22-250 14 twist what will work for deer

[Deerhunter#1]

Well just figured out why the 64 grain win powe points i have been trying to load are flying so bad. The rifle i bought was advertized to have a 10 twist but it is really a 14 twist. Well what bullet has anyone used with success on deer. was thinking 60 grain hornady sp, 55 grain rem cl. Dont knoe if the nos 60 grain part will work as it is a lit long. Another option I quess is the barnes 53 grain tsx but they are expensive. Any reults would be great
 

[jebb45]

Deerhunter....

     The 60 gr Hornady will work, just have to place your shot(massive meat damage) if you don't. The jacket is on the thin side. I have used the 64 gr Winchester for several years. They have worked great for me. I only take a broadside heart shot, and loose very little meat. It will
blood shock a lot of meat if you place the bullet in the wrong place. Anything below 60 grs, try the Barnes 55 gr. "XLT". It should work.

jebb45

[dave29]

Man, that 14 twist is gonna kill you in bullet choices. I doubt that you will stabilize much over 50 grains with that twist.

[PowPow]

I get <1/2" groups from 55 gr Sierra Game Kings in my 1:14 22-250 with a max load of H380.
They are billed as a thicker jacketed bullet suitable for deer.
That's what I intend to use this fall.

[Thebear_78]

45gr Barnes TSX is one of the few that will stabilize in a 14 twist.

[PowPow]

I also got pretty good accuracy out of 63 gr Sierras and 70 gr Speers in my 1:14 22-250, but those are thin-jacketed varmint bullets.
The 65 gr Sierra Gameking tumbled at 25 yds.

[Wyo. Coyote Hunter]

  #1, While they my not shoot in your rifle, I have shot 64 grain WW in all of my 1-14 twist 22 cal. rifles from 222 thought my .220 Swift. accuracy is excellent...this has been the std. twist for years...so the serria 63 will work also..but it is a bit soft...I shot the 60 grain Nosler Part. in either my .22-250 or the Improved...again acc. was excellent..Now for these heavy bullets inthe large cases, I uses a heavy load of IMR 4350...I don't know if that is a key thing or not, but it has worked in every big .22 cal. I have owned since 1978 when I started shooting 63 grain Serria...much of this stuff is passed on with out trying...these two bullets are my favorite for killing turkey with the 222 and 223...both are 1-14 twist and handle the 63 and 64 grain fine..you might try 4350 or the 60 grain Nosler Part. I still have a few, but for most whitetails, the 64 worked fine...I took mostly high shoulder shots or lung shots..the last deer I killed with these bullets were with a .22-250 IMproved and the range was less than one hundred yards...Last winter I shot a big coyote at almost 300 yards with the 64 grain out of the Improved...they have been very accurate...maybe give a slower powder a try...it pretty well fills the case, but with a heavy bullet speeds are around 3400fps.

[rhbrink]

The Sierra 55 grain SBT Gameking No.1365 shoots great in any 22-250 or 220 Swift that I have shot it in. Only used it for coyotes though, The 63 gr SMP No. 1370 just shoots OK 1 1/2" groups at 100yds. Might be Ok for deer hunting, don't know. Never had any luck with the 60 gr. Hornady in a 14" twist. I think the real issue is not the weight so much as it is the length of the bullet. Have read a lot of good reports on both the Nosler 60 gr. and the Winchester 64 gr.

[poncaguy]

I don't know, but if Barnes makes a TTSX, they wold work. I know they make the TSX  45 through 70 grain, I would try their 55 TSX.........

[ShottieMan]

Nosler 60 grain partition! Built to work in the slower twists.

[223fan]

I've killed several deer with 55gr. Remington soft points,they seemed to work well enough.

[trotterlg]

The solids are long for their weight, so go with a lead core bullet, find a heavy (probably 60gr Round Nose) and drive it fast.  A 14 twist will make a 55gr stable easily, and 60's and more if they are short RN types.  Just because they don't shoot well does not mean they are not stable, if they are unstable they will keyhole, it they are not doing that, then the load is just not right for the rifle and bullet combo.  You will find the best accuracy when a bullet is just barely stable, ask the Bench Rest folks.  Larry

[Lloyd Smale]

There worth a try in your 22250. If they will shoot theres no finer whitetail .223 bullet.

