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Offline JDUB

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Winchester 101 ID
« on: December 02, 2003, 11:56:17 AM »
Iv'e been trying for some time to ID a Win 101 12ga Straight stock 29 1/2" barrel F/F choke ser# K163741. Blue book does'nt list but has a nice short novel about 101s? HELP Thanks JDUB :?

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Winchester 101 ID
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2003, 02:43:34 AM »
Winchester M101 Field Gun Over/Under:
Boxlock, engraved receiver.  Auto ejectors.  Single selective trigger. Combination bbl. selector and safety.  Gauges 12 and 28,, 2.75-inch chambers; 20 and 410, 3-inch chambers.  Vent-rib bbls,; 30- (12 ga. only) and 26.5-inch, IC/M. Weight: 6.25 to 7.75lbs. depending on gauge and bbl. length.  Hand checkered French walnut and forearm.  Made 1963-81.  Gauges other than 12 introduced 1966.
12 and 20 Gauges      .............................................$750
28 and 410  Gauges   .............................................$925

Winchester M101 Diamond Grade Target
Similar to M101 Standard except silvered frame and Winchoke interchangeable choke tubes.  Made 1981-90............$1325.

NOTE:  All Winchester Model 101s were mfd. for Olin Corp. at its Olin-Kodenska facility in Tochigi, Japan.  Production for Olin Corp. stopped in Nov. 1987.  Importation of Model 101's was continued by Classic Doubles under that logo until 1990.

Imported by Classic Doubles International, St. Louis, MO, and previously by Olin as Winchester Models 101, and 23.
Classic I Field  ......................................................$1295
Classic II Field  .....................................................$1450
Classic Sporter  ....................................................$1550
Classic Sporter Combo  .........................................$2450
Classic Trap  .........................................................$1200
Classic Trap Single  ...............................................$1295
Classic Trap Combo  ..............................................$1950
Classic Skeet  .......................................................$1450
Classic Skeet 2-Bbl. Set  ........................................$1895
Classic Skeet 4-Bbl. Set  ........................................$3750
Classic Waterfowler  ............................................. $1095
For Grade II (28 Ga.) add  ......................................$ 750
For Grade II (.410 Ga.) add  ...................................$ 250
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Win 101
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2003, 05:12:04 AM »
Thanks for the info! I'm still trying to figure out which mod. I have,whether its a light weight or a couple others that mention straight stocks? THANKS JDUB :)

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Your 101 is a mystery
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2003, 04:09:35 PM »
I own a 28 ga. Field grade, and have spent a lot of time looking at any 101"s I see over the last 10 years or so.  I have examanined all my Winchester reference books, as well as the Blue Book, and here are my findings so far.  Perhaps nothing new for you here.  In History of Winchester Firearms, Duncan Barnes, 5th edition, an exellent section on 101.  The only straight stock they show is an option in the "Lightweight" series, as taken from listing in 1980 catalog.  They say that the sides and bottom or receiver has engravings of game birds.  They do not list barrel lengths for this grade, but common sense says a straight stock is a lightweight "English" type of shotgun, which would have short (26 or so) and not long barrels. Also, it would probably not be bored F/F.  So the mystery remains. They have a very detailed chart, showing every model and specification, and the only 30 inch, F/F is a "Field Mag." Barrels could have a white bead, or metal bead as I read it.  The one thing they do NOT list in chart is type of stock grip.  The straight grip is the odd thing.  Does the wood match the beavertail forearm for grain, color, etc, or could it be a replacement? Perhaps both pieces of wood were replaced.  I do know that the 101 has all parts serialized the same, but I have never removed the stock on mine to see if it is serialized or not. That would be interesting to know.  Perhaps someone else knows if the stocks have a serial # before you tear into it.  You could just remove the buttplate easily, sometimes they use a pencil serial no. there.

The Blue Book shows straight grip available in what they call a Pigeon Grade section, "Featherweight".  However, the chokes and barrel lengths for this model do not agree with yours either.

Just some more fodder for your mill!  I do know that every 101 actual or photograph I have ever seen was pistol grip stock, so if the straight grip, long barrel, F/F is correct, it is a rare piece indeed.

Keep us posted

David McCubbin

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101 ID
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2003, 06:11:23 AM »
Nice thing about chat sites! Thats more info then i've been able to dig up in some time(have to remember that next time i cuss my computer!). Well everything appears to match & its in excellent condition,so i guess it must be a rare piece. Thanks to you all for the replys JDUB :D

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Winchester 101 ID
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2003, 04:15:30 AM »
Question for you 101 experts.  I have a Ted Williams model 400 20ga, sn 273.12xx.  I understand that this is a Sears version of the Winchester 101.  Can someone confirm or correct me on this?  Thanks.