Author Topic: Does anyone have experience with Cannonmikes? (Read 1795 times)

robbob · « **on:** July 14, 2010, 03:43:54 PM »

I am interested in on elf his 1/2 scale 1841 barrels. I did a search and come up with nothing. Does anyone have any experience with his products or photos to share? Any other recommendations on similar sized barrels? I should have gotten one of Dom's parrotts last year, but decided ro start small and bought a Brooks 24 pounder which is awesome. Now its's time to go bigger.

Rob

Ex 49'er · « **Reply #1 on:** July 14, 2010, 03:57:14 PM »

I've got one of his 1780-1800 Spanish swivel guns. Bore size is 1 1/4". Great little gun.
Cannonmike is a great person to do business with.
I also got a rear sight from him. The sight sits in the fuse hole and can be raised or lowered real easy. It's a peep arangement.
Here is his email addy: cannonmike<cannonmike@qwest.net>

Double D · « **Reply #2 on:** July 14, 2010, 04:26:58 PM »

He is on our link list and he as some interesting stuff. Tell him you saw the link to his website on our board.

robbob · « **Reply #3 on:** July 15, 2010, 02:36:40 PM »

Thanks guys. Just had a few thoughts.....what's the best way to finish a steel barrel? I was thinking some type of paint. Probably an epoxy would be best?

Of course I cooed have it blued if i can find someone to do it for me. Bluing would also slow any oxidation inside the bore so might not be a bad option. Anyone have any input?

Rob

Double D · « **Reply #4 on:** July 15, 2010, 03:01:36 PM »

Paint works just fine. My Cairo gun is made with 4140 and was painted using rustoleum barbecue paint back in the mid 80's. I refinished it last year and found no corrosion. One thing I did do before painting was to use a good primer.

I had no issues over that period of time with corrosion. The gun is always clean with the cgarden house after every shooting session, then dried and oiled with NAPA ATF 5.

For bluing you are going to need to find a metal finisher-plater who does black oxide work. CM barrels are large enough that they won't fit in most gunsmith bluing tanks.

gulfcoastblackpowder · « **Reply #5 on:** July 15, 2010, 03:09:54 PM »

There was a popular paint that people on here were using (one of those super durable types), and I had a link to it on a supplier's site, but the link is dead and buried or deleted, and I don't remember what the stuff is called. I'm considering options for my Hern barrel, so I'm also interested in seeing other people's recommendations (though bluing isn't the route I'd go for mine).

RocklockI · « **Reply #6 on:** July 15, 2010, 03:36:28 PM »

Linseed oil and coal dust .

Gary

Painted on Navy style .

robbob · « **Reply #7 on:** July 15, 2010, 03:57:01 PM »

Quote from: Double D on July 15, 2010, 03:01:36 PM

Paint works just fine. My Cairo gun is made with 4140 and was painted using rustoleum barbecue paint back in the mid 80's. I refinished it last year and found no corrosion. One thing I did do before painting was to use a good primer.

I had no issues over that period of time with corrosion. The gun is always clean with the cgarden house after every shooting session, then dried and oiled with NAPA ATF 5.

For bluing you are going to need to find a metal finisher-plater who does black oxide work. CM barrels are large enough that they won't fit in most gunsmith bluing

The barbecue paint sounds like a good idea. I am in the coal region of PA so there is the option Rocklock mentioned, but that sounds a bit messy

.

Zulu · « **Reply #8 on:** July 15, 2010, 04:46:15 PM »

I know someone who had their mountain howitzer powder coated black. It really looked good!

Zulu

irishman · « **Reply #9 on:** July 15, 2010, 05:38:24 PM »

Quote from: Zulu on July 15, 2010, 04:46:15 PM

I know someone who had their mountain howitzer powder coated black. It really looked good!
Zulu

Zulu,

Way interesting! I have had some positive experience with powder coating on marine engine blocks. How did it work on BP barrels?

Michael

armorer77 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 15, 2010, 11:56:07 PM »

Brownells sells a bake on finish . How big is your oven ?

robbob · « **Reply #11 on:** July 16, 2010, 02:06:05 AM »

Quote from: armorer77 on July 15, 2010, 11:56:07 PM

Brownells sells a bake on finish . How big is your oven ?

Not big enough for a 30" tube

Zulu · « **Reply #12 on:** July 16, 2010, 04:05:33 AM »

Quote from: irishman on July 15, 2010, 05:38:24 PM

Quote from: Zulu on July 15, 2010, 04:46:15 PM
I know someone who had their mountain howitzer powder coated black. It really looked good!
Zulu
Zulu,

Way interesting! I have had some positive experience with powder coating on marine engine blocks. How did it work on BP barrels?

