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Re: What should his punishment be ?
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2010, 02:05:55 AM »
Hey Sourdough;
  that's news to me..howcum I never heard anything about it? Being as he "loathed the military", why would he bother meddling with their judicial system?
   But then, why would he meddle with some bimbo intern wearing a blue dress? :D ;D
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Re: What should his punishment be ?
« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2010, 04:26:27 AM »
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But then, why would he meddle with some bimbo intern wearing a blue dress? 




IG. That blue dress is now displayed proudly at the DNC headquarters, kinda like a badge of honor to the dumcraps. It's right next to king bills smiling picture. POWDERMAN.  :D :D
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Re: What should his punishment be ?
« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2010, 11:23:53 AM »
Ironglow:  My wife Michelle spent 20 years in the Air Force as a Paralegal.  She is currently working for the Army as a Paralegal.  She knows all about the UCMJ and what is going on with the military justace system.  She told me Ronald Reagan reinstated the Death Penalty for the military.  In 1992 Michelle was assigned to the Pentagon, working for T-JAG (Air Force Judge Advacate General).  She told me one of the first things Wild Willie did was repeal the Death Penalty for the military.  She said since everyone was still in transition mode no one outside the military noticed when the change was made.
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Re: What should his punishment be ?
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2010, 02:09:44 AM »
Ironglow:  My wife Michelle spent 20 years in the Air Force as a Paralegal.  She is currently working for the Army as a Paralegal.  She knows all about the UCMJ and what is going on with the military justace system.  She told me Ronald Reagan reinstated the Death Penalty for the military.  In 1992 Michelle was assigned to the Pentagon, working for T-JAG (Air Force Judge Advacate General).  She told me one of the first things Wild Willie did was repeal the Death Penalty for the military.  She said since everyone was still in transition mode no one outside the military noticed when the change was made.

    MAN!... (shaking head)..That guy was even MORE of a disgrace than I always thought he was!
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Re: What should his punishment be ?
« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2010, 02:11:06 AM »
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But then, why would he meddle with some bimbo intern wearing a blue dress?  




IG. That blue dress is now displayed proudly at the DNC headquarters, kinda like a badge of honor to the dumcraps. It's right next to king bills smiling picture. POWDERMAN.  :D :D

   Yep! Probably right beside the pictures of Che Guvera and the Manchurian prez.

   It is not difficult to how a ivy league radical Marxist with sympathies for Islam would be interested to keep on pecking away at the very life and fiber of our nation...

     ..But how in the world did he get an entire political party to assist him in his task?
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Re: What should his punishment be ?
« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2010, 03:47:19 AM »
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But how in the world did he get an entire political party to assist him in his task?



Easy, he called himself a dumcrap. He holds all the same non values that the party loves. If castro called himself a dumcrap they would vote for him. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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Re: What should his punishment be ?
« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2010, 07:30:22 AM »

   It is not difficult to how a ivy league radical Marxist with sympathies for Islam would be interested to keep on pecking away at the very life and fiber of our nation...


Communism and fascist Islamic rule are polar opposites.  I think we need to pick one.  Personally, I think Obama is mostly ignorant of Islam and just says stupid crap trying to be PC.  I do, however, think he is a Communist and will be the downfall of our country.
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Re: What should his punishment be ?
« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2010, 08:18:41 AM »
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If castro called himself a dumcrap they would vote for him. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(

Scary how true that may be...........
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Re: What should his punishment be ?
« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2010, 12:46:40 PM »
I saw where wiki said they will publish more info from this traitor before the end of the month. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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Re: What should his punishment be ?
« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2010, 02:10:08 PM »
I'm a bit conflicted on this one.  I disagree with TM7 - I certainly DON'T think he's being setup.  He released the documents.  That said, I am very, VERY pro-open government.  There's a reason why we have the Freedom of Information Act.  There's a reason fascist governments like China seek to conceal all government actions from their citizens, and our own government has been going further and further down that road.  Virtually every investigation into government misconduct these days is being met merely with the response that "This is a matter of national security and cannot be investigated.".  TEMPORARY secrecy for the sheer sake of troop locations and such, then sure.  ANYTHING beyond a few months old though there should be no such thing as "classified".  The government is supposed to be by, for, and of WE THE PEOPLE.  Secrets should not be kept from the public.

So from that perspective, I can respect what Wikileaks does.  They drag out the ugly truth that governments (not just ours - they've published damning documents on German, Austrailian and other actions as well) don't want citizens to hear.  I support his actions, but at the same time, your actions lose all nobility if you're not truly facing consequences for them.  He released them, let him stand trial and be punished accordingly. 

BTW, the reason why Wikileaks has delayed releasing the extra documents is that they are processing them to expunge any information that they believe would endanger the lives of any informants.  They even asked the Whitehouse for help identifying this information and were shrugged off.  They're left best guessing it to clean it up themselves.

That said, the documents have already been published in an encrypted volume called "Insurance".  If anything happens to Julian Assange  (essentially the head figure of Wikileaks) the key will be distributed to decrypt the documents in their full unedited form.  He's also been working to shift parts of Wikileaks to Iceland, which recently passed legislation to protect such whistleblower sites.

