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Looking for a first car
« on: July 24, 2010, 10:36:02 AM »
I am 15 and going to be getting a permit soon and then a license and I am wondering what car would be good for a first? I think I want a truck but don't know about gas and all that I found this one chevy I think it was 60s or 70s and it was a brighter blue and I really liked it but it was sold or $3500 I was also thinking about El caminos they don't cost an arm and a leg they look pretty cool 8) but I don't know about gas on them I will be driving as much as I can probably going fishing or hunting a lot. I'm not too bad fixing on cars I know people that can help me with that and I would have a good time fixing them. I would also like to know your first cars
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Re: Looking for a first car
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2010, 11:38:55 AM »
Gotta get one that impresses chicks.
At least that was the rule when I was 16.
Fortunately for you, they like trucks now also.
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Re: Looking for a first car
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2010, 12:51:11 PM »
Gotta get one that impresses chicks.


#1 rule that was a little concern with the El camino but I don't know maybe some of em like the classics 8)
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Re: Looking for a first car
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2010, 01:33:25 PM »
A Ford with a 3oo straight six cylender is as reliable as an anvil and simple to work on. If you stay away from 4X4 and have tall rear gears, something like 2.90 to 1 (highway gears) rather than short gears like 4.10 to 1 (4X4 or heavy tow package gears) you will get around 21 or 22 mpg or maybe better with a five speed OD standard shift if the engine is stock. (no torque cam etc.) Still will have enough power to put a boat in and out on a trailler if the boat is not too big.

To hunt and fish be sure you take the time to build a good parking break, when you have to trust an automatic trans park pin or have to kill the engine in gear to hold the vehicle parked to unload a boat or 4 wheeler, you will probably end up in trouble such as in the lake or in a  deep gully.  

You can probably find almost anything you will need for the modles with the 300 engine in a junk yard or someone's pasture, includeing rear ends. 4X4s are a lot more expensive to keep going and the differentials are not available in highway gears. The body styles for that motor ran for several years.They made them in step side which looked pretty neet. (Fenders and a small running board on the rear cargo box rather than a straight flat sided cargo box. A 2 tone paint job can really set that off!)

 You might find an old delivery pannel van without side windows  or pasenger van with side windows (curtains for a camper) with the same motor and  an overdrive automatic trans. I drove one like that in 3/4 ton and hauled a heavy load in one dirrection and would average 21-22 mpg. It can be fixed up real neet with fold down cots on the walls or captains chairs and removeable pedastable tables. Have your own mini camper? A roof rack  or a roof pop up head room would increase space. A party wagon where ever you go.

All you need is a paint spray gun, upolstrey cement, staple gun, possibly a saws all,  paitence and imagination and it can be as cool as your mind allows it to be.

My first truck was a 56 Chevy Apache 6 cyl with a 3 spd standard shift. It was light blue with dark blue and white tuck and roll seats. I was 12 years old and I drove it to school every day because no activities bus ran to my part of the country after football practice. I taught my brother who was 6 years old how to drive with him sitting in my lap on the way to school each day.

As for the EL Camono, I would get a car instead. A car can tow as much with a lot mmore room inside. You can haul anything with a car, just add a bumper hitch and get a trailer. Every car that I have owned had a trailer hitch put on it. My 2.2 liter 4 cyl Toyota Camry has a 1000 lb towing capacity. You can practice backing a trailer (in a flat parkng lot) with a long tung is easiest. (That is how my girls learned) The springs are like a cars so weight capacity is limited. Your head will hit the back glass if you have the seat back.  ***No room in the cab***.

Best of luck to you and I hope the plan works out.

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Re: Looking for a first car
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2010, 02:12:21 PM »
Does an El Camino have bucket seats?

Get a truck with bench seats, so she can slide over it next to you.
Gotta have automatic transmission with the shifter on the steering column, so you aren't having to shift all the time when she does.
Air conditioning and a good sound system.

The rest are just incidental parts.

You can ride with someone else when you go hunting.


