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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #120 on: July 25, 2011, 09:58:03 AM »
There doesn't appear to be any SPECIFIC point to this thread, other than to say whatever you want to say about the .30-06, so that is how I'm going to play it.
 
I did not get into hunting big game until my father died and left me his guns when I was about 48 years old.  I had pheasant hunted in Illinois growing up on a farm, but hadn't done that for many years.  With the guns -- .25-06 and a .30-06 -- I started deer hunting.  I elk hunted in Colorado in 2006, 2009 (first elk, 4 point bull), and will return again this October for elk first rifle season.  Love it.  I remember as a kid, however, reading hunting magazines and books and developing the distinct judgment that the .30-06 was an old fuddy-duddy, over-the-hill cartridge now shuffling along unsteadily in the dusty wake of more modern and excellent cartridges.
 
That is so funny, because now I have largely convinced myself that the .30-06 is pretty close to being a perfect cartridge.  It doesn't shoot as flat as other cartridges.  Point recognized and granted.  But this probably is not an issue until you are shooting over 300 yards.  How many among us has any business shooting over 300 yards?  Can you reliably put 3 shots in a paper plate shooting from a field position -- not a bench -- at a uncertain distance of 300 yards (could be 280 yards, could be 330 yards)?  It doesn't shoot as heavy bullets or deliver as much energy as some other cartridges.  Again, point granted, but to what extent does this have a practical importance when hunting elk, moose, black bear, and smaller game at ethical ranges -- for the average hunter?  Does a .338 Winchester magnum shooting a 250 grain bullet kill an elk deader at 200 yards than a 180 grain bullet shot from a .30-06?  You get the picture.  So, it is funny that what I once disparaged I now appreciate.
 
I like to use my .25-06 for deer of pronghorn.  I have a hankering for a .338 winchester magnum . . . just because I have hankering for one.  I have two .30-06 rifles.  One is a Springfield sporterized by my father that looks and shoots very sweetly.  Another is a Remington ADL with a synthetic stock bought cheap at a grand opening of a Bass Pro Shop.  The ADL is my back-up rifle on all hunts.  If the primary rifle gets banged up and I'm 1200 miles from home on a hunt, the ADL can fill the bill.  If it is raining outside and I don't want to take my pretty wood stocked rifles out, the ADL gets the call.  Because it is chambered in .30-06, it is not a niche rifle and can be used for any hunting I'm going to do (I'm not a grizzly bear hunter or brown bear hunter).  I put a good scope on the ADL -- nearly twice as expensive as the rifle -- because while a cheap rifle can shoot straight and true, you still need a good sighting system to get you there.
 
Anyway, I'm a fan of the .30-06, though I'm also happy there are other rifles. I'm not a mono-gun-mous shooter.

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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #121 on: July 25, 2011, 02:56:22 PM »
I've own several 30/06 rifles it's good cartridge, and will handle any thing that North American can throw at it.
The 06 has a well deserved long lived sterling reputation that very few cartridges will ever obtain in fact it is only limited by the shooter.
The only reasons that one does not own an 06 is personal preference , lack of funds, or they are still looking for one.
All of those reasons are legit, but attaching faults and limits to such a fine cartridge is pure BS.
I do not currently own an 06 ,but I will as soon as I find that that perfect for me Garand , 1917, or 03A3.
The reason I'm not looking for a hunting rifle in 06 is purely personal preference.

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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #122 on: July 26, 2011, 04:56:55 AM »
The only reasons that one does not own an 06 is personal preference , lack of funds, or they are still looking for one. All of those reasons are legit, but attaching faults and limits to such a fine cartridge is pure BS.

+1. It'll hit accurately and kill far beyond what I should be shooting at game.
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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #123 on: July 26, 2011, 05:09:26 AM »
The only reasons that one does not own an 06 is personal preference , lack of funds, or they are still looking for one. All of those reasons are legit, but attaching faults and limits to such a fine cartridge is pure BS.

