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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/08/19/brad-hirschfield-obama-muslim-pew-christian-internet-propaganda/

 I wish it were as surprising as it is disturbing that nearly 20% of Americans now believe President Obama
 is a Muslim, but it’s not. Nor is it simply possible to explain the situation by asserting that that many Americans are kooks or idiots for believing it to be true, even though it is certainly not. So what is going on?

In a culture increasingly unable to distinguish between available data and reliable information, more and more Americans will think themselves justified in holding beliefs which have no basis in fact. And it is the glut of available data, available in far greater quantity and with far greater speed than most of us can handle intelligently, which contributes to the spread of absurd notions such as the one reported by this recent poll conducted by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life.

One might attribute the rise in those who think the president is a Muslim, up from 11% in March 2009, to Mr. Obama’s recent comments affirming the right of Muslims to build a community center and mosque near the site of the 9/11 attacks, but the poll was conducted before the president made those remarks. And the idea that these numbers are related to Mr. Obama backing away from his beliefs as a Christian has no support either, having given numerous speeches in the past 18 months in which he has spoken about his personal religious beliefs.

It has been said that the only difference between perception and reality is that it’s harder to change perception, and never has that been truer than it is right now. All of us have access to any information we seek with a few simple clicks of a mouse. But the fact that something is available to us doesn’t make it true and certainly doesn’t make it good for us. In fact, the more choices that we have as consumers of any product, and especially so when it comes to information, the more discriminating we must become as consumers.

In the case of the growing numbers of people who believe that President Obama is a Muslim, that means asking ourselves questions about how we came to hold whatever belief we have on the matter, upon what sources do we base the contention, do they include sources of information which differ from our own political views, and does our opinion about the president’s religious persuasion simply confirm all of our other opinions about him?
Answering those kinds of questions is how we move from being brain-dead propagandists who simply seek the “facts” which confirm that which we already believe, to intelligent consumers in a world suffering from too much available information and too little wisdom to know how to assess it.

Happily, we can all cultivate the needed wisdom by simply slowing down, gathering views from multiple perspectives and remembering that it’s not possible for any of us to be right all of the time. In fact, if you are never wrong, you are never learning, and unless you think you are God, there is always more to learn.

People need not approve of President Obama or anything he does, but when our beliefs about who he is are detached from reality, even the legitimate critiques we may have, can be written off as the ravings of fools. In a culture which thrives on intelligent critique, as all democracies do, that would be tragic.

The Internet demands new skills from us. Once upon a time, we fought hard to obtain bits of information in a world where news traveled slowly and even then reached only a select elite. That too was bad for democracy. Happily, that era has passed.

Now we must shift from being miners chiseling out precious nuggets of news, to sharp-eyed sifters who can distinguish between precious facts and the fool’s gold of cheap propaganda. When that shift happens, the country will be stronger, whoever happens to be president and whatever faith they happen to follow.

Brad Hirschfield is the author of "You Don’t Have to Be Wrong for Me to Be Right: Finding Faith Without Fanaticism," and the President of Clal-The National Jewish Center for Learning and Leadership.



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Re: Why 1 In 5 Americans Believes President Obama Is a Muslim......
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2010, 04:08:42 PM »
[yt=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jhx_2TqffE&feature=player_embedded[/yt]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jhx_2TqffE&feature=player_embedded

This will fire a few of you Guys up

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Re: Why 1 In 5 Americans Believes President Obama Is a Muslim......
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2010, 04:51:46 PM »
I look at a lot of differant issues as does many Americans.  

1.  He spent a good part of his life, (the formative years) living in a muslim society and going to a muslim school in Indonesia.
2.  He was registered as a musilm, in a country where you have to register your religious affiliation.
3.  He bowed and displayed a subserviant attatude to the Saudi King like a good Muslim.
4.  I saw a picture of him walking arm in arm with a Muslim leader, I can not remember who the leader was, but knowing the culture, they only do that with someone of their own beliefs.
5.  He is turning his back on the Isreali Prime Minester, and pushing Isreal to accept Hamas demands.
6.  Michelle Obama in one of her speaches alluded to Barack's true religion of Islam.
7.  In his book he says if times get bad he will embrace the religion of his father.

