afternoon outing will you!!  Here I am!!!  Come and get me!!!!   He was suddenly on deck yelling above the din.  To the tops, men.  Rig the top-gallants!  More canvas, men!!  More canvas!!!  And when he said the following, we were quite sure he had really lost it.  "I'll follow him around the Horn, and around the Norway maelstrom, and around perdition's flames before I give him up."                Triple grin and triple winks.

     All in all it was an adventure we will not soon forget!

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« Reply #78 on: August 09, 2010, 07:14:28 PM »
With that crew hiking it would have been pretty simply to keep the boat flat.

Sign me,

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« Reply #79 on: August 11, 2010, 12:47:34 PM »
Mike and Tracy,
I don't know.  Serving under Captain Bligh could be tough.  He didn't have a "cat o' nine" did he?  
Tread carefully my friends.  I have met him.  I'd keep my eye on him for sure.  If he ask you to kiss the gunners Daughter tell him no!  Mutiny!
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« Reply #80 on: August 11, 2010, 03:33:41 PM »
Is Keelhauling legal?



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« Reply #81 on: August 11, 2010, 03:42:14 PM »
Is Keelhauling legal?

I don't think keelhauling would be of much value on a boat with a 6 foot beam that draws only a couple of feet of water.   ;D
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« Reply #82 on: August 11, 2010, 04:05:40 PM »
Is Keelhauling legal?

I don't think keelhauling would be of much value on a boat with a 6 foot beam that draws only a couple of feet of water.   ;D

It depends on if you are the one getting drug through the water.  Tracy, how long can you hold your breath?
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« Reply #83 on: August 11, 2010, 04:59:13 PM »
Nah I wouldnt ever keelhaul someone , ........ it's over the top .

But I did tell them they need to listen to me ...... or I'd marry them to someone onboard .... and it wasn't going to be me .  :o

The crew fearing the skipper might be a good thing . But I think that they were near mortified with motionless incoherrantce by that threat ...... I known't know scardyitis .... or some such fear .  :D

Once in a while one or the other would sort of realize where they should be ....... sometimes . 

I never met a crewman without a bug up his nose over something !  ??? BLLaaGGHHH !!! Bligh was right !

"Full sail in a gale with these hikers Doug" , 400 pounds of ballast below , and 'somewhat more on top .'  ;D

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« Reply #84 on: August 11, 2010, 06:28:51 PM »
Here are some pics of Morkos tiller . I got to get this project going !

I got a Howitzer with an underlug to do ! ;)







It's coming along nicley , still not sure what piece of cratewood it is  ...? 

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« Reply #85 on: August 12, 2010, 03:26:38 AM »
Show us a closeup of the head.
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« Reply #86 on: August 12, 2010, 04:13:48 AM »
It looks suspiciously like maple to me; at this distance :-\
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« Reply #87 on: August 12, 2010, 03:14:02 PM »
After abit of refining here are todays pics .







This is a recreation of a Viking ship head , so I thought it would be a kinda hold over combinded with the Christian Gonne .

Now that I've learned it may not be a Christian Gonne it maybe more approprate than B4 .  8)

Yes it is shallow incised carving only and pretty bitty too . but my patience is running thin here .... I must move on .

It is Wld Cherry with some striping . More tomorrow !  ;D

She'll get an oil finish and I'll watch her darken up over the years .


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« Reply #88 on: August 12, 2010, 03:20:19 PM »
You certainly have a good imagination and feel for design.
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« Reply #89 on: August 13, 2010, 03:38:35 PM »

Here is the Morko tiller today .


Smoother


oiled


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