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Offline rdnzl

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First TC
« on: July 25, 2010, 09:00:12 PM »
I've never owned a Thompson Center product until now.

It's an Encore Pro Hunter with 300 Win mag barrel, and Trijicon Accupoint 22G 2.5-10X 56mm scope.





Hunting season isn't TOO far off.......

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Re: First TC
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2010, 10:51:52 PM »
Spendy  ;D
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Re: First TC
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2010, 12:32:40 AM »
Nice looking rifle.

I'm quite pleased with my 300 Win. Mag. barrel.  So far, this load has accounted for 3 racoons in the 200 plus yard range and a deer at 298 yards.

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Re: First TC
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2010, 03:30:04 PM »
I find the "modular" concept of these to be very interesting. It probably WILL be expensive. A varmint caliber will be next.......

This scope is pretty special. I've looked through MANY expensive scopes, and this is right "up there". 

I've been told that these stocks will drastically reduce recoil.  I don't mind recoil, I've always had big thumpers, but it will be interesting to see how well it works.

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Re: First TC
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2010, 05:03:48 PM »
Welcome to the insanity!!! ;D
They are great guns

Enjoy


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Re: First TC
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2010, 05:08:41 PM »
Here's the company line on the stock....

FlexTech® TECHNOLOGY

Rifles have become unmanageable to shoot with today’s magnum muzzleloading charges and ultra magnum cartridges. T/C has tamed these hard pounding rifles with their new FlexTech® stock system. T/C’s Master Gunmakers teamed up with Limbsaver® who is known for their recoil reduction technology to develop a process to absorb shock and vibration. The FlexTech® stock (patent-pending) by T/C lessens felt recoil by 43% and absorbs the harmful recoil and vibration that punishes the shooter and damages or looses scopes. It incorporates four synthetic recoil absorbing arches that operate similar to a leaf spring. This creates a crush zone that allows the stock to compress during the recoil process. Each coil is unique in length allowing them to cancel different pitches and frequencies created during the shot. Every shooter’s style and body type is different. The FlexTech® system with patented NAVCOM™ material conforms to your shoulder and puts 50% more shock-absorbing material against your shoulder to disperse the recoil.

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Re: First TC
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2010, 07:05:38 PM »
Nice looking rifle.

I'm quite pleased with my 300 Win. Mag. barrel.  So far, this load has accounted for 3 racoons in the 200 plus yard range and a deer at 298 yards.

Dang!  I know raccoons are tough, but they must be beasts in your neck of the woods if they take a .300 Win. Mag. to drop them...

Very nice group, by the way.

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Re: First TC
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2010, 08:30:06 PM »
I've never owned a Thompson Center product until now.

It's an Encore Pro Hunter with 300 Win mag barrel, and Trijicon Accupoint 22G 2.5-10X 56mm scope.

Hunting season isn't TOO far off.......

Have you fed it any ammo yet?  Curious if the belt will hang-up on the extractor?  Others have had problems with the belted magnum cartridges and had to slightly bend the extractor for it to clear.

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Re: First TC
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2010, 03:20:41 AM »
The way you deal with the belt is to turn the cartridge whilst inserting it; the cartridge will go in with no muss, no fuss.  There is no need to bend extractors.

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Re: First TC
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2010, 06:09:48 AM »
The way you deal with the belt is to turn the cartridge whilst inserting it; the cartridge will go in with no muss, no fuss.  There is no need to bend extractors.

Why do you need to turn the cartridge while inserting it if the extractor isn’t a worry?  You should be able to insert it without turning, just as any other cartridge.

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Re: First TC
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2010, 01:21:25 PM »
No, you don't inserted a belted cartridge just like any other cartridge.  You also don't bend the extractor.  Really, it's easy.  While inserting a cartridge with your right hand (if right handed), merely twist the cartridge slightly in a clockwise direction and it goes right in.

If you don't like my answer, call T/C and see what they say.  Actually, when I had problems, I called T/C and that's what they said.

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Re: First TC
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2010, 06:12:20 PM »
No, you don't inserted a belted cartridge just like any other cartridge.  You also don't bend the extractor.  Really, it's easy.  While inserting a cartridge with your right hand (if right handed), merely twist the cartridge slightly in a clockwise direction and it goes right in.

If you don't like my answer, call T/C and see what they say.  Actually, when I had problems, I called T/C and that's what they said.

I have zero use for your information, but your guidance just might help others with the same problem.

I just knew there was an issue with belted case head cartridges and you confirmed it for me.

Thank you.
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Re: First TC
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2010, 06:18:14 PM »


Its simple. Just like he said. I tried it.  


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Re: First TC
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2010, 06:44:34 PM »


Its simple. Just like he said. I tried it. 



I am sure it is, but I don’t have any belted head case cartridges.  I have zero issues with rimmed or rimless cartridges which is what I use in my Encore.

Thanks again,
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Re: First TC
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2010, 06:46:56 PM »
I don't see your point. Its a non issue.


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Re: First TC
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2010, 08:22:02 PM »
I don't see your point. Its a non issue.



I am glad if it works for you.

My point is rimless or rimmed cartridges don’t need to be rotated.  If the belted magnum cartridge needs to be rotated then it’s an issue, problem or just different too me.

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Re: First TC
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2010, 08:23:04 PM »
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Re: First TC
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2010, 09:17:40 PM »
Here are some posts about belted case issue with extractors that others have had in the past.

300 win magnum & extractor
http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,156712.msg1098682313/topicseen.html#msg1098682313

Encore ejector/extractor snaggs belted cases.
http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,132959.msg1098500847/topicseen.html#msg1098500847

Extractor pin (?) and belted magnum ammo
http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,39365.msg223526/topicseen.html#msg223526

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Re: First TC
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2010, 12:02:19 AM »
What the hell is wrong with you?

What does it take to communicate with you?

Hello?

Hello?


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Re: First TC
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2010, 06:06:12 AM »
What the hell is wrong with you?

What does it take to communicate with you?

Hello?

Hello?



Here is a tip, using unkind words to someone on this site is not a good way to communicate. It’s OK if I don’t see things your way, because I have my own choices in this world as do you.

If you read the links I posted they clearly confirm my point to the subject I previously stated.

Have a great day.
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Re: First TC
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2010, 07:26:48 AM »
HERE's a tip:

You made your point quite some time ago. You have been beating a dead horse since then. Your intention seems to be to rub it in my face that you think my choice in rifle and caliber was a bad choice. 

It was shown that the issue you chose to beat into a pulp, is not a big deal at all. I don't understand WHY to won't just let it go. It is YOU who could learn how to behave, and not keep harping on something thats been covered already.

Please don't post ANY more links, trying to prove you point. It is POINTLESS to do so.  FYI, I DID call TC....guess what they told me....????

Thanks to everyone who chose to discuss my new rifle, and not harp on something over and over.

That said....I think my 2nd barrel will be a varmint caliber.  What do you guys recommend? 

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Re: First TC
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2010, 10:11:25 AM »
HERE's a tip:

You made your point quite some time ago. You have been beating a dead horse since then. Your intention seems to be to rub it in my face that you think my choice in rifle and caliber was a bad choice. 

It was shown that the issue you chose to beat into a pulp, is not a big deal at all. I don't understand WHY to won't just let it go. It is YOU who could learn how to behave, and not keep harping on something thats been covered already.

Please don't post ANY more links, trying to prove you point. It is POINTLESS to do so.  FYI, I DID call TC....guess what they told me....????

Thanks to everyone who chose to discuss my new rifle, and not harp on something over and over.

That said....I think my 2nd barrel will be a varmint caliber.  What do you guys recommend? 
Don’t take others ideas or beliefs you see on forums personally, they are just someone views.  I never said you made a bad choice in rifle and caliber, so attempting to twist my words into something that is clearly untrue is not good.  I have owned my T/C Encore since 1997 and it’s in my opinion the best single shot break open pistol/rifle combination system on the market for the price, but not to forget the venerable T/C (G2) Contender.

I am free to post whatever I feel and you have no control over it, so I will continue to do so in the future.  I have learned many years ago to humbly agree to disagree, and/or take or leave it.

OK moving on.

Varmint cartridges for the Encore here are the proven few:
204 Ruger
223 Remington
22-250 Remington
243 Winchester
25-06 Remington

I use a 24” 223 Remington barrel for my T/C Encore and it has proven to be very accurate.  I have shot my hand loads using 45, 50, 55, and 60 grain bullets with H4198, H4895, and IMR-3031 powders.

Take care,
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Re: First TC
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2010, 11:53:25 AM »
I think my 2nd barrel will be a varmint caliber.  What do you guys recommend?

I think that would be between the 204 Ruger, the 223 Remington and the 22-250 Remington.  If you don't reload, the 223 probably gives you the most choices.  Of the 3, my choice would be the 22-250 with more power, better wind bucking ability and better range.  Fortunately, I don't have to make the agonizing choice of which one since I have all three.

Of course, any accurate rifle is good for varmints.  My 300 Win. Mag. does a great job on groundhogs and racoons.  The 243 Winchester and 25/06 Remington cartridges are also excellent but could be classified more like big game cartridges than dedicated varmint cartridges per se.

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Re: First TC
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2010, 12:01:02 PM »
I'm leaning toward the 22-250.  I'm unfamiliar with the 204. How do they compare?

BTW...yooper, you are going on IGNORE. Bye now.



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Re: First TC
« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2010, 06:57:56 PM »
I have a confirmed 300 yards porcupine kill with my 223 Remington Encore setup.

I considered the 22-250 Remington, but I have that covered in a bolt action.

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Re: First TC
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2010, 02:25:44 AM »
That said....I think my 2nd barrel will be a varmint caliber.  What do you guys recommend? 

Do .243 Winchester and 6mm Remington count as varmint calibers?  If so, they'll do everything Grumulkin attributed to the .22-250, but even better.  They also give you double duty varmint/deer capability in case you're ever inclined to have such. 

What sort of varmints do you intend to use it on?  If you're looking to take fur, something .17 caliber is an excellent choice.  If you're wanting to explode prairie dogs, .22-250, .220 Swift, or one of the aforementioned 6mms would be excellent choices.  "Varmint caliber" is a pretty broad category...

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Re: First TC
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2010, 02:40:12 AM »
I'm leaning toward the 22-250.  I'm unfamiliar with the 204. How do they compare?

The 22-250 has better range, more variety of bullets but a bit more recoil and muzzle blast.  If you've been shooting a 300 Win. Mag., the latter two won't matter much to you.  The 22-250 can also serve as a deer rifle.  The 204 Ruger uses less powder.  I like them both but if I had to choose between the two, it would be the 22-250.

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Re: First TC
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2010, 07:30:57 AM »
Of all the choices, what calibers would it actually be prudent to buy one of the 15 inch barrels?  

....and what the heck is a Katahdin?




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Re: First TC
« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2010, 03:22:06 PM »
I expect you won't like hearing this either, but for your own good please research changing between rifle and pistol prior to spending the money.  There are many opinions, but one only one that really counts is BTAF.  They have a problem with switching from one to the other. 
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Re: First TC
« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2010, 03:27:13 PM »
The 15 inch barrels are rifle barrels, as listed. They should be OK, right?

I've read many articles on the handgun/rifle anomaly.  Its all pretty silly, but rules are rules. Laws are laws.