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Re: What should his punishment be ?
« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2010, 05:55:30 PM »
Theres a big difference between the publics right to know, and info that will probably get Americans killed. There are some in the media that would print ANYTHING to get a story, knowing that it would breach security and or cause the loss of American lives, but then that in itself would be another story. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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Re: What should his punishment be ?
« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2010, 08:36:42 PM »
I'm a bit conflicted on this one.  I disagree with TM7 - I certainly DON'T think he's being setup.  He released the documents.  That said, I am very, VERY pro-open government.  There's a reason why we have the Freedom of Information Act.  There's a reason fascist governments like China seek to conceal all government actions from their citizens, and our own government has been going further and further down that road.  Virtually every investigation into government misconduct these days is being met merely with the response that "This is a matter of national security and cannot be investigated.".  TEMPORARY secrecy for the sheer sake of troop locations and such, then sure.  ANYTHING beyond a few months old though there should be no such thing as "classified".  The government is supposed to be by, for, and of WE THE PEOPLE.  Secrets should not be kept from the public.

So from that perspective, I can respect what Wikileaks does.  They drag out the ugly truth that governments (not just ours - they've published damning documents on German, Austrailian and other actions as well) don't want citizens to hear.  I support his actions, but at the same time, your actions lose all nobility if you're not truly facing consequences for them.  He released them, let him stand trial and be punished accordingly. 



Very good post sir. +1
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Re: What should his punishment be ?
« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2010, 03:37:19 AM »
  Secrets should not be kept from the public.


That is a stupid statement! I guess we should have published in the New York Times. the date, time of day and where we were going to invade on D day! What world do some of you dudes live in?
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Re: What should his punishment be ?
« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2010, 05:01:07 AM »
  Secrets should not be kept from the public.


That is a stupid statement! I guess we should have published in the New York Times. the date, time of day and where we were going to invade on D day! What world do some of you dudes live in?
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We live in a world where reading comprehension is important...  ::)


TEMPORARY secrecy for the sheer sake of troop locations and such, then sure. ANYTHING beyond a few months old though there should be no such thing as "classified". 

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Re: What should his punishment be ?
« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2010, 05:10:48 AM »
I am sure you would be amazed at what the enemy will learn from that "old" intelligence that wikileak is putting out. Yes it likely will get some of our troops killed! They should put a hit out on the wikileak dude and stand the army guy that gave him the info against a wall and shoot him.
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« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2010, 07:01:24 AM »
I'm sure you'd be amazed by what the Citizens of the US would learn from that "old" intelligence as well.  Secrecy is a balancing act between the need to protect our Constitution from foreign enemies, and the need to protect our Constitution from Domestic enemies.  Keep in mind that that that is the oath officers take.  It makes no sense to turn your back on either enemy.   
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Re: What should his punishment be ?
« Reply #46 on: August 15, 2010, 07:06:59 AM »
Just vote the democraps out and we won't have any domestic enemy's.
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Re: What should his punishment be ?
« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2010, 04:28:27 PM »

   It is not difficult to how a ivy league radical Marxist with sympathies for Islam would be interested to keep on pecking away at the very life and fiber of our nation...


Communism and fascist Islamic rule are polar opposites.  I think we need to pick one.  Personally, I think Obama is mostly ignorant of Islam and just says stupid crap trying to be PC.  I do, however, think he is a Communist and will be the downfall of our country.


   Reminder;
  The common slogan of Islamofacists; "the enemy of my enemy, is my friend"...
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« Reply #48 on: August 15, 2010, 04:37:49 PM »
  Secrets should not be kept from the public.


That is a stupid statement! I guess we should have published in the New York Times. the date, time of day and where we were going to invade on D day! What world do some of you dudes live in?
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  Beerbelly..Right On!!   Who appointed that little pipsqueak at Wikileaks as some kind of demigod who knows better than the combined G2 sections of all NATO, which classified info to release.
  I believe the G2 sections of the UK, Netherlands, Us, and other allies have a better grasp of what should remain classified..than some little
 puffed up queer with no military experience.
  Pfc Manning should face some .308s, and the tricky-wicki guy should get at least 20 years  when we can grab him. It's times like this that I sometimes wish the Democrats had not crippled the CIA.
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« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2010, 04:51:54 PM »
IRONGLOW, BEERBELLY. AGREED. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
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Re: What should his punishment be ?
« Reply #50 on: August 15, 2010, 05:55:12 PM »
If the PFC in question is a homo, he might enjoy Ft. Leavanworth. I still say paralize, blind deafen and cut his tongue out and leave him live in a world of darkness, silence and lack of feeling.
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Re: What should his punishment be ?
« Reply #51 on: August 16, 2010, 04:59:05 PM »
If the PFC in question is a homo, he might enjoy Ft. Leavanworth. I still say paralize, blind deafen and cut his tongue out and leave him live in a world of darkness, silence and lack of feeling.

   Yikes Billy!  ...you sure know how to hurt a fella.. ;) :D ;D  ..couldn't find a better candidate though :-*
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Re: What should his punishment be ?
« Reply #52 on: August 16, 2010, 05:06:26 PM »
Well it seems to me that we have come a long way since November 22, 1963. This government only fears freedom of speech and open and frank dissention, ie; Tea Parties. The big picture is that it does not fear the people only the ones that dare to protest its decisions.
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Re: What should his punishment be ?
« Reply #53 on: August 17, 2010, 04:55:35 AM »
When you have to pass through a medal detector to get into your local court house something is very wrong!