Author Topic: BROWNING SEMI-AUTO (Read 1367 times)

williamlayton · « **on:** August 20, 2010, 03:58:26 PM »

Alrighty now---I have looked back thru the archives here for two years.
I want a Browning.
1) Is the Japanese manufactering a detriment?
2) Why do none seem to likethem?
3) Is the cost a detriment?
4) Am I a fool?
Blessings

Doug B. · « **Reply #1 on:** August 21, 2010, 01:20:48 AM »

I have had the take-down Belgium made model for about 35 years and it has been flawless. Only concerns.......The firearm is not well suited for a large framed person and is a little too light to hold steady like heavier models. With practice you CAN overcome these concerns however. It's a pleasure to carry and I might add very accurate. I mounted a Williams peep sight directly on the receiver, and it pretty much drives tacks. I would be hard pressed to part with this firearm.

pastorp · « **Reply #2 on:** August 21, 2010, 05:32:44 AM »

I bought a Belgium made bar 22 back in the mid 1960s. I mounted a 4x scope on mine and used it to kill truckloads of hogs and squirrells.

Best 22 rifle I've ever owned. No your not crazy. I think the jap made ones are just fine from a user standpoint they just lack snob appeal. I know my BLRs that are jap made function just as well as the Belgium made BLRs.

Regards,

williamlayton · « **Reply #3 on:** August 21, 2010, 11:01:35 AM »

What would you say was a fair price for a 1962 Belgian, grade 1 in 98% ?
Blessings

pastorp · « **Reply #4 on:** August 21, 2010, 12:44:58 PM »

I would guess about $500- $600 in that condition.

Regards,

williamlayton · « **Reply #5 on:** August 21, 2010, 01:05:46 PM »

Paid $705 for one today at Colectors firearms in Houston. Could have gotten a NIB grade 1 Japanese for $460--but had determined if I could get a Belgian within $ 200 of the NIB price i would go for it.
I saw it last evening on the Collector's Firearms Web for $259 and they came down---course I sold a man and his 9 year old son on getting a Japanese browning while I was standing there.
I thought it to be a fair price---for my purpopses.
Blessings

Bigeasy · « **Reply #6 on:** August 21, 2010, 01:12:01 PM »

Here is one worth looking at. Its a 1980's made browning that was a full size .22 rifle. Very accurate and well made (Japan). Only problem was the rifle tended to jam when dirty, so a shot of spray cleaner to the action every 100 rounds or so was needed. It is also a take down rifle, with a take down screw on the left side of the receiver. Sold it a few years back when I was cleaning out my gun safes, and wish I hadn't.

Larry

Rangr44 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 22, 2010, 11:02:42 AM »

I want a Browning. - No fault, there.

1) Is the Japanese manufactering a detriment? - Only to collectors of Belgian Brownings.

2) Why do none seem to like them? - Maybe you've only seen Belgian collector's comments.

3) Is the cost a detriment? - Sure it can be - especially if compared to a peashooter.

4) Am I a fool? - I'd have to ask your "significant other".

.

Lurker · « **Reply #8 on:** August 22, 2010, 07:50:10 PM »

Quote from: Rangr44 on August 22, 2010, 11:02:42 AM

I want a Browning. - No fault, there.

1) Is the Japanese manufactering a detriment? - Only to collectors of Belgian Brownings.

2) Why do none seem to like them? - Maybe you've only seen Belgian collector's comments.

3) Is the cost a detriment? - Sure it can be - especially if compared to a peashooter.

4) Am I a fool? - I'd have to ask your "significant other".

Really good answers...!