+1. It'll hit accurately and kill far beyond what I should be shooting at game.
Correct and Correct again!  I will never be without a 30-06.  It was the second centerfire I ever owned.  And that is only because I got a 30-30 as a gift.  The reason I bought my '06 was because it is clearly the most versatile cartridge on the planet.  Someday, I hope to give my son my 30-06 (so I can buy a new one).
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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #124 on: July 26, 2011, 05:56:18 AM »
The .30-06 Springfield is as American as apple pie.  Fine cartridge and capable of killing anything in North America.  I do not own one as I do not have a need for one.  The largest game animal I hunt are Missouri whitetail deer.  I feel there are better cartridges for this job.  I prefer the .308 Win, 7mm-08 Rem, or .243 Win.  They are all deer slaying cartridges with a lot less recoil than the .30-06.  Less recoil means less flinching... resulting in better placement. 
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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #125 on: July 26, 2011, 05:58:01 AM »
 
 
  The .30-06 is as truly classic, and truly mundane (boring), as a huge bowl of plain vanilla ice cream.

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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #126 on: July 26, 2011, 05:17:58 PM »

 
  The .30-06 is as truly classic, and truly mundane (boring), as a huge bowl of plain vanilla ice cream.

First you insult a fine cartridge then you malign the most popular favor of ice cream.
Go to your room young man  ;D

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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #127 on: July 26, 2011, 05:42:59 PM »
 I've had 3 traded all of them off for other rifles just haven't found one I liked enough to keep.
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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #128 on: July 26, 2011, 07:09:08 PM »
This is my .30-06 keeper. Stainless M-70 Sporter. I also have a synthetic stock for it.
I have no complaints about this one.
I would like to swap out the Burris scope for a Leupold though.........
 
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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #129 on: July 26, 2011, 08:56:37 PM »
if you really think about it the 06 is the most versatile gun all you need plus a good capable side arm.i used to have arguments about the 270 witch i have had both are pretty close don't know witch is best.gust need to get the right  gun that does the caliber justice. ;)

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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #130 on: July 27, 2011, 04:04:36 AM »
 I have had several 30.06 rifles through the years, gave a favorite one to a Missionary in South Africa back in mid '90s. I didn't get another 30.06 until it's 100th birthday ( our current configuration, not the old 1903 loading), 2006. It is a Remington 700 CDL, blueprinted, pillar bedded, Shilen trigger, 24" barrel. After break in, it shoots everything from Nosler 125BTs to Woodleigh 240RN! I just like having one around, even though I hunt with niche rifles more, my '06 is like a faithful dog..always there. :-*

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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #131 on: July 27, 2011, 05:07:17 AM »
  I recognized at an early age just how great the 30-06 cartridge really is, seeing much big game my dad took with one, moose, elk, bear, and too many whitetails to count, all went into our freezer!  To this day i still think it's the best all around cartridge ever invented!
 
  Over the years i drug this 30-06 all over the Alaskan bush,
 

 
  And at less than 7 pounds, it's a joy to carry!
 

 
  For longer shots, you just snap the 4x Zeiss on,
 

 
  And it's VERY accurate!  The 200NP is a fantastic bullet for the 30-06, and what i feel is the mininum for big bears,
 

 
  I could easily live with a 30-06 being my only big game cartridge for the rest of my life.
 
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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #132 on: July 27, 2011, 01:18:57 PM »
When you got a 30-06 it is really difficult to justify getting anything else. Therefore don't buy one ! ;)
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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #133 on: July 27, 2011, 01:24:39 PM »
D.M. that's a beautiful rifle!
 
