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375 JDJ & 260 gr. partitions
« on: August 15, 2010, 08:23:04 PM »
JJ. I have read in the past you used the 260 gr. nosler partition in a 375 JDJ 14". I am looking at using this bullet in my 375 JDJ but don't know how well they will expand.(I talked to J.D. Jones and he didn't think the partition would work and recommended the 270 gr. hornady but I've seen that not expand at all in the past and am really looking for something better). In your experiance how low vel. will they still perform on animals the size of whitetails (I would like to use this in Africa someday but money and time have kinda put that out of reach for a few years)? Are there any pressure problems loading the partition using the data for the 270 gr. hornady? Also, any other info,load data or stories on using the partition in the 375 jdj would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: 375 JDJ & 260 gr. partitions
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2010, 10:03:18 PM »
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Re: 375 JDJ & 260 gr. partitions
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2010, 03:33:47 AM »
JJ. I have read in the past you used the 260 gr. nosler partition in a 375 JDJ 14". I am looking at using this bullet in my 375 JDJ but don't know how well they will expand.(I talked to J.D. Jones and he didn't think the partition would work and recommended the 270 gr. hornady but I've seen that not expand at all in the past and am really looking for something better). In your experiance how low vel. will they still perform on animals the size of whitetails (I would like to use this in Africa someday but money and time have kinda put that out of reach for a few years)? Are there any pressure problems loading the partition using the data for the 270 gr. hornady? Also, any other info,load data or stories on using the partition in the 375 jdj would be greatly appreciated.

You crack me up man.  You talked to J. D. Jones, the father of the 375 JDJ and handgun hunter extraordinaire and you don't believe him?

Yes you can use data for the 270 gr. Hornady for the 260 gr. Nosler partitions.

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Re: 375 JDJ & 260 gr. partitions
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2010, 06:34:35 PM »
Yes I have a lot of respect for Mr. Jones, he's been there and done that and has a lot of great info. But I didn't mention that I have had awful luck with Hornady Bullets.I've seen the 270 gr. blow right through animals and not open up at all and the last one I used blew up on a whitetail's shoulder. I't was very weird to see this heavy bullet just blow apart on the shoulder bone, it left the funniest wound I have ever seen and didn't even make it to the vitals (finished off the deer with another gun). I know Severe A. and JJ have had the same problems and have switched to the Noslers and say there great so I'm looking at trying them(the nosler partition is all I use in my 375 H&H and Weatherby cals. so I know how well they work in rifles).At least they should hold up and not break apart. Is there any warning as there is with the Barnes X bullets about seating them deeper in the JDJ cal.?

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Re: 375 JDJ & 260 gr. partitions
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2010, 12:29:48 AM »
I have nothing against Nosler bullets and use them (not Partitions though) in several loads.

That said, I've taken over a dozen African animals with Hornady bullets and I have no complaints whatsoever in their performance; nothing I've hit with them got away.  That includes a Black Wildebeest taken with a Hornady 158 gr. XTP hollow point out of a 10 inch 357 Herret.

By the way, one PH I was with didn't like Nosler Partitions saying they were too soft.

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Re: 375 JDJ & 260 gr. partitions
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2010, 08:55:31 PM »
Thanks for your ideas but I think I'm still looking at using the partitions. I tried some the other day and they shot great (got about a 2" group at 100 yds.) tested on phonebooks and the bullets expanded and went about 4 feet into the berm behind the box. First test show there what I'm looking for. Just a side note in Shooting Times Mag. seven contender cartridges Lane Simpson wrote the partition and accubond are giving the hornady a run for it's money on elk in the 375 JDJ. Still would like to hear JJHack,Severe A,and others that have used this combo on animals.

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Re: 375 JDJ & 260 gr. partitions
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2010, 06:01:25 AM »
No doubt JDJ has done a lot and is a great resource of information. However on this topic, he's had the use of some special 270 hornady bullets, or he only wants them to act in a high penetration situation?

They do not open at the low velocity the JDJ provides. Lets just use some common sense here. The 270 grain bullet was designed by hornady for a MV of 2800 plus FPS, that is Way faster almost 1000fps faster then the 375JDJ provides at the muzzle!  It's also designed to be shot from a rifle that will be used on the biggest heaviest game that walks the earth. You bet your a$$ it's a tough bullet that is not going to open up on smaller game at lower velocity.

This is not bad in the JDJ cartridge, it might be the right option depending upon the application. However for Plains game and north American big game the 260 Partition was by a very large Margin far superior in lethal performance. It does not penetrate even close to the 270 hornady, but the bullets mushroom great and exit enough to be exactly what the velocity and cartridge design seem to be made for.

One something huge, the penetration of the 270 hornady wins, but for softer skinned game under 500 pounds or thereabout the 260 provides a great shuddering impact that is visible, where the 270 Hornady zips clean through with almost no visual impact. Having shot well over 100 animals in several countries with this gun I would take the 260 Partition 100% of the time for anything elk sized or smaller that is soft skinned, normal to light body structure. Example Black Bears, elk, deer, kudu, impala, black wildebeest, hartebeest, zebra, Mtn Lions, warthogs, smaller/female wild boar,

Animals to consider the 270 hornady, Brown bears, eland, moose, bison, blue wildebeest, larger/male wild hogs.
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Re: 375 JDJ & 260 gr. partitions
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2010, 07:37:46 AM »
Thanks JJHACK that was the info I am looking for. I'm looking at the types of game you are talking about :deer,black bear, and elk for now but hope to add plains game soon (if time and money ever get better). Have you got any recommended loads? I'm using H4895.

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Re: 375 JDJ & 260 gr. partitions
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2010, 04:19:40 PM »
I stopped using Hornady 270 gr - because 50% of the bullets did not hold together.
Some of them lost 75%.

Then I started to use Partition 260 gr - and have been satisfied.

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Re: 375 JDJ & 260 gr. partitions
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2011, 05:00:47 AM »
Yes I have a lot of respect for Mr. Jones, he's been there and done that and has a lot of great info. But I didn't mention that I have had awful luck with Hornady Bullets.I've seen the 270 gr. blow right through animals and not open up at all and the last one I used blew up on a whitetail's shoulder. I't was very weird to see this heavy bullet just blow apart on the shoulder bone, it left the funniest wound I have ever seen and didn't even make it to the vitals (finished off the deer with another gun). I know Severe A. and JJ have had the same problems and have switched to the Noslers and say there great so I'm looking at trying them(the nosler partition is all I use in my 375 H&H and Weatherby cals. so I know how well they work in rifles).At least they should hold up and not break apart. Is there any warning as there is with the Barnes X bullets about seating them deeper in the JDJ cal.?

I assure that was a highly unusual freak incident! The 270 grain Hornady works well enough  for the 375 JDJ. I have killed dozens of whitetail with it. However, I break shoulders and they go no where. I simply don't believe any story of them breaking apart.

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Re: 375 JDJ & 260 gr. partitions
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2011, 05:24:47 AM »
Sorry I haven't posted don't get on the computer much.
Yes the 270 gr. broke up on the shoulder of that deer I'm guessing it had to be a bad bullet (the 270 hornady has a good rep. in the H&H on dang. game) but for my own use I won't trust it. The nosler seems to work good and I'm happy with it so that's all that matters to me.