Author Topic: Cross bow hunting looks good (Read 2035 times)

woodyed · « **on:** August 18, 2010, 05:26:28 PM »

The bill legalizing cross bow hunting has passed both the Senate and Assembly houses in the State and all it needs now is Patterson's signature. Keep hoping gang.

DANNY-L · « **Reply #1 on:** August 19, 2010, 04:26:04 AM »

A big + that it wont be during archery season.

woodyed · « **Reply #2 on:** August 19, 2010, 04:59:15 AM »

I hope it is during archery season. Why not, it's hunting with an bow and arrow and it's usually warmer during the archery season and you don't freeze to death sitting in your tree stand like you would during muzzleloader season. Archery season should be just for archers, whether you use a compound or a crossbow.

DANNY-L · « **Reply #3 on:** August 19, 2010, 05:46:01 AM »

According to the latest NY outdoor news (8/6/10) it will be during the muzzle loader & rifle season. If signed will not come into effect until the 2011 season.

Casull · « **Reply #4 on:** August 19, 2010, 10:25:44 AM »

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I hope it is during archery season. Why not, it's hunting with an bow and arrow

+1

RON17T · « **Reply #5 on:** August 19, 2010, 02:11:39 PM »

+2 on archery season.It's a bow and arrow,maybe different from a compound,but how would the bowhunters association like it if you could only use a longbow during archery season and compounds were only legal during rifle season?

str8shooter48 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 20, 2010, 11:29:02 AM »

Quote from: RON17T on August 19, 2010, 02:11:39 PM

+2 on archery season.It's a bow and arrow,maybe different from a compound,but how would the bowhunters association like it if you could only use a longbow during archery season and compounds were only legal during rifle season?

+3 My sentiments exactly

NYH1 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 21, 2010, 08:12:43 AM »

Quote from: str8shooter48 on August 20, 2010, 11:29:02 AM

Quote from: RON17T on August 19, 2010, 02:11:39 PM

+2 on archery season.It's a bow and arrow,maybe different from a compound,but how would the bowhunters association like it if you could only use a longbow during archery season and compounds were only legal during rifle season?

+3 My sentiments exactly

+4!

RWK · « **Reply #8 on:** August 21, 2010, 06:06:15 PM »

Quote from: DANNY-L on August 19, 2010, 04:26:04 AM

A big + that it wont be during archery season.

Danny thats BS and you know it. Rich

DANNY-L · « **Reply #9 on:** August 22, 2010, 12:44:01 AM »

Quote from: RWK on August 21, 2010, 06:06:15 PM

Quote from: DANNY-L on August 19, 2010, 04:26:04 AM
A big + that it wont be during archery season.

Danny thats BS and you know it. Rich

I think the crossbow would make the deer nocturnal,with all those out there that think the crossbow is nothing more than a quiet rifle capable of shooting deer at lond distances. For those that enjoy bow hunting leave it alone because if they allow crossbows then in a year or two you dont think it should be allowed it will be to late to late to make it unauthorized.If you really want to take a deer with the crossbow take it out during rifle season like handgun hunters do and they dont complain and they enjoy the compitition.

bubba · « **Reply #10 on:** August 22, 2010, 02:14:55 AM »

yes the deer will recognize you have a crossbow and will go nocturnal right away. Your reasoning does not make sense to me. I love the eletist sentiment it is my season, I pick the implement and they are my deer. The only one I see complaining is you. If you want to be able to hunt in 10 years, hunters better work together. It is a privelege not a right. Our numbers are falling every year and anything that will increase the number of hunters is a big +. It is funny archery and muzzeoading run at the same time in the northern zone and it works very well. But we start in September and hunt until mid December. It seems to me the closer you get to the big city, the more the selfish it is about me attitude exists.

DANNY-L · « **Reply #11 on:** August 22, 2010, 03:06:21 AM »

Its not a complaint its an opinion,whatever way it is put in writing is what we'll all have to go by.

bubba · « **Reply #12 on:** August 22, 2010, 03:31:52 AM »

good answer to absolutely nothing. complain was your word not mine. I used it from your post. handgunners enoy the competition but you cant have competition?

sprest22 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 22, 2010, 03:48:51 AM »

It always amazes me how selfish people can be. I have been to DEC meetings when the NY Bowhunters whined, yes whined about opening regular southern zone hunting on a Sat and them losing a a weekend. I bowhunt,rifle hunt,handgun hunt and welcome the crossbow. I won't go get one but I won't complain about others,especially handicapped hunters using one.
NY hunters and that includes NY Bowhunters better get the picture that we all need to stick together.

mspaci · « **Reply #14 on:** August 22, 2010, 05:05:02 AM »

I have a buddy with a bad shoulder that likes to bowhunt, it would be nice for him to be able to hunt with me again during bow season. Think about the others who could be out there again. You must have to think of others as well, & do whats right for the whole hunting community. I will not use a cross bow but its ok if others want to. Mike

DANNY-L · « **Reply #15 on:** August 22, 2010, 09:10:33 AM »

I 100% agree that those with certain disabilities should be allowed to bow hunt with a crossbow,it should have been allowed years ago.

Casull · « **Reply #16 on:** August 22, 2010, 09:47:54 AM »

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I 100% agree that those with certain disabilities should be allowed to bow hunt with a crossbow,it should have been allowed years ago.

