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Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew
A man has been sentenced to 18 months in prison after telling a woman that he was also Jewish

Jo Adetunji and Harriet Sherwood in Jerusalem
The Guardian,    Wednesday 21 July 2010
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Jerusalem's old city walls. Arabs constitute about 20% of Israel's population, but relationships between Jews and Arabs are rare. Photograph: Uriel Sinai/Getty Images
A Palestinian man has been convicted of rape after having consensual sex with a woman who had believed him to be a fellow Jew.

Sabbar Kashur, 30, was sentenced to 18 months in prison on Monday after the court ruled that he was guilty of rape by deception. According to the complaint filed by the woman with the Jerusalem district court, the two met in downtown Jerusalem in September 2008 where Kashur, an Arab from East Jerusalem, introduced himself as a Jewish bachelor seeking a serious relationship. The two then had consensual sex in a nearby building before Kashur left.

When she later found out that he was not Jewish but an Arab, she filed a criminal complaint for rape and indecent assault.

Although Kashur was initially charged with rape and indecent assault, this was changed to a charge of rape by deception as part of a plea bargain arrangement.

Handing down the verdict, Tzvi Segal, one of three judges on the case, acknowledged that sex had been consensual but said that although not "a classical rape by force," the woman would not have consented if she had not believed Kashur was Jewish.

The sex therefore was obtained under false pretences, the judges said. "If she hadn't thought the accused was a Jewish bachelor interested in a serious romantic relationship, she would not have cooperated," they added.

The court ruled that Kashur should receive a jail term and rejected the option of a six-month community service order. He was said to be seeking to appeal.

Segal said: "The court is obliged to protect the public interest from sophisticated, smooth-tongued criminals who can deceive innocent victims at an unbearable price – the sanctity of their bodies and souls. When the very basis of trust between human beings drops, especially when the matters at hand are so intimate, sensitive and fateful, the court is required to stand firmly at the side of the victims – actual and potential – to protect their wellbeing. Otherwise, they will be used, manipulated and misled, while paying only a tolerable and symbolic price."

Gideon Levy, a liberal Israeli commentator, was quoted as saying: "I would like to raise only one question with the judge. What if this guy had been a Jew who pretended to be a Muslim and had sex with a Muslim woman?

"Would he have been convicted of rape? The answer is: of course not."

Arabs constitute about 20% of Israel's population, but relationships between Jews and Arabs are rare. There are few mixed neighbourhoods or towns, and Arabs suffer routine discrimination.

Israeli MPs are considering a law requiring prospective Israeli citizens to declare loyalty to Israel as a "Jewish, democratic state". Many Arabs would balk at swearing allegiance to a state which they see as explicitly excluding or marginalising them.

Dan Meridor, a deputy prime minister in Binyamin Netanyahu's government, is opposed to the proposal. "Why does every bill need the word 'Jewish' in it – to show the Arab citizens that it doesn't belong to them? Then we're all shocked when they radicalise their stance.

"The majority doesn't need to remind the minority that it is in fact a minority all the time," he added.

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It just shows the Isrealies for what they are! Two faced sob's.
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Ain't the first time a man has lied to do the horizontal hokey pokey!!  ;) gypsyman
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Ain't the first time a man has lied to do the horizontal hokey pokey!!  ;) gypsyman
Your going to get this locked down gypsyman.

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Ain't the first time a man has lied to do the horizontal hokey pokey!!  ;) gypsyman

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It just shows the Isrealies for what they are! Two faced sob's.
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And the Arab wasn't ?
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There is more to this than they are telling
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There was a woman here who would have men arrested for rape every time one broke up with her .
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HEH. A muslim man wanting to have sex with what he knows is a real woman instead of a pig in a poke???? WOW, big shock there. I don't blame her for being offended, kinda like her being guilty of beastiality. POWDERMAN.  :D :D :D :D :D :D
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"If she hadn't thought the accused was a Jewish bachelor interested in a serious romantic relationship, she would not have cooperated"

I am just loving this.

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Isreal and Iran are two regelous states.
Their laws are the laws of the religeon.
For instance you can not serve other than Kosher food in a restaraunt in Isreal.
A bacon cheese burger is out and can get the place closed or heavily fined.
They do not have seperation of church and state.  they are one.
They seem forgine to us were we under the first amendment are granted the right of free association, assmebly, and being able to pick what religeon we want if any and not have the state tell us our beliefs. Although I will say that enviromentalism has become the religeon of the state and every thing that is not fully believed is blastfumy and the sayer is scorened and ridiculed.

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So in Israel they send the muzzy to jail for lying.  Over here we make the muzzy the president for lying.
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So in Israel they send the muzzy to jail for lying.  Over here we make the muzzy the president for lying.


HEH. Good one. Too bad it's true. POWDERMAN.  :D :D
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Is muzzy a derogatory term?

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Is muzzy a derogatory term?


To whom ??????????? POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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Some of us was so ugly we had to lie,
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Are you familiar with the terms "cunning" and "deceptive"?  Or is it ?"
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Trying to understand someone elses stardards, using only your own, will turn your hair gray. It can't be done.

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Trying to understand someone elses stardards, using only your own, will turn your hair gray. It can't be done.
That is only true if you are smart enough to understand what you are doing.  A stunning number of people are not.  It's very easy to simply condemn anything different from your way of thinking.  It doesn't require much intelligence to do so, and even better, it makes you feel like you are superior to everyone else.

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If one or both had been living their professed religion, this would never have been a issue.

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Trying to understand someone elses stardards, using only your own, will turn your hair gray. It can't be done.

Why is this simple fact so hard for most people to understand?   :-\  Different cultures think, act and react differently!  Even different socio-ecomomic cultures within the same geographical area!   :(
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Because they are taught everyday that it is one world and we are all the same! They have been preaching that lie for years now.

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Brierpatch:  No, It is OK for the Muslum man to go out and have sex with strange women.  In their religion the men can do anything they want, with any woman.  They are then subjected to very little blame, because it is the woman's fault.  Her beauty was just too much for him to bear.  If she is a muslium woman she is then put to death for dishonering the family or husband.  Nothing is ever done to the man unless the family or husband is high ranking, and a scandal has occured.  Then sometimes the man is put to death as well.  If the woman was not Islamic, it is thought of as of no concern to society.

The Quran is a very hard book to read, because it jumps around and there is so many items scattered throughout the book.  Passages in one pace will relate back to somewhere else in the book and you will have a hard time finding the associated links.  I do not see how in a life time someone who lives a fifteenth century lifestyle could ever read it and understand what he has read.

Here is a link to a site where it has been made a little easier to understand.

http://prophetofdoom.net/
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If one or both had been living their professed religion, this would never have been a issue.


YEP. He had no business being in Israel anyway. She is forever tainted. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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Sourdough, I thought he was suppose to be with his 72 vigins.

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The point most people are missing is the women cried foul and rape because she had sex unaware of having it with a -----------------



I'd be upset too. Fill in the blanks. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

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Irony is they can't tell the difference based looks.

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tm. What she did was sinful, doing it with satans disciple made it even worse, she shamed herself and her family, kinda like sleeping with a dog. POWDERMAN.  ::) ::)
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm