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Offline JO1

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« on: November 30, 2003, 02:54:51 PM »
ive heard a number of people talk about hunting hogs with knives and spears. how is this done? i know that some use dogs, is there any other way that people do this?  im new to the site-seems like a great thing you guys have here. thanks for any replies.

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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2003, 03:39:36 AM »
If you get a chance, check out the texas boars site.  Those guys do this all the time and are real experts on this.  I will do one of these someday, but I think I should do at least 1 more handgun or bow hunt as prep.

Basically dogs run out into fields.  If hunter/guide has an atv, they follow on that - if not they run after dogs.  If dogs catch wind of hog, they chase hog.  Again, if hunter/guide has an atv, they follow on that - if hot they run.  At some point the hog usually decides it's had enough of this running crap, or gets corner and then turns to fight the dogs.  The dogs circle it at which point 2 of the older, better trained dogs move in to grab the ears of the hog (I think they're called "holders" - I could be wrong).  The hunter then moves in to either make a thrust behind the shoulder into the vitals (being carefull not to hurt the dogs), or I've heard of some cutting the neck.  I don't know which is more effective.  That's kind of how it's supposed to go down.  

As an aside note, when humans hunt animals we make an effort to be as humane as possible.  When you are using dogs, they are animals - they have no humanity and are in no way "humane".  You gotta be ready for the natural violence that occurs when a dog is hunting the way a dog does.  There's not a single thing wrong with it - it's animals hunting the way nature intended, but we are so disconnected with the realities of the natural world in our daily life that the truth of it can upset our urban sensibilities.

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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2003, 04:56:27 PM »
sounds exciting-thanks for the response, it will be great to hear how it goes if you ever get a chance to go on one of these

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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2003, 10:35:30 AM »
You might try a search on this forum also. I know awhile back Jeff Gleason and some of his buddies went on a spear hunt for hogs and he wrote it up on here. I'm sure it can't be too far down the list. If a search doesn't find it just scroll back a page or two and look for a subject that suggests it is his. I think he posts as JeffG as best I remember.

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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2003, 10:39:28 AM »
It's very common here in Texas to hunt hogs with dogs.  Many times, the hogs are not killed, they are tied up, hauled out and sold to hunting ranches.  Once the hogs are done in this fasion, they are definitely wise and a heckuva challenge in the future!!!

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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2003, 06:03:01 AM »
Here, this link may help.  We didn't use dogs, but if you do use somebody with dogs, always ask questions as to proper manners with the dogs. And don't forget to thank and appreciate the handlers, tips are welcome! You will have a great time either way!

http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=17439  :D
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2003, 06:09:48 PM »
thanks for the replies-lots of interesting info

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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2003, 06:28:56 AM »
This guy did it at the Bowguns lodge.  I don't know the story behind it.

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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2003, 06:43:02 AM »
Yea! That's good stuff!! :D
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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2003, 11:27:42 AM »
this guy brings agroup in january he is hunting this year on the 17 th they come from ohio,florida,indinana,georgia,utah,delaware and ark. lots of fun if you are BRAVE enough to get close enough they choose to hunt like wolfs(in pack)BUT NOT FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2003, 04:24:08 PM »
Holy Cow Jeff G....  I just read your other thread about hunting w/ a group of guys "wolf pack" style w/ spears....  I'm salivating....  I've got to get a group of guys together to try that.

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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2003, 05:19:34 PM »
It is very revealing.  Without getting too deep, it is very primal and savage.  You start to realize that our ancestors didn't hunt for fun, they hunted to survive! It bonds hunters together, and really helps you to understand the long road back we as hunters have travelled.
Obviously, getting in shape is important, but more importantly, mindset: let yourself become....primitive.  I think you will love it.  The memories of a hunt like that are so rich, and stay sharp for a long time.  Good hunting!! :D
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2003, 12:54:02 AM »
He he he....  Getting primal is one thing that is certainly no problem for me.  Matter of fact, I'm just gonna have to forge a primal spearhead for one of these...

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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2003, 09:11:49 AM »
Oh, I'm gettin' the picture, now!! :grin:  Ain't it cool!?  Have fun, let us know about your quest!! JeffG :D
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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2003, 11:23:45 AM »
Here is a pic of the spear hunting pack at Bowguns


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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2003, 12:47:01 PM »
Yesterday, while watching football with an old friend from Cape Coral, Florida, he went into great detail , how the locals hunted Hogs with dogs, and slit their throats.  I was doubtful, but , I believe it now!! 8)

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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2003, 12:25:19 PM »
I would like to see someone pounce on a 300 pound russian and cut his throat.  I bet the guys name is lefty or pegleg Pete.

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« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2003, 12:32:11 PM »
For knife hunting, It's all in the DAWGS! We are out here, look at this!  http://www.lightfootknives.com/wildboar.html
Later!  JeffG :D
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« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2003, 01:20:34 PM »
Cool site.  Jeff do you hunt hogs that way?

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« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2003, 01:38:56 PM »
No, I haven't.  I would likely enjoy it.  But the "wolf pack" consisting of friends is great! :D
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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2003, 04:50:00 AM »
knife hunting is a big rush but wolf pack hunting is awesome it is man and friends  against beast they are doing it january 17th red hawk if you wish to see will warn you though not for everyone!!!!!!! for that hunt we use no dogs......

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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2003, 07:19:52 AM »
Hey Dave will they let me slow it down for them with my 44?

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« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2003, 07:23:52 AM »
they may put you on the offense side