6.5 Grendel

[jamaldog87]

I got my wolf band ammo catalog and i was they load 6.5 Grendel. What is it?  It listed as *Multi-Purpose Tactical and at Alexander Arms it says it a lightweight varmint,competition, and ideal for longer range, tactical shooting.  it also says "Compared to the 5.56 the 6.5 Grendel® with roughly twice the lead mass gives you the potential for twice the mass of fragments, and if maximum fragmentation is coincident with maximum temporary cavity, the terminal ballistics are quite convincing indeed all in a package that shoots flatter, with 50% less felt recoil than 7.62 NATO M80 ball. "

 it really going to become the new NATO round for the US?

[GregP42]

Look here http://www.65grendel.com/forum/

[Doe]

No  because they know that the 308 works just find  . and the 6.8 will not replace the 223 eather

[jamaldog87]

I know the M24 Sniper Weapon System  is going to 300win mag for the war in  Afghanistan(needed more range and power for the fighting there).   saw the story in popular mechanics. story  here http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/weapons/anatomy-of-an-m24-remington-bolt-action-rifle?click=main_sr

[jamaldog87]

ARMY SNIPERS GO TO .300 WIN MAG
 
U.S. Army 2009 solicitation for a M24 reconfiguration

The U.S. Army put out a solicitation in May 2009 for reconfiguring M24 Sniper Weapon Systems currently available in Army inventory consisting of a:

* Rebarreling/rechambering the SWS's barrel optimized to accommodate Mk 248 (DODIC A191) .300 Winchester Magnum ammunition.

* Replacement of existing weaver rails with a MIL-STD-1913 rail capable of accommodating both a day optic and in-line forward mounted, AN/PVS-26 (NSN 5855-01-538-8121) image intensified (I2) night vision device.

* Reconfiguring the stock with a stock that incorporates a detachable box magazine, adjustable comb and length of pull.

* Addition of a detachable sound suppressor as well as any necessary barrel modifications required for a sound suppressor interface.

* Replacement of the existing day optic sight (DOS) and rings with an Army specified variable power day optic and compatible rings.


For snipers, every war is different. Recognizing the differences between conditions in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Army is now selecting a contractor to upgrade the 22-year-old Remington bolt-action rifle to become a more effective killing machine. The Army will pour about $5.6 million into upgrades to the M24, with the new gear expected to be delivered to troops by this fall. The M24's barrel is being modified to shoot heavier .300 Winchester Magnum rounds, instead of the 7.62mm NATO ammunition, which should extend the rifle's maximum effective range by hundreds of yards to a maximum of about 1400 yards. The suppressor will reduce the noise and flash of the gun so snipers can stay in their hiding positions much longer after they fire.

[Win 1917]

it really going to become the new NATO round for the US?

I think that's just marketing hype.

[243dave]

I don't know how you can change a 308 to a 300 win mag in the remington 700 series rifles.  You can't.  A simple barrel change won't cut it.  A 308(or 7.62 NATO) is a short action and a 300 requires a long action due to its length.  So the action won't work unless the m-24 is built on a long action in the first place(I don't think it is but I may be wrong).  A bolt will need to be replaced with a long action one with a magnum face.  A suppressor is long over due for a sniper rifle and the military ought to think of putting them on all of their m-4's also.  Seems to me 5.6 million won't go vary far especially when it sounds as if you'll be dropping several thousand into each rifle.

[jamaldog87]

to me they should have gone 300win a long time ago.