Another "false flag" operation ?

[bearmgc]

Haven't personally attacked anyone, just commented, on the one hand, that a poster admits to drinking wine while on the internet. That habit obviously reflects the, as you call it, "backwardness" of his posts. To arrogantly state that he drinks while posting, is well, we won't go there. On the other hand, citing a website where there is alot of "out there" postings, does remind me of the "60's", when chemical using youngins thought they were making sense....but weren't.

As to "false Flag attacks", well just because one thinks it, doesn't make it true. I urged discretion at the beginning, about speculation. And the truth came out.

[bearmgc]

Osama is definitely no Christian. The Godless ones love him. Tm, you aren't even funny anymore, just pathetic. POWDERMAN.  

PMan...you're very welcomed to post your opinions and any facts you may have to support your ideas and beliefs. This particular forum is not for the squeamish or faint of heart...it is a discovery forum that questions alot commonly held, but untested beliefs. So, when you digress into character and personal attacks, or other bigoted rhetoric, I will delete it because it does not add to the debate or discovery of the topics at hand AND further distracts from the decorum and relevancy of this fine website and forum(s).  Keep that in mind.....moderator.

Except where the moderator might be a weeeee bit biased, like a "one trick pony", and his comments can be predicted almost to the word. Discover Forum? I think not. More like a platform for a VERY small minority. When any comments, to the contrary of the Moderator's own held beliefs, are posted, those comments are quickly dismissed, sometimes with some very deogatory adjectives. But then again, most of us can give as good as we get. So it really depends on who's dealing the cards, and who has to play them. We already know who the dealer is. If the Moderator becomes overbearing, I expect somebody will be just playing with himself, and talking to himself on this subforum. Nobody to bait or laud over....oh, that would be just too bad. Now there's some very observable facts, relevent to the atmosphere of this subforum.

[powderman]

BEARMGC. You attacked no one, neither did I. Tm says he wants facts, but he doesn't, he ignores truths for muslim lies and propaganda. The only reason I even bother with him is the slim chance he might actually convert some fence sitter away from God,  to islam. Every convert to islam is a soul taken from God to satan himself. Sad. POWDERMAN.  

[bearmgc]

BEARMGC. You attacked no one, neither did I. Tm says he wants facts, but he doesn't, he ignores truths for muslim lies and propaganda. The only reason I even bother with him is the slim chance he might actually convert some fence sitter away from God,  to islam. Every convert to islam is a soul taken from God to satan himself. Sad. POWDDERMAN. 

Friend Powder, I applaud your efforts, though I think the mustard seed has already fallen on rocky ground. Those that choose Islam were likely barren of fertile soil, and full of hatred to begin with. Radical Islam is just an avenue for them to grow their hatred.

[powderman]

tm. The ONLY edit I made to my post was that I saw I had 2 Ds in POWDERMAN, I corrected that. The ONLY place I've read about 5 Israelis dancing in the street after your Godless friends murdered 3,000 Americans, or Israeli students camping out there was from YOU. No facts, just more muslim propaganda. Another thing, dead people don't scream like Berg did as his head was sawed off by the Godless ones. You really need to try an American news source. Where  do you get this garbage?? I hate Israel .com?? Get real. You will meet God some day, the REAL one, but you might not like it. POWDERMAN. 

[ironglow]

Oh My TM;
   We are to bring credible proof of statements we put forth. Sounds OK to me, since I usually do that anyway. Curiously, the video you just posted to bolster your statements, is one which says the FBI cleared the Israelis you are so wrought up about. Seems like that works counter to your proposition.
  Then you cite the Scottish Herald (Scotland's Enquirer) who takes the statement by some woman named only "Maria" who had to "grab her binoculars" to see the white van..but somehow, from that far distance she swore they "seemed happy" ?  Never got her last name did they ?
   Perhaps she was Maria Abdul Shabazz or Maria Hussein Ibrahim !
   You stated that this moving company is a front for Mossad..please provide CREDIBLE documentation. ...And some conspiracy theory blog won't get it !
    While researching earlier, I ran into one of the many "conspiracy theory" blogs posted by somebody with an active..if wobbly, imagination.  If someone continually feed on this tripe, I believe their brain would turn to mush.

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=94&contentid=1242 

[powderman]

If someone continually feed on this tripe, I believe their brain would turn to mush.



HEH. IRONGLOW. I believe you just explained the whole problem here. Certainly explains a lot to me.
tm. I believe this particular forum is just your cup tea. POWDERMAN. 