Michael

Michael,
On this particular barrel, it was a glossy finish, it was chip resistant, scratch resistant, and very easy to clean up. I always had a problem with paint chipping of on the muzzel face of my Parrott rifle. This gun didn't seem to have the problem.
Zulu

Ex 49'er · « **Reply #13 on:** July 16, 2010, 04:33:18 AM »

Seems like a couple of years ago someone used POR-15. It is super hard stuff, doesn't chip, rustproof paint.
It's not cheap; but, it protects.
http://www.tcpglobal.com/autobodydepot/POR15.aspx

VA Rifleman · « **Reply #14 on:** July 16, 2010, 08:38:25 AM »

My 1841 should arrive this coming monday. $125. for shipping to VA. Mike is of few words, but great to deal with. He makes nice molds as well. Theres a real dearth of good 1/2 scales barrels out there.

robbob · « **Reply #15 on:** July 16, 2010, 03:15:25 PM »

Alright now I'm getting excited

. I emailed Mike earlier this week and he won't be producing any barrels until October. I guess I'll be spending my winter building the carriage. Hehehehehehe

gulfcoastblackpowder · « **Reply #16 on:** July 16, 2010, 04:46:54 PM »

Quote from: Ex 49'er on July 16, 2010, 04:33:18 AM

Seems like a couple of years ago someone used POR-15. It is super hard stuff, doesn't chip, rustproof paint.
It's not cheap; but, it protects.
http://www.tcpglobal.com/autobodydepot/POR15.aspx

That's the stuff I was thinking of. I don't know how good it is, but it seems like a decent option. I'm also thinking about brake caliper paint.

robbob · « **Reply #17 on:** July 16, 2010, 05:03:30 PM »

Brake caliper paint sounds like it would be a good option. Should withstand high heat etc without chipping etc, probably the same as BBQ paint. Most caliper paints I have seen are brush on. The spray on BBQ paint might give a better finish sans brushstrokes. I've never used BBQ paint. Is it a matte finish? The caliper paints are usually gloss or semi-gloss which would probably look better than matte.

Double D · « **Reply #18 on:** July 16, 2010, 07:06:34 PM »

Barbcue paint or engine paint was available in what ever finish finish you want.

VA Rifleman · « **Reply #19 on:** July 29, 2010, 05:02:01 PM »

Quote from: robbob on July 14, 2010, 03:43:54 PM

I am interested in on elf his 1/2 scale 1841 barrels. I did a search and come up with nothing. Does anyone have any experience with his products or photos to share? Any other recommendations on similar sized barrels? I should have gotten one of Dom's parrotts last year, but decided ro start small and bought a Brooks 24 pounder which is awesome. Now its's time to go bigger.

Rob

Rob, If you PM me with an e-mail address, I can send about 5 pics of that 1841 barrel your way.
It's a nice peice.

Regards
Va Rifleman

Double D · « **Reply #20 on:** July 29, 2010, 06:08:50 PM »

VA R.

Post he pictures, we want to see!!!

VA Rifleman · « **Reply #21 on:** July 30, 2010, 02:52:21 PM »

Quote from: Double D on July 29, 2010, 06:08:50 PM

VA R.

Post he pictures, we want to see!!!

Sent Rob the pics I received from Cannon Mike.

Next week, I'll post some of the barrel in it's new home. I mounted it in an naval carriage that had to be narrowed 3/4" and the trunion pockets enlarged from 1.5" to 1.75". Angled cheeks, so had to be careful. Thought it came out very nice. It's the living room cannon. Don't know if any 6 lb barrels ever found their way to a naval mount. Perhaps on the western rivers or maybe the rebs as they were like us in the Corps. "Improvise, Adapt and Overcome".

In the process, I stumbled on one of your guys secrets. Cannon builds / work is a great excuse to buy shop gear!

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #22 on:** July 30, 2010, 02:54:32 PM »

Yup. Like milling machine, lathes, surface grinder .....

Zulu · « **Reply #23 on:** July 30, 2010, 02:57:04 PM »

How could you possibly have too many tools?

That's like having too much money. That doesn't happen in this house.

Zulu

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #24 on:** July 30, 2010, 02:59:16 PM »

Quote from: Zulu on July 30, 2010, 02:57:04 PM

How could you possibly have too many tools? That's like having too much money. That doesn't happen in this house.
Zulu

It is possible, however, to have too much fun. For example the fellow at work who pulled a muscle in his back from laughing too hard.

robbob · « **Reply #25 on:** July 30, 2010, 04:36:12 PM »

Got your pictures. Thanks! Can't wait to see the full build you did! I'll buy wheels.....I don't have the skills or tools to build my own. I'll probably buy a band saw for field carriage building. What size should I get? Fortunatley I live right by a Grizzly tool showroom

Rob

I was thinking about this one

http://www.grizzly.com/products/The-Ultimate-14-Bandsaw/G0555

GGaskill · « **Reply #26 on:** July 30, 2010, 05:56:46 PM »

That's probably OK although you might consider getting the riser block kit for it too.

robbob · « **Reply #27 on:** July 31, 2010, 03:38:51 AM »

Quote from: GGaskill on July 30, 2010, 05:56:46 PM

That's probably OK although you might consider getting the riser block kit for it too.

Looks like a good idea.