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Offline JBlk

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None of the above
« on: August 15, 2010, 04:44:02 AM »
Now that we are approaching another November voting cycle I would like to purpose a new change to all ballots.A third box should be added to each race.The box should read None of the above.In the event that the none of the above box gets the most votes then the canidates running for that office will automaticly be removed from the ballot and prohibited from running except as independents.I personally am fed up with the quality of canidates that both major parties have been endorsing and I feel that its time to take control of these employees.
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Re: None of the above
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2010, 09:45:57 AM »
I would like to see an option to give a POSITIVE vote to no one, to wave that right, and to actually take a point from a terd.  like instead of voting for bush instead of kerry, just take a vote from kerry.  same with mccain/obama. 
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Re: None of the above
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2010, 06:24:00 AM »
I'd much rather see ranked candidate voting.

Rather than vote for one person, you rank the candidates in order of preference. 

If 1 person isn't #1 for the majority of the vote, then the lowest person gets eliminated and the results recalculated.  Repeat until someone wins with a majority.  This would do a lot to help 3rd party candidates.

Alternatively, they could do it like they do the primaries in this state: If one person doesn't get a majority the first time through then the top two candidates come back a few weeks later for a runoff between just those two.
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Re: None of the above
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2010, 06:36:01 AM »
You guys already elected Obama are you going to do it again?
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Re: None of the above
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2010, 06:46:24 AM »
What election is Obama in this November?
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Re: None of the above
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2010, 08:17:17 AM »
It sounds like you're going to give the country to the dems again for the next 2.  Make no mistake Obama is on the ballot you just can't see him.
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Re: None of the above
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2010, 08:52:51 AM »
I have been using none of the above as a write in for a number of years. The thing I want to see is if there is an election dispute, is for the voting process to be repeated. There is NO need for a judge to determine the winner. By a judges very nature they will be swayed in their decisiion. It happened here in WA state with a judge appointing gregoire as governor the first term.
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Re: None of the above
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2010, 09:08:20 AM »
Fwiw, the election process that we commonly use in this country is an effect of most votes wins.  I do not advocate it, but some prefer a first past the post form of election.   they definitely help third party candidates.  I on the other hand support single senator filibuster in the Senate.  this means that NOTHING gets out of the Senate without consensus.  historically, these were Senate rules.
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Re: None of the above
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2010, 09:32:00 AM »
One additional thought, first past the post is 1 more step toward pure democracy, all of which are doomed to failure.  This is because of tyranny of the majority.   

Few realize in anymore, because such things are no longer taught, but we live in a republic.  We democratically elect our reps, but even  this breeds corruption.  Sometimes we have to stand for what is right.  What happens if some yahoo blocks legitimate legislation?  Well, he'll soon be exposed to his constituents at the polls. Founders had lots of stuff correct from the start.
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Re: None of the above
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2010, 04:30:24 PM »
I say we leave voting in the general election as is. What I do propose is a super super majority in the senate and congress to pass any bill into law. Say 90%. Gridlock is not a bad thing, a bill would have to be a darn good one to pass and that would only be good for our country and we citacens. The only change I would like to see in the general election is the elimination of the candidates party affiliation next to the name. Informed voters is also good for we citacens of the USA.
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Re: None of the above
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2010, 05:07:15 PM »
Quote from: Swampman on August 17, 2010, 08:17:17 AM
  Make no mistake Obama is on the ballot you just can't see him.

Very true.
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Re: None of the above
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2010, 05:48:15 PM »
Billy, 90% works for me. Will Rogers once said something to the effect: "There is good news and bad news out of Washington. The bad news is that Congress is in session. The good news is that they are hopelessly deadlocked".  Imagine a country with out pork barrell legislation. Gives me goose bumps.   


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Re: None of the above
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2010, 07:44:31 AM »
Hermit, for sure, in todays Washingotn DC all legislation is pork barrel legisaltion and the only way to stop it is no legislation. eddie
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Re: None of the above
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2010, 08:07:04 AM »
Our voting changed as less and less voted . We as a group allowed the rules to change by not being there to over see it. We as a group did what our founding fathers warned us not to do TRUST GOVT.
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Re: None of the above
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2010, 08:48:15 AM »
I believe that many of the founding fathers were politicians. Governors etc. That is the government.
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