[ironglow]

PM;
  All I can say is if a person indulges in the garbage in such sites as the one linked above, and believes just half of it..they must indeed be a very miserable individual !
  If they fall forjust half of that junk..e.g....the FBI, the Seals and Marines are the enemy, along with the CIA. Your church is a crime syndicate, the Bible is totally incorrect and an instrument for subjugation. Everything on those sites points to every thusfar trusted organization as completely taken over by some super-secret cabal of power hungry demons , probably operating out of "Area 51" ..
   Living upon that stuff would likely make anyone paranoid. Can they trust their spouse not to slip some flouride in their water ? Are their kids claiming to go to Boy Scouts, but actually sneaking off to an NWO meeting ? can they enjoy an ice cream sundae, without checking for a CIA "bug" in the base of the bowl ?
   Must be a miserable way to live....

[powderman]

IRONGLOW. Good post Sir. What it all actually boils down to is that not everybody believes in the real God or they would know the truth. Then too there are some who know the truth but choose to do satans work anyway. Just as God, the real one, uses everyday people to do his work, so does satan, and it seems there are willing followers everywhere.
tm. You want truth and facts? Go borrow a Bible, the library has them. Read it because it is Gods true word. Israel has been a nation since  God made a pact, or promise, to Abraham, it stands today. Put your koran up for emergencies, ya never know when ya might run out of toilet paper. I kid about this but in all honesty I wouldn't have a copy of satans handbook in my home.
Gotta go to town for a few things, going to ILL in the morning to see Mom and hopefully Jadyn. Later. POWDERMAN. 

[billy_56081]

And TM it is hardly surprising that EVERY conspiracy you babble about is some how linked to Israel by what you claim is "crdible" information. It has gotten to be a joke on how you will link whatever happens to Israel.

[powderman]

tm. You didn't borrow a Bible yet didja?? You fear the truth don't you? Sad, very sad to see you work so hard on the wrong side all these years. God gave us all free will. Good or evil, God, or satan, Heaven, or hell. Choose wisely tm, your life and future depends on it. POWDERMAN. 

[ironglow]

And TM it is hardly surprising that EVERY conspiracy you babble about is some how linked to Israel by what you claim is "crdible" information. It has gotten to be a joke on how you will link whatever happens to Israel.

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Well why don't you crediblely unlink them then, instead of 'babbling' on in their blind defense.  You can start with Jesus' rebellion against the Pharisees which resulted in them getting kicked out of their holy land during the diaspora and continued for 1700 years until reformed, reconciled, and now the world's newest religion is undoing that very Revolution of Mankind. And the rightful inheritors of Judah being the Christians and others accepting of Christ unwelcomed...by Christ haters and debauchers....counterfeiters. Besides, you're still mixing up jews with zionist and don't get the difference...nobody does that anymore.  As I said, if the chickens come home to roost, you will have a serious problem.

 Me, when it comes to looking at what happens in the world...I'm going to look at who's been at the controls the longest, wrote the books, their own accounts, causes the most trouble, and who has most of the money.  You can look at camel jockeys if you want since they've been thrown into the mix since 2001 as far as Americans are concerned, but just show credible info...heck, who knows maybe you can convince me of a few things.


..TM7

    
  TM:
    We have spoken of credible sources and how one should cite them when posting on any controversial subject. Still  you present some very eclectic and convoluted exegesis of the Bible, without any credible backup.
   Thre are many universities of which their main thrust is to prooperly read, interpret and expound upon, the Bible. Among these universities are such names as Liberty, Regent, BIOLA, Hyles-Anderson, Dallas Theological, Tennessee Temple just to name a few. In order to maintain credibility, perhaps you could tell us which of these Bible study universities agrees with your exegesis ?

[ironglow]

So state your authoratative, credible sources....

[ironglow]

TM;
  Thanks for trying, but such a general list does little good, how about some book, line & verse...

  With your list, some would have problems. particularly the last four. For most  serious students of Christianity and the Bible, the National Council of Churches is a very poor source indeed. Many members of that group do not accept  fundamental tenets of Christianity, such as:
  1) The virgin birth          4) His second coming.
  2) The resurrection        5) the trinity
  3) The diety of Christ     6) The sinless life of Christ
       At their international conferences they may well have guests as speaker/demonstrators who are witch doctors, primitive medicine men or shamans, Buddhists, Hindus, Spiritualists, necromancers, sorcerers and perhaps a few "left-handed monkey jumpers" ..thrown in for good measure. Now, some of those aforementioned are recognized religions..but the organization calls itself a "council of CHURCHES".  Perhaps "National Council of WHATEVER" would be more fitting.

  The Episcopal Church...I cannot very well accept as a Biblical authority, since they, in many of their branches dispute between themselves  over the 6 points listed above. ...And aren't they the group ready to implode over the question whether homosexuality and other sins are really sin ?  If they were to read the Bible..say, (Romans 1:22-28) they would have their answer..no need to quarrel.

  The "official" biography of the Rothschilds...I have read too many "official' biographies...only to find out later, what the real truth was.

   ...And when you assert that the OT and NT tend to prove your point, you are very negligent in not citing book, line and verse..since the aforementioned universities all come to basically the same conclusions; which seem 180 degrees opposed to your observations.