Nosler 60 grain partition! Built to work in the slower twists.

[Masterblaster1]

55 grain Trophy Bonded Bear Claw, pricey, but may be worth a look. In the Lyman 49th reloading manual there is a picture of this bullet that went end to end through a ram. Sounds like it would be the ticket.

[sjf]

I've gotten great accuracy with the sierra 63 smp in my 1/14" twist barrels, I've also take many deer and antelope with that bullet, it works very well when put into the lungs.

[dpe.ahoy]

sjf, I see 3-7-77, are ya MHP?  DP

[Savage_99]

Don't hunt deer with a .22.  Find some other larger rifle for deer hunting.

[ShottieMan]

Don't hunt deer with a .22.  Find some other larger rifle for deer hunting.

Don't believe the OP asked what caliber he should use!!!!! 

[poncaguy]

223 are legal in Oklahoma though I don't use one, I would the 22-250, but use my 7-08 or 270/270WSM most.

[Lloyd Smale]

Ive killed quite a few deer with .22 centerfires and the only problems ive ever encountered with them is when using 55 grain varmit bullets and even then ive yet to not recover a deer shot with one. Ive shot a couple with the nosler partitions and can say at 200 yards or less i cant tell the differnce in a deer hit with one of them and one hit with a 243. Ive got complete penetration every time and a huge wound channel and a fifty cent peice sized exit hole. If we were talking 500 lb elk it would be another story but how much gun do you really think you need for a 100 lb whitetail. Proper bullet  selection and shot placement are much more important then which caliber you pick.

[Coyote Hunter]

I wonder how many deer and other game have been lost with a bad hit from a 300 Win Mag? Or a 3006, or 7mm Rem Mag, or any of the others. It's kinda like sky diving. Sometimes it works, and occasionally it doesn't.

Personal choice in caliber, is just that. If it works for someone, it is the right choice regardless of caliber.  ...

There have undoubtedly been many deer and other animals lost with “a bad hit from a 300 Win Mag? Or a 3006, or 7mm Rem Mag, or any of the others”. 

That said, I can say with 100% confidence that I’ve seen more game lost to a .243 Win, the smallest big game cartridge allowed in Colorado, than to any other cartridge - and probably more than all others combined.  I’m reasonably certain that in some of those cases a heavier bullet would have provided much more satisfactory results even with identical placement.  Even though small, lightweight bullets can be very effective in the right circumstances., they can be dismal failures in others.

If I was loading up my 14-twist .22-250 for deer I’d use one of the new 50g TSX and I’d drive it fast, around 3800fps - and I’d still limit my shots to around 200 yards.  If I had a faster twist I’d probably run the 60g Partition.

By contrast, I have no qualms using my .257 Roberts with 110g AccuBonds @ 3163fps out past 500 yards, where they still have adequate velocity (2133fps), more momentum (1.5x) and more energy (1111fpe vs. 860fpe) than the above load for the .22-250.

Just because a choice works for someone once doesn’t mean it is a good choice for that person, let alone others.  When a choice works consistently for a person it is a better choice than one that is inconsistent, but still not necessarily a good choice.  I tend to put .22 centerfires in that category as I’ve seen some pretty unsatisfactory results on coyotes, which are much smaller than our Colorado deer.  Let’s just say I consider a .22 centerfire a better choice for an expert than a novice, which is the same way I feel about a .243 Win for Colorado elk.

[Coyote Hunter]

55 grain Trophy Bonded Bear Claw, pricey, but may be worth a look. In the Lyman 49th reloading manual there is a picture of this bullet that went end to end through a ram. Sounds like it would be the ticket.

Good luck finding any.  Speer took the Trophy Bonded bullets off the component market.

[sjf]

DP, sorry for the slow reply been kinda busy lately, MHP yup 21+ yrs