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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #134 on: August 04, 2011, 06:07:23 AM »
My .30 gun is a .308.  It comes very close to the '06 except with really heavy bullits in everything and is a little less punishing.  The other big reason is I like the short action.  I am shooting a HOWA 20" Ranchland but will be going to a little heavier barrel, same length soon.
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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #135 on: August 04, 2011, 06:14:25 AM »
When you got a 30-06 it is really difficult to justify getting anything else. Therefore don't buy one ! ;)

I think scatterbrain has come up with the best reason yet, to NOT have a 30-06... :)
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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #136 on: August 04, 2011, 07:00:21 PM »
I think it's just a matter of need !
I don't shoot big game, and I have a .308 . A great cartridge, and versatile.
I shoot from 110grs - 185grs, without excessive recoil.
Potential excessive recoil has always been something I've associated with the 30/06.
To shoot heavier/more velocity, then obviously the next step to consider would be 30/06,
and then probably a Magnum, e.g. .300 H&H,
but there are many choices.
I'm more a traditionalist rather than a chaser of modern fads.
If I needed to shoot something dangerous I would probably start at .375 H&H.
Here are the .30 cal Magnum choices;
The 30/06 looks a bit skinny against the big boys !  :)
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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #137 on: August 04, 2011, 07:46:36 PM »
Because I can't find a early 1903 Springfield that is AFFORDABLE, oh wait I forgot about my Rem 742 guess I do still own one.  Still looking for the 1903 though ::)

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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #138 on: August 05, 2011, 06:06:56 AM »
Because I can't find a early 1903 Springfield that is AFFORDABLE,

Keep looking!  There are reasonably priced ones out there.  Unless you are talking about one still in military dress...  :-\  In that case, well... to bad.   :(  I've got mine!   ;D
 
But, like I say you can find S'fields that were formally owned by Bubba and suffered his "gunsmithing" exploits.  I got a 1921 03A1 in great condition that is now my 338-06.
 
Oh.  As a 30-06 it killed deer just fine with my favorite 165 gr. '06 load.  Just like every other 30-06 made!   :D
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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #139 on: August 05, 2011, 07:05:09 AM »
  I don't own one because i loaned mine to what i thought was a friend who wanted to borrow it to go on a bear hunt. Never seen the guy or the gun again. :( No big lose. My 270 does everything i want it to do. ;D   I don't loan guns or anything else any more.

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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #140 on: August 05, 2011, 12:26:01 PM »
  I don't think i've ever owned a bad shooting 30-06, but then again, they didn't all shoot this good either,
 

 
  And i've put a LOT of caribou meat in my freezer with that load/gun,
 

 
  These days i don't hunt much with a 30-06, but that doesn't change the fact it's an amazing all around cartridge.
 
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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #141 on: August 05, 2011, 04:25:12 PM »
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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #142 on: August 05, 2011, 05:39:21 PM »
My 280 Remington, IS MY, 30/06!!!!!!
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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #143 on: August 25, 2011, 01:15:40 PM »
Heck,I thought everybody that had over three rifles had an '06.............
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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #144 on: August 25, 2011, 04:58:57 PM »
I currently own 2 bolt action hi-powered rifles----both are chambered in .30-06.

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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #145 on: August 27, 2011, 02:40:31 AM »
Oh, but I do.......... owned it for  about 60 years now.     
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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #146 on: September 02, 2011, 01:21:26 PM »
I have a couple of 30-06's but to be honest once I got my new 35 Whelen I think they are going to collect dust lol. And yes the 35 Whelen is improved over the 30-06 :).

Next is a 358 Winchester. But I am thankful for the 30-06 and .308 parent cases to make these wonderful  cartridges possible. :)

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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #147 on: September 02, 2011, 02:22:39 PM »
Beacause I own a 35Whelen
 
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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #148 on: September 02, 2011, 02:23:02 PM »
I hunt Wisconsin and Minnesota once. I only hunted deer and bear.  A 30-06 kicks an awful lot. I went with a .270 Win. and am happy with them. Little less bullet, little less cost. If I did it all over I'd just go with a .257 Roberts for deer and a 444 Marlin for bear.    For deer it just seems way over kill. I do think it is the most efficient caliber there is. I can get 30-06 cases for 5 bucks per 100 bag at the gun range. Faster burning powder = less powder burned. Bullets are everywhere.

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Re: why don't you own a 30-06?
« Reply #149 on: September 02, 2011, 06:36:55 PM »
cuz I like the 308 better........... :P