Buckskin,
the original intent was for 4 of us to do a group app, but it turned into separate apps. basically just luck of the draw that we missed. group app we would have succeeded.
I did'nt have any points at all; it's been 6 years since I went last. Established groups hate to add a "newbie" and I don't like going it alone. but this time I got to go even if I spend it all just watching 'em go by.
JD