Steyr M95 Question

[galster69]

I have a M95 Carbine that I'm looking to sporterize.  I'd like to make the stock a full length mannlicher and have tried adding an end cap to reach the correct length.  That turned out well, until I tried to bed the stock and used some pam on the bottom of the barrel.  Evidently not enough Pam, because the end of the barrel stuck to the end cap I fashioned out of some nice rosewood.  Needless to say the endcap broke off and I don't feel like taking the time to refashion and refit another.  I'd much rather buy a stock for the M95 long rifle and cut it down to the proper length.  My question is, does anyone know if the long rifle are the same rifle as the carbine just longer?  Will the carbine action and trigger guard fit into a long rifle stock?  One of the milsurp sites has a long rifle stock for $60 but they can't tell me whether or not my carbine will fit into the stock or not.  Any info anyone has will be greatly appreciated!

[Mikey]

galster:  for most rifles of that era, those designated as carbines were either shortened rifles or the same action made with a shorter barrel.  I could take the stock for a M96 Swede with a long barrel and do what you are thinking about with the carbine or shorter version, the M38.  Same for the 98 Mausers - some had shorter barrels than the earlier rifles but the actions are the same and I'll bet it will be the same for your Steyr.

BTW - I usually use a heavy paste wax as a release agent.  I think the spray on stuff is just too thin.  Sorry about that stock piece.

[mrussel]

galster:  for most rifles of that era, those designated as carbines were either shortened rifles or the same action made with a shorter barrel.  I could take the stock for a M96 Swede with a long barrel and do what you are thinking about with the carbine or shorter version, the M38.  Same for the 98 Mausers - some had shorter barrels than the earlier rifles but the actions are the same and I'll bet it will be the same for your Steyr.

BTW - I usually use a heavy paste wax as a release agent.  I think the spray on stuff is just too thin.  Sorry about that stock piece.

 I believe they are the same rifle,just cut down.

[galster69]

Thanks for the info guys!  I usually use the blue release agent that comes with the acraglas kit but opted to try the "pam" method recommended by a buddy because it seemed to be quicker and I would have to allow it to dry.  I should have known better since the release agent always works perfectly for me.  It's actually not a bad thing as it was my first try on a mannlicher stock and made a few small mistakes.  I'm a bit of a perfectionist and it would have bothered me until I replaced the stock anyway so now I have a 2nd chance on a fresh new stock!  I was talking to a friend last night and he reminded me that most of the steyr carbines were simply cut down long rifles with the Stutzens being the exception I believe.  Thanks again guys and I'll post a pic when I get er finished...oh sometime next year probably : D

[mrussel]

Thanks for the info guys!  I usually use the blue release agent that comes with the acraglas kit but opted to try the "pam" method recommended by a buddy because it seemed to be quicker and I would have to allow it to dry.  I should have known better since the release agent always works perfectly for me.  It's actually not a bad thing as it was my first try on a mannlicher stock and made a few small mistakes.  I'm a bit of a perfectionist and it would have bothered me until I replaced the stock anyway so now I have a 2nd chance on a fresh new stock!  I was talking to a friend last night and he reminded me that most of the steyr carbines were simply cut down long rifles with the Stutzens being the exception I believe.  Thanks again guys and I'll post a pic when I get er finished...oh sometime next year probably : D

 I wonder how many disasters have started out with the words "I tried X becuase a buddy recommended it and is started out faster/easier"   I do agree a first attempt at any project usually comes out with some flaws and the second attempt usually comes out much better. Good luck!