Therefore in my openion, If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck.  Seems many Americans agree with me.
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Re: Why 1 In 5 Americans Believes President Obama Is a Muslim......
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2010, 04:59:30 PM »
I replyed before watching the clip, that only reinforces the views I already had.
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Re: Why 1 In 5 Americans Believes President Obama Is a Muslim......
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2010, 05:13:12 PM »
Well, he certainly is not Christian. He's the best thing that has ever happened to the Godless nations of the world. He has disrespected Israel time after time urging them to give more land and sign treaties he knows his Godless brothers will not keep. He tells Israel they cannot build on their own land, and has sent the Godless palis $130 million in the past few months, I won't say for what. Sounds like muzzie to me. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: Why 1 In 5 Americans Believes President Obama Is a Muslim......
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2010, 05:18:29 PM »
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http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28



I posted this on the thread, where his loyalties lie. Look at it if you can stand to. Sickening. Then form your opinion. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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Re: Why 1 In 5 Americans Believes President Obama Is a Muslim......
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2010, 05:35:14 PM »
I know he is a liar! I dont care if he is a muslim! The video Tommyt posted is an eye opener.

It certainly would explain a few things!
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Re: Why 1 In 5 Americans Believes President Obama Is a Muslim......
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2010, 05:40:54 PM »
http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=94331
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Re: Why 1 In 5 Americans Believes President Obama Is a Muslim......
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2010, 05:50:54 PM »
45454. If he were a Christian he'd never associate himself with a party that advocates homosexual marriage and killing babies for birth control. Christian to osama is only a word. His deeds show what he is.  POWDERMAN.   :o :o
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Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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Re: Why 1 In 5 Americans Believes President Obama Is a Muslim......
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2010, 07:09:17 PM »
4.  I saw a picture of him walking arm in arm with a Muslim leader, I can not remember who the leader was, but knowing the culture, they only do that with someone of their own beliefs.

Therefore in my openion, If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck.  Seems many Americans agree with me.

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Re: Why 1 In 5 Americans Believes President Obama Is a Muslim......
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2010, 07:16:21 PM »
45454. If he were a Christian he'd never associate himself with a party that advocates homosexual marriage and killing babies for birth control. Christian to osama is only a word. His deeds show what he is.  POWDERMAN.   :o :o
There are a ton of Christian democrats.

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Re: Why 1 In 5 Americans Believes President Obama Is a Muslim......
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2010, 07:39:10 PM »
45454. If he were a Christian he'd never associate himself with a party that advocates homosexual marriage and killing babies for birth control. Christian to osama is only a word. His deeds show what he is.  POWDERMAN.   :o :o

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Re: Why 1 In 5 Americans Believes President Obama Is a Muslim......
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2010, 08:00:38 PM »
Evangelical leader Franklin Graham, son of famed presidential religious adviser Billy Graham, said Thursday that he believes President Barack Obama is a Christian, but that the president was born a Muslim because of his father's religious beliefs.

Asked by CNN Chief National Correspondent John King if he had any doubts about Obama's Christian faith, Graham, who has made controversial comments about Islam in the past, said the president's background is fueling the false perception that he is a Muslim.

"I think the president's problem is that he was born a Muslim, his father was a Muslim. The seed of Islam is passed through the father like the seed of Judaism is passed through the mother. He was born a Muslim, his father gave him an Islamic name," Graham said on CNN's "John King, USA."

"Now it's obvious that the president has renounced the prophet Mohammed and he has renounced Islam and he has accepted Jesus Christ.

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Re: Why 1 In 5 Americans Believes President Obama Is a Muslim......
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2010, 08:16:08 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2010, 09:32:11 PM »
Evangelical leader Franklin Graham, son of famed presidential religious adviser Billy Graham, said Thursday that he believes President Barack Obama is a Christian, but that the president was born a Muslim because of his father's religious beliefs.

Asked by CNN Chief National Correspondent John King if he had any doubts about Obama's Christian faith, Graham, who has made controversial comments about Islam in the past, said the president's background is fueling the false perception that he is a Muslim.

"I think the president's problem is that he was born a Muslim, his father was a Muslim. The seed of Islam is passed through the father like the seed of Judaism is passed through the mother. He was born a Muslim, his father gave him an Islamic name," Graham said on CNN's "John King, USA."

"Now it's obvious that the president has renounced the prophet Mohammed and he has renounced Islam and he has accepted Jesus Christ.
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Re: Why 1 In 5 Americans Believes President Obama Is a Muslim......
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2010, 04:53:14 AM »
45454. If he were a Christian he'd never associate himself with a party that advocates homosexual marriage and killing babies for birth control. Christian to osama is only a word. His deeds show what he is.  POWDERMAN.   :o :o
There are a ton of Christian democrats.

http://people-press.org/commentary/?analysisid=103

... and more & more, as many believers get wise to the GOP's cynical manipulation of them. Plus, some of them started paying attention to what Jesus actually said.

wreckhog makes an accurate point, here. With our two-party system, it's unlikely that either side will agree with you on everything... unless you let the parties determine what you believe, and in so doing become an ideologue.

BIG MISTAKE, that - next thing you know, you'll be calling your fellow citizens on the other side of issues, evil - a very big mistake, in my view.
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