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Re: Looking for a first car
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2010, 02:24:52 PM »
  If you're like most first car owners, you won't have tons of bucks to throw around. A Ranger, Mazda or S-10, 4 cyl w/5 speed manual will get you 25-28 mpg with decent driving and answer many needs for you, if indeed, you are born-to-hunt.
  I would reccommend less accessories rather than more (less to break & go wrong)..and if you wish, they can be made to look pretty cool with little expense. ...just my $.02
  ...and BTW: I fit is your desire to impress chicks, forget the "burning rubber" games. A few will be impressed but most, including the smarter ones will say, "what a jerk"!  ::)
   Their parents won't be particularly impressed either.... ;) :D
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Re: Looking for a first car
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2010, 03:34:28 PM »
if I could get 22mpg in a truck and still haul some stuff that would be great. I think the biggest thing I would haul is a trailer full of hay or a bed full of pumpkins the hay is asking quite a lot but it shouldn't be too much trouble should it? and for impressing chicks I think the car in general would be fine.
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Re: Looking for a first car
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2010, 03:49:45 PM »
+1 on the trailer hitch.
A class 1 (1000 lb) hitch is about $ 200 installed from U-haul on just about any car.
a 1000 lb trailer is about $300 from Harbor Freight.
So for $500 you can haul the same as a half ton pick-up.

If you can get a Class 3 hitch, you can get one of the 400# racks.

I have both. I use the rack 95% of the time.

Chicks dig Jeeps.
My wife bought me a Jaguar for Valentine's day a few years ago.
She said she always wanted to be married to a guy with a Jag, til she found out what she had was a guy with a Jag in the shop.
I traded it for a Jeep Liberty. Got the rack. Brought home a freezer on it. She was truly impressed.

 
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Re: Looking for a first car
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2010, 03:59:27 PM »
cool about that hitch what kind of car is good to put one on? a jeep would be cool I think my mom would be jealous ;D
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Re: Looking for a first car
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2010, 04:21:49 PM »
The towing capacity of each car is listed in the owner's manual, so you can probably find it on line.

Needs to be capable of a class 3 hitch (tongue capacity of 400#).

Jeep Libertys, Wranglers and larger are capable and have predrilled holes to install it.
I bought mine on line and put in on myself.
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Re: Looking for a first car
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2010, 06:07:58 AM »
My son is 13 and last summer he mowed lawns and bought a 1983 chevy silverado. It had a 383 stroker with rollers in the motor, too much engine. This summer he sold the 383 and we had a friend help him build a new 350 and bought a new turbo 400 tranny for it. He has worked hard and has had a lot of help because he is willing to work. The guy sold him the new motor and tranny for $600 because he helped build it and we sold the 383 for $700. We have done some swapping and trading so he came out with under $1000 in the truck so far. I have close to that in it but he does not know that. Could probably sell it today for $3500. Now he has 2 summers to save for paint and body work and he will have a very nice classic truck to impress the ladies. Next move is to swap 273 gears out for 373 so we can leave a few marks around town if we want.
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Re: Looking for a first car
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2010, 07:16:40 AM »
My son is 13 and last summer he mowed lawns and bought a 1983 chevy silverado. It had a 383 stroker with rollers in the motor, too much engine. This summer he sold the 383 and we had a friend help him build a new 350 and bought a new turbo 400 tranny for it. He has worked hard and has had a lot of help because he is willing to work. The guy sold him the new motor and tranny for $600 because he helped build it and we sold the 383 for $700. We have done some swapping and trading so he came out with under $1000 in the truck so far. I have close to that in it but he does not know that. Could probably sell it today for $3500. Now he has 2 summers to save for paint and body work and he will have a very nice classic truck to impress the ladies. Next move is to swap 273 gears out for 373 so we can leave a few marks around town if we want.

Thats really cool for a 13yr old I tryed mowing yards everyone thought I was too young and wouldn't let me? ??? maybe if I get my mower working i'll try again. also I was looking on craigs list and for a 72 camaro for $1600 it said it runs and need engine work not sure what kind of work though it has some rust around the edges but I think it would be a good car maybe work on it a bit
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Re: Looking for a first car
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2010, 04:59:09 AM »
You gotta go where your heart (and wallet) leads you.  If an El Camino, Camero, Jeep, etc., is your current automotive "Jones" then that is the "right car" for you regardless of our recommendations.  It's your "ride".  Go get it and make it yours.

