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Offline wareagleguy

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The day that changed everything
« on: August 16, 2010, 05:24:45 PM »
On October 15 2008 was the last time that I have touched my bow.  That was the day I shot the biggest buck that I had ever seen.  The shot was good and I just knew that I just killed a deer that was going to score very close (if not more) to 180 points.  I have one deer that scored 172 and another at 153 so when I say a 180 I mean 180! 
After the shot I waited a while and set out looking for the deer of my life.  After 4 days of looking and finding more blood than any deer could ever hold I never found him :(.  Over the next two years I would walk the area just on the one in a million chance I would find something but never did.

After that day I have never touched my bow again.  I just don't know why but it has killed my desire to bow hunt.  Now this is from a guy that really considered selling all my guns (deer hunting) and hunting with the bow only.  I have killed more deer than I can remember.  I have also lost a few really good deer but this loss has really done it in for me for bow hunting.  I am going back in the woods this season with a bow in hand for the first time in two years.  To tell the truth I am not sure if I can ever get my mojo back.  I know all you guys that have been doing this for 30 years know what I am talking about.  It is where if anything come in your zone and you decide you want to take it...its took!  Maybe I get the old buck fever again!  Anyone ever loose that deer of a life time?

 
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Re: The day that changed everything
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2010, 07:46:54 PM »
It runs in your blood, you either have it or you don't. It sounds to me that you do, and I would hate to see that go to waste. Guys with rifles have lost great deer before. Just because you shoot it doesn't mean it is going home with you. Honestly I am glad to see that it bothered you, if it didn't then I would be worried.

Since it did bother you I know that you are an ethical hunter, and do everything in your power to make sure the shot is a clean kill shot instead of ( well I will try it but I'm pretty sure it won't kill it ).

Everyone deals with a lost deer differently. Heck I have literally thrown up before over a doe I couldn't find. Git out there this season and kill the one you lost's GRANDPA.... Just remember, Hunt Fun, Hunt Honest, Hunt Ethically, and when you can take a kid with you, it will make him or her a memory for life.
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Re: The day that changed everything
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2010, 07:22:29 AM »
Any deer hit and then lost (rifle or bow) affects each of us in our own way.  From your story I can tell this had a very adverse affect on you, which is good in it's own way.  The loss of a wounded animal is heart breaking for any ethical hunter, no matter if it is a doe or that once in a life time buck.  I do know from over 30 years of bow hunting, what looked like a great shot at the time, sometimes wasn't such a great shot.  I've seen it on videos and I seen it in real life.  In some cases the deer (they are tough) survives, in some cases they don't.  It is also very funny just how much a deer can bleed and still survive. 

Now with all that said I have a question for you, were there any other people hunting in the same general area?  The reason I ask is I had a deer stolen once during bowseason.  Like you I had made a what I thought was a great shot, but after an hour wait I started tracking and the blood trail wasn't as good as I expected.  I lost it a couple of times during the tracking, but was able to find it again.  Long story short, I finally came to where the deer had been field dressed.  There was no evidence of it being dragged after field dressing so all I could do was stand there with my mouth hung open.  I'm not saying this is what happened to you, but with a deer the size you discribed, it would be really tempting for someone that happened along.

Other than that, I would think if after two years you found no evidence of the deer dieing, I would almost have to bet it survived.  None of this just keep you out of the woods!  You are an ethical hunter and I'm sure you will always give 110% at making a good shot, and then 110% recovering any deer you hit.  That is all anyone, including yourself, could ask.

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Re: The day that changed everything
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2010, 11:13:49 AM »
ALL HAWKS KILL, I REALLY, REALLY, LIKE THAT PRAYER, AND AS FOR YOUR DICTATION, YOU COULDN'T BE MORE SPOT ON THAN THAT. GREAT AND ENJOYABLE READ FROM ONE ARROW FLINGER TO ANOTHER.
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Re: The day that changed everything
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2010, 01:09:13 PM »
I've been deer hunting for thirty years.  I still have feelings of guilt/remorse often when I come up on the deer I've just killed and see it laying there on the ground.  A few minutes ago it was a beautiful, living thing minding it's own business in it's own territory.  However, I still get excited about the chase and realize that one animal taking another is a part of nature.  I could go to the market and buy a steak but what's the difference if I kill something or the butcher?

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Re: The day that changed everything
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2010, 02:28:11 PM »
ALL HAWKS KILL, I REALLY, REALLY, LIKE THAT PRAYER, AND AS FOR YOUR DICTATION, YOU COULDN'T BE MORE SPOT ON THAN THAT. GREAT AND ENJOYABLE READ FROM ONE ARROW FLINGER TO ANOTHER.

Thank you!  I feel closer to the Big Guy in a stand than I do in a pew.  Sitting in a stand and witnessing the change of night to day, listening to the sound and smelling the smells is all I need.  Taking one of His grand creatures is a gift on top of the present that surrounds me.
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Re: The day that changed everything
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2010, 10:54:09 PM »
AMEN, NEED I SAY MORE, BUT I WILL, Y'ALL KNOW ME BETTER THAN THAT. WATCHING A NEW DAY BE BORN MY FRIEND IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: The day that changed everything
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2010, 06:30:09 PM »
All Hawks,
I don't think anyone got my deer.  I do have a hunting club near but the area is so thick I don't think anyone got him.  I hope he lived.  I am sure he was a deer that I had seen a season before.  I worked all spring and summer on a new green field in hopes he would return.  I had several camera sout in hopes to get a picture but never did.  I was convinced he was only going through the area and anyone had to be lucky enough to be at the right spot at the right time.

