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Offline patw

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QB25 and QB78 From Archer Airguns
« on: July 17, 2010, 04:00:54 PM »
In my war with squirrels, I was trying to get more knockdown power than my RWS  Diana .177.  I started by getting a QB25 from Archer airguns.   It looked like a lot of rifle for the money.  The trigger was not as good as the RWS, but acceptable.  The sights seemed cheap, but it did not matter as I was going to scope it.  Once I got the scope on, I got some vertical stringing, enough that I did not feel comfortable trying to shoot squirrels with it.  So, I ordered the QB78.  Again, it looked like a good buy for the money.  I moved the scope from the QB25, and the accuracy was good.  I shoot squirrels as they show up, and these days either I have significantly trimmed their numbers or they have caught on that it is better to hide when I come home.  I don't see as many as I did initially and it may be several days before I get a shot.  In any case, I shot a startling raiding my blueberry bushes, and the pellet did not kill it.  I either had shot that same cartridge enough that the pressure was down, or the CO2 had leaked out.   So, I figured I would shoot the QB25 with Iron sights.  Accuracy was acceptable, but trying to zero it, it ended up shooting high with the rear sight all the way down.  I contacted Archer guns, and he suggested I file the rear sight down or  get a scope.  I told him I was not interested in filing the rear sight, and that the scope gave me stringing.  What I really need is a taller front sight insert.  He replied that they did not have any taller sights, so I am on my own, I will find some way to glue something to the front sight insert.

I am now back to where I started, shooting squirrels with my RWS.

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Re: QB25 and QB78 From Archer Airguns
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2010, 08:49:15 PM »
Which model RWS are you shooting?  With several exceptions I find it hard to believe that an RWS lacks the power for a squirrel...What range are they being shot at?

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Re: QB25 and QB78 From Archer Airguns
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2010, 05:57:14 AM »
I have a RWS Diana 45 in .177, had it many years.  I had been having problems killing squirrels, someone here mentioned heavier pellets and it worked.  I wanted a .22 air rifle with a scope for whatever illogical reason.  The RWS with Gamo Hunter pellets drops them dead when I do my part.  I should have stopped before buying the Chinese rifles.

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Re: QB25 and QB78 From Archer Airguns
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2010, 07:12:23 AM »
As I recall there are two versions of the 45, one has the same power plant as the model 34 the other doesn't.  It seems that sometime around the late '80s they made the switch, check out the American Vintage Airguns Forum, you should be able to find more reliable information there.

If your gun is the same internally as the model 34, then any sort of modifications that apply to the 34 could be done with yours.  The one I would recommend is Vortek's PG2 kit.

No matter what version of the 45 you've got, you should check out Predator Pellts for your hunting needs.  They've gotten rave reviews and many air gun hunters prefer them over traditional designs.  A quick search on the Yellow Forum will yield some great pictures of how well they expand.

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Re: QB25 and QB78 From Archer Airguns
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2010, 02:33:04 PM »
The QB78 is the most accurate airgun I have ever fired.
I bought one from archer last year and took 40+
tree rats this past season (95% headshots). Change the breech\barrel seal
and get the new bolt they offer. these mods put you up around
13 ft pounds with a 14 grain pellet. Plenty for a tree rat.
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Re: QB25 and QB78 From Archer Airguns
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2010, 09:37:09 AM »
i agree about the 34...it's a good medium power springer that should take tree rats out to 30-40 yards with no problem.

the QB78 is also right in there in the low/medium power and should be able to handle doing in a tree rat.

there's a LOT of mods available for the QB78 to get LOTS of fpe from it.
don't squat while wearing your spurs...will rogers