Experience is going to teach you.  You won't know until you have been there and done that...and we hope that it is all good!

In 1978 I had a 1969 VW bug that was the best AUTO I ever had (all trucks since)...could take its engine out by hand BY MYSELF, overhaul it, it was a simple machine by comparison, and put it back in in an afternoon.  Wide tires, small steering wheel, short wheel base, Hurst shifter, 1600 cc jugs converted to 1900 cc's, light weight,  and MAN would it GO!  Used to drive up and down the SIDES of the levees outside of New Orleans chasing rabbits.  Stable, fast, CHEAP, and I had the KEY to the gates on the levees.  Woo Hoo!  Those were some GOOD OLD DAYS!  Not a very "Ladies Man" kind of auto, but WTH, I was having FUN!  the ladies came later...at first it was "hold my beer and watch this..."

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Re: Looking for a first car
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2010, 08:24:56 AM »
Set yourself a budget, I mean absolute tops you can pay. Then take about half of that money and start shopping. Look for something that has some ugly all over it but is very solid. Idles smooth, stops straight, goes down the road with no hands for a good long way, no smoke out of the motor, wipers run, heat runs, seats might be all torn up. You get the picture. $600 ought to cover this fine.

Take it home, sweep all the crap out of it, wash the windows inside, get mom to give you an older blanket or something to cover the seats.

Drive this car to a job, save your money, keep it running with the cash you kept back. Keep up on BRAKES, Fluids and tires in that order, gas last. You have no appreciation for brakes... until they fail and you are in an ambulance, there is no substitute suitable while the embankment approaches at 60mph.

What I have described is heartbreaking for a new driver. So here is another idea.

Spend every last dime on a Honda that somebody got a good start on hot rodding. You can then learn everything the previous owner learned as he tore this pile down dreaming of drifting his way to fortune and fame. The cracked subframes that need welded, the heads that are not the "good" ones, the computer and wiring harness have been in a smallish fire and usually work. Steering that is about shot, balljoints need replaced. Luckily though he already sprang for the sub woofers and amp and it sounds sweet sitting in the driveway since you can't afford to fix it enough to drive.

I did the second but it was a '67 Mustang GT learned a lot with that car both mechanically and life lesson wise. Oh, and paint is way more expensive than any of your friends will tell you. As an older lady used to tell me "A lesson bought is a lesson taught".

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Re: Looking for a first car
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2010, 09:46:17 AM »
I was expecting to get somethin hard to look at but easy to run I now think I should get something like that save up and until I get to 25 when insurance won't cost a billion dollars and get somthin nice 8)
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Re: Looking for a first car
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2010, 05:51:05 PM »
now you're talking...and listening.

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Re: Looking for a first car
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2010, 01:31:13 AM »
yep b-t-h that will work. eddiegjr
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Re: Looking for a first car
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2010, 03:42:02 AM »
A pickup truck or a Jeep is a good choice, usually simple to work on and good parts availability.  And the kind of girls that would dig a rugged outdoors type guy like yourself will "get it".

Jeeps in particular can be repaired forever, you can replace any part including the frame........ Probably by yourself, with a little help.  My boys and I rebuilt an 87, including rewiring and a lot of body work, new cam and lifters, new (different) carb, new seats... and they were 14 when we started and 16 when we finished.  Still have it (they are 22 now, one in Afghanistan and one in graduate school, left it with me for "safe keeping"...)

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Re: Looking for a first car
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2010, 04:14:13 AM »
Cementing a friendship - working on automobiles together.  Defining moments.  Father, son, friend, neighbor.  Passing on the knowledge.  If this was easy anybody could do it.  The first time EVERYTHING is impossible.  After that, it's like riding a bike...you never forget how.

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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2010, 02:45:16 AM »
Yes, the first time, everything was impossible.

I grew up working on cars, but by the time my boys were born I was driving new company cars.  They never saw me pick up a wrench til we bought the Jeep.  They thought I was crazy, sometimes.

I told them that I knew more good auto mechanics that spent time in prison than in Princeton (which is true, by the way), anyone can learn with a little help and a lot of self-application.

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Re: Looking for a first car
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2010, 03:02:36 AM »
Toyota Tacoma is the way to go.
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