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Offline briannmilewis

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Folks, my only experience with lever action is a few years owning a Henry 22LR, and I put 400+ rounds thru that little gun and it did not complain once.

I figure Marlin 357s and 44s can stand up to high volume shooting (1000+ per year) because of cowboy action shooting.

How about the 30-30s, 35 Rems, 45-70s and 444s?

Just trying to get a handle on long term reliability under heavy use conditions.

Thanks...

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Re: Are there any high volume shooting issues with any Marlin caliber?
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2010, 11:50:13 AM »
Marlin lever actions are so popular, in part, because they are reliable and durable.  I would buy a new one today with the expectation my grandson would some day be using it.  That said, any mechanical device can and will wear out.  Parts break.   I can't really give an estimate as to round life, but I would say if you shoot one enough to actually wear it out, I would say I got my monies worth and be pretty proud to hang it on the wall...

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Re: Are there any high volume shooting issues with any Marlin caliber?
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2010, 05:59:23 PM »
I have two marlins I shoot alot a 35 I'v had about 20 yrs. I got new, and a 444 used ,I shoot both about 500 times a year and both are still going strong, but like bigeasy said any mech. device can and will wear out.
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Re: Are there any high volume shooting issues with any Marlin caliber?
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2010, 10:48:42 PM »
A thousand rounds in a year isn't really "high volume" shooting -at least it isn't to some of us.  My Ruger 10/22 digests that much ammo during an average week.  That said, I suspect most 336's don't see anywhere near that round count in a single owner's lifetime.

I got my 336 when I was 11 going on 12, and I never saw it as much of a "range toy" until recently.  Over the course of the 34 years that I've owned the rifle, its only had about 2,000 rounds down its tube.  I've put half of them through the gun in just the last five range sessions, shooting 200 rounds each trip.  Even at this pace, should I continue it, I am not overly concerned about wearing the thing out.  Since I live about 15 minutes away from a nice public shooting range, and visit said range an average of 3 days each week, there is a pretty good chance that I will keep the volume up with my 336.

While it is certainly true that any mechanical device will wear out eventually, it also true that periodic repair and parts replacement can compensate for this to a large degree. 

Also, the .30-30 (which my 336 is chambered to) isn't a high pressure, high velocity round, as we all know.  I would think that if you keep the pressure around factory ammo levels, a 336 so chambered would last a good long while even with volume greater than 1,000 rounds a year.  You simply don't have the throat erosion issues and locking surface pounding high bolt thrust potential that you'd have with more modern higher performance rounds.  If you shot lead bullets, which the .30-30 handles well, I would think that their use would extend barrel life even further.   I also think that more wear and tear occurs from improper cleaning techniques than actual shooting where most firearms are concerned. 

So, for me, I'll just keep shooting my 336 as much as I want, which is currently quite a lot.  When parts wear out, I'll simply replace them or have them replaced until the rifle is no longer serviceable, doubting I'll ever live to actually see that day come.

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Re: Are there any high volume shooting issues with any Marlin caliber?
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2010, 06:30:05 AM »

    The Marlin .357s and 44 mags are used by cowboy shooters and the chambers can withstand high volume shooting, but as any cowboy shooter will tell you, the lifters will wear out fairly rapidly, and you will have to replace them fairly often.  This happens because of a design factor, whereby the falling lifter hits (peans against) another piece of metal.  When the lifter wears out, the rounds will jam while attempting  to feed, and this is known as the "Marlin Jam."

  This same design factor (some call it a defect) is present in the model 336, but most people don't shoot anywhere near as many rounds through their .30-30 as through their .357, so the lifter will wear out much more slowly.

    My advice would be to order and keep in stock at least one spare lifter per rifle.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Are there any high volume shooting issues with any Marlin caliber?
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2010, 03:45:28 PM »
You won't wear out a 30-30 or 35 Remington shooting 1,000 rounds a year.  Go to it, and remember to just buy a lot of reloading components.
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Re: Are there any high volume shooting issues with any Marlin caliber?
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2010, 01:51:16 AM »
the parts ive wore out most in marlins are firing pins and extractors.
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Re: Are there any high volume shooting issues with any Marlin caliber?
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2010, 02:44:22 AM »
You can't afford to wear out a Marlin.
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Re: Are there any high volume shooting issues with any Marlin caliber?
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2010, 03:52:10 AM »
They`ll still be firing when you yell------uncle.    :)
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Re: Are there any high volume shooting issues with any Marlin caliber?
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2010, 06:00:13 PM »
Folks, my only experience with lever action is a few years owning a Henry 22LR, and I put 400+ rounds thru that little gun and it did not complain once.

I figure Marlin 357s and 44s can stand up to high volume shooting (1000+ per year) because of cowboy action shooting.

How about the 30-30s, 35 Rems, 45-70s and 444s?

Just trying to get a handle on long term reliability under heavy use conditions.

Thanks...

I have heard of others with misfire problems besides me. I've got a 1968 RC 30/30 in like new condition. I soaked the bolt in Hoppes #9 for 3 days, used a drill bit and bristle bruch to clean it out, smoothed up the firing pin parts and changed to 3 different primers, put in a new original mainspring,  and still get misfires. I stuck some of those same rounds in a W94 and they all fired.

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Re: Are there any high volume shooting issues with any Marlin caliber?
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2010, 11:15:03 AM »
THE biggest issue with high volume shooting with Marlins is no more loaded ammo. ::) ;D  DP
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