It just seemed to me that I had work 30 years for that moment and blew it.   I think I will use your prayer, thanks.
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Re: The day that changed everything
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2010, 09:19:40 PM »
wareagleguy I agree that you have to be a honest genuine hunter with good ethics. Sometimes the cards are just not in your favor. I say a prayer close to all hawks asking the good Lord to bless me with one of his beautiful creatures if its in his plan. I too love to watch a new day break and when I see it I feel very close to the big guy upstairs as if this is what we were here to do. Keep your head up and just ask the "man" for guidance, if he wants you to return to hunting you will. Best of luck!
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Re: The day that changed everything
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2010, 04:56:29 AM »
Just as an FYI to all bowhunters heading out this year.  Please check with your state Conservation Office to get a list of approved blood trackers.  My dog is currently in training and will be evaluated and approved by next year.  In the state of NH there are several trackers that would be happy to come out even days after a kill to help you track your game.  It's amazing what a well trained dog can do.  They usually are required to be leash tracked so they won't go just tearing through the woods. I have seen dogs track blood that was a week old like it just dropped.

It's worth a call just to see one of these dogs in action.  Mark the first sign of blood with tape and make the call, you won't be sorry.

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Re: The day that changed everything
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2010, 09:11:55 AM »
Even the wife's useless little varmint( cross of Pomeranian+JR) will track a blood trail if you help him getting over some obstacles.

I don't bow hunt but I did get sour on two rifle cartridges. One I will never use again because I lost a nice TX buck and is has been many years for the other which let me down for a BIG  mulie. The wolves got to him before I could .I'm given that cartridge another chance after many years .

 Obviously neither shot was the best I could have hoped for and I will take a good portion of the blame.
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Re: The day that changed everything
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2010, 01:38:53 AM »
wareagleguy,

I have been hunting since I was 6yrs old and am now 46 not long till 47. In all these years I have lost a few deer, not once in a lifetime, but to me deer is a deer, and the horns are just ornaments.

This said, on nearly everyone of them I shot what I thought was a perfect shot. Some of them were found at a later time and yes the hit was inside the ribs and usually through one of the shoulders. The tenacity of some deer is simply mind boggling. These are wild creature who live in extremes day in and day out. Every day is survival for them. Some seem to drop with the lightest hit and some seem to soak up the hit like it was nothing and keep on trucking.

A prime example was a fellow who was hunting close to two miles from our family farm. We were out mid day, setting up a makeshift ground blind in hopes of putting the ambush on a nice buck we had been seeing. We hear leaves rustling and then this fellow ask from back in the woods had we seen a buck come running by. Well we simply looked at each other somewhat stupefied as number one, we had never seen anyone hunting this property, and number two we were probably making enough noise no buck would have come within a hundred yards of us much less the 25 - 30 this fellow was. His story was he shot this nice buck as it ran a doe past his stand. He thought it was a great shot and the buck stumbled and just before falling regained his stride and kept right in behind the doe.

The shot was at around 7 that morning and this was going on around 1 or so. He said he left the area until around 9 and had been tracking ever since, and not seen hide nor hair. At the time I had a 7 month old Golden retriever who didn't know blood on the ground from aspirin in the bottle, but I offered him up for what it was worth. He hit the trail and about drug me to death going through briers and vines that I figured rabbits avoided. Sure enough about 3/4 miles form where we put him on the first drop of blood, my daughter hollers here he is. Well "he" was still kicking and as he tried to get up the fellow put another round through his neck ending the chase. Overall this deer had covered close to three miles from the original shot and nowhere along the way did the fellow or us find any sign of him bedding down or even stopping for that matter. Simply a trail which left drops about every ten to fifteen yards. The hit was a bit high, but still caught the tops of both lungs, and how this deer did what it did was unbelievable. We dressed him out and only needed a handfull of leaves to clean our hands. There was literally no blood remaining in this deer. Even the meat was a pale whitish grey.

Don't beat yourself up too badly. You did all you could do, and sometimes even that is not enough. Me personally I get sick if they run period, I am just too accustomed to them dropping in a heap at the pull of a trigger. I got into archery two years ago and my fist buck, the first year, on opening morning was lost to the critters. To say I was sick is an understatement. It took the whole year for me to get my mid set back so that I could head out once again with a bow. There again, I lost a doe, even with a dog we came up to the last spot of blood in an open pasture and that was that, like someone picked her up with a balloon and nothing else was ever found.

So here I am in the third season, hoping to put that all behind me and bag a nice one. I don't feel that I have left things to chance as I have put in two years now of practice on targets and hogs, so all I can do is the best I can do. Like anything else once you commit, and release the string or pull the trigger, it is out of your hands, and the best you can hope for is your shot is true.

I know from reading your post that your dedicated to the creatures you hunt. This is sometimes hard to find in todays fast paced world. Good luck with your season and remember those past hunts are what make you better on the future hunts. We all have something to learn every time we go out. You have learned your lesson and it has made you a better man for it.

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Re: The day that changed everything
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2010, 06:55:06 AM »
I'm thankful for each and everyone I arrow.