ANYONE should be allowed to. It's still archery. I always get a kick out of those "archers" who protest the crossbow, all while using a 60% to 80% letoff compound device, two point sighting system, ball bearing trigger release, treestand and any other thing they can find to overcome the chances of a deer seeing them "draw" their "bow".

k · « **Reply #17 on:** August 22, 2010, 10:00:57 AM »

Quote from: Casull on August 22, 2010, 09:47:54 AM

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I 100% agree that those with certain disabilities should be allowed to bow hunt with a crossbow,it should have been allowed years ago.

ANYONE should be allowed to. It's still archery. I always get a kick out of those "archers" who protest the crossbow, all while using a 60% to 80% letoff compound device, two point sighting system, ball bearing trigger release, treestand and any other thing they can find to overcome the chances of a deer seeing them "draw" their "bow".

1+ just selfish people

FLNT4EVR · « **Reply #18 on:** August 23, 2010, 12:51:47 PM »

Danny-L is correct.Crossbows will only be allowed during the ML,and regular rifle seasons.Not during the archery season. The NY bowhunters ass.got their way again.

chefjeff · « **Reply #19 on:** August 24, 2010, 09:39:14 AM »

Crossbows just became legal for everyone in NC. We had a fuss from the bowhunters assoc. here to. Let's just all shoot 'em and be happy.

ironglow · « **Reply #20 on:** September 15, 2010, 05:25:31 PM »

I think it quite petty when bow hunters of today are using compounds with costly sights, releases and ranging sights plus hundreds of dollars of specialized equipment to hunt deer, yet quake in fear that somebody who needs to may employ a crossbow. Obviously, they can easily have $1,000 or better in a bow + specialized equipment, which rather takes away from their claimed "purist" status. I could understand the woden long bow user if he/she claimed purist status, but not the guy who has a multi-gageted compound with enough extras to look like something from a science fiction novel. I might take an interest in bow hunting, except that a dozen years ago I suffered a torn rotator cuff muscle where it has attenuated away, so there is no way I can draw a bow, long or compound.
I usually use a 30/30 for regular rifle season, but I have no quarrel if my neighbor wants to use a .270 Win or a .375 H&H magnum..that's his business.
As Bubba said, hunters numbers are dropping and we need to encourage all who want to hunt, regardless of certain needs...let's not whine about petty stuff.

DANNY-L · « **Reply #21 on:** September 16, 2010, 01:42:53 AM »

My brother had the same problem with his shoulder so he had a drawlock installed on his compound and now he's back in the game.

ironglow · « **Reply #22 on:** September 16, 2010, 04:37:36 AM »

Quote from: DANNY-L on September 16, 2010, 01:42:53 AM

My brother had the same problem with his shoulder so he had a drawlock installed on his compound and now he's back in the game.

What is the difference whether I hold my bow horizontal or vertical. I usually use a 30/30 lever action for deer, but there are folks all around me using bolt actions, pumps and even semi-automatics...I really don't mind, because that's their business..

bubba · « **Reply #23 on:** September 17, 2010, 01:16:32 AM »

without a special permit drawlocks are not allowed in NY state. I refer you to page 16 of the regulations guide second column under manner of taking.

ironglow · « **Reply #24 on:** September 17, 2010, 01:33:33 AM »

At first i thought the bow hunters maight be arguing from a "traditionalist" standpoint, but today's compound bows appear to be more technically sophisticated than the crossbows which are offered. Thus, the tradition argument must be put aside.

DANNY-L · « **Reply #25 on:** September 17, 2010, 02:23:33 AM »

With the drawlock you get documentation from your DR. and send it into the DEC. with a picture of yourself and when/if approved it comes back like a pict. ID it needs to be renewed every so often for a small fee. He got his with no problem as I did with my back but I dont see how it can be accurate without any resistance by just holding your bow out with one hand and nothing more than squezing the trigger,my brother hasnt shot his yet to tell but I'll comment on it soon to let those possibly interested.

ironglow · « **Reply #26 on:** September 17, 2010, 06:30:01 AM »

Which of course brings me back to my original question. I realize you don't have anything to do with our DEC rules, but I fail to see what difference it makes whether my bow is held north-south or east-west..

By that of ourse, I mean vertical or horizontal.. I am having a difficult time figuring out why any bow hunter would worry about what his neighbor uses for a bow; any more than I should worry whether my rifle hunting neighbor uses a .270 Win or a 45/70 instead of a 30/30 as I use.
Now being 74, I wouldn't mind hunting deer in the warmer weather. Come November, my woods usually has 2-3 feet of snow in it...

The Hermit · « **Reply #27 on:** September 18, 2010, 06:56:11 PM »

We certainly have come a long way from a sharpened stick, to take our game. Personally, it wouldn't bother me how a hunter gets his deer as long as its fair chase, done humanely and little is wasted.
Being 75 now, it tickles me to see on TV all the tools available to hunters. GPS, scent eliminating stuff, range finders so you don't have to judge distance, to certain types of arrows that are allowed. I can't keep up with it all, but find it amazing. Guess it dosn't take a lot to amuse me.
I have never shot a crossbow and can't pull back a bow string anymore, but I think it would be fun to try a crossbow. Take a kid hunting if you have a chance to. Its an experience that both will remember.
Be safe.
The Hermit

brownie · « **Reply #28 on:** September 23, 2010, 02:40:17 PM »

Its signed and here is a Q & A posted by DEC http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/68802.html just as people thought, no archery season and it will start 2011. There is also somethin at the end about needing training

"DEC will develop a training program for new hunters using the existing hunter education program. For current hunters, DEC will develop on-line and home study materials on crossbow safety. DEC will announce when these materials are available"

it will be interesting to see what this turns out to be.

It also has an experation date.

"The bill will expire on December 31, 2012, unless the Legislature and Governor decide to extend the law."