Bill

williamlayton · « **Reply #9 on:** August 23, 2010, 09:47:29 AM »

Answer # 2 is still a puzzle.
Going back two years and no one reccomends the Browning. That was the question, though poorly communicated.
I came into this with a set of thoughts.
The Browning, for its purpose, should be a Belgian---If the cost proved too prohibitive , I would get the Jap. I was not concerned because the Japanese have proved that they can build quality--I just wanted to check it out.
When I found no commentary on the Browning at all, I wondered what was going on.
Anywho---I found a Belgian, in great condition---doubt it has been fired---built in 1962 and it was within my price range.
Blessings

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #10 on:** August 23, 2010, 09:54:24 AM »

Quote from: williamlayton on August 20, 2010, 03:58:26 PM

Alrighty now---I have looked back thru the archives here for two years.
I want a Browning.
1) Is the Japanese manufactering a detriment?
2) Why do none seem to likethem?
3) Is the cost a detriment?
4) Am I a fool?
Blessings

I had one and sold it . It was to light and ejected out the bottom so if target shooting the empties were under foot and a trip hazzard. It wasn't so accurate either . The bolt was a pain being under the action . Most jap guns are well built if not better built .
But it was purdy to look at.

spruce · « **Reply #11 on:** August 23, 2010, 04:05:45 PM »

There are more accurate .22's, more expensive .22's, and .22's that are better suited for certain specific tasks, but in my opinion none that have as much CLASS as John Browning's .22!

chefjeff · « **Reply #12 on:** August 24, 2010, 09:32:56 AM »

Sweet little guns.Had several over the years. Only problem I had was with a short only model that ran out of rear sight adjustment to zero. Overall great guns,very classy.

Rangr44 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 24, 2010, 12:15:10 PM »

There's NOTHING wrong with Miroku (Japanese) Brownings, and it's elitist to insist otherwise, collecting aside.

FWIW, this 1974 Miroku cost me $199, and has yet to have any sort of mechanical or accuracy issue.

It's only sore points are the same as every other Browning-pattern Auto-22 ATD, albeit Belgian Browning, Miroku Browning or Chinese clone:

* They WILL drop hot empty brass down a loose cuff of a long-sleeved shirt/coat of the shooter's forward arm, causing some discomfort.

* ALL their buttstocks WILL break, if takedown is attempted by twisting on the buttstock ILO the receiver, and w/o first holding the bolt to the rear.

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Oldshooter · « **Reply #14 on:** August 24, 2010, 01:35:36 PM »

1) Is the Japanese manufactering a detriment? To some not me
2) Why do none seem to like them? I do!
3) Is the cost a detriment? Yep!
4) Am I a fool? Nope!

TLARbb · « **Reply #15 on:** December 05, 2010, 04:02:58 AM »

I had one years ago. I stupidly sold it to aquire a Ruger Red Label shotgun (that was not stupid though). It is a fine little shooting machine. And accurate if you keep the barrel tight. But, make sure you are assembling it properly (see post above). I wish I had that rifle back. I had a Banner 4x scope on it and the scope looked too big for the rifle. Now, having a scope that looks too big for the rifle seems to be in style. Oh well, it was and is a great little rifle.

EJ

Drilling Man · « **Reply #16 on:** December 06, 2010, 05:31:08 AM »

Mines a Belgium made model, and i like it a lot,

It's been a pretty good 22,

And although it shows some use,

It's honest use, so it doesn't bother me,

It wouldn't bother me to have a Japansesae made model, as long at it was accurate and reliable.

DM

williamlayton · « **Reply #17 on:** December 06, 2010, 11:57:07 AM »

DM
That is classically, classic.
Blessings

THE_HUNTERIAM · « **Reply #18 on:** December 06, 2010, 04:56:43 PM »

They are good guns. Had a Chinese one and it was trouble but the Browning Belgium one I have is awesome. My wife wants to steal it now, it is her favorite!

Glanceblamm · « **Reply #19 on:** December 08, 2010, 02:30:57 AM »

Glanceblamm (kick's self) While I dont remember the exact model, I passed on one of these (new) for $99. It was sold by Montgomery Wards.

I could have afforded it at that time but considered it kind of pricey when one could own a Marlin Glenfield for $38 w\scope.

I went middle of the road on this and chose a nylon 66 and had no regrets. Love the clean and simple lines of that Browning though.