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Offline ironglow

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Question for Alaskans..
« on: August 23, 2010, 05:31:41 AM »
  Why is Murkowski out polling Joe Miller at this point when he seems to have by far, the best credentials?
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Re: Question for Alaskans..
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2010, 06:35:02 AM »
I believe it has something to do with the fact she is the incumbent.  Many people in Anchorage (Mostly people from California and Chicago) don't have a clue and just vote on name recognition.  Our problem is that Anchorage has 50% of the votes in the state.
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Re: Question for Alaskans..
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2010, 07:50:36 AM »
Quote from: Sourdough on August 23, 2010, 06:35:02 AM
I believe it has something to do with the fact she is the incumbent.  Many people in Anchorage (Mostly people from California and Chicago) don't have a clue and just vote on name recognition.  Our problem is that Anchorage has 50% of the votes in the state.

   Wow! I completely understand, Sourdough...Seems like that Big (wormy) Apple in the southeast corner of NY State controls the vote so much that it has thusfar been all but impossible to elect or even run a worthwhile candidate for statewide office. Seems like much of the unwanted flotsam & jetsam from upstate eventually floats down to that southeast corner. ::)
  Someday we're all going to organize up here.. and flush all our toilets at once!.. ;) :D ;D
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Re: Question for Alaskans..
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2010, 08:24:49 AM »
Same in WA state, The puget sound area ,olympia to Everett, control the rest of the state as well. Could be most states are bearing the same injustice. ALL counties regardless of population should have one vote in all state and federal elections where an electoral vote is used. That should level the playing field. Our goobernour gregwire is an ID10T.
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Re: Question for Alaskans..
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2010, 09:58:42 AM »
Things are looking up and we are hoping to upset her apple cart.  Joe Miller has come on pretty strong in the last week, and really moved up in the polls.  We are trying to get the Tea Party to concentrate on Anchorage.  Here in Fairbanks Joe is way ahead.  Lisa is considered a RINO, and we don't like her.  Her Daddy appointed her to fill his position in the US Senate.  Then when his term was up no other republicans would run against her in the primary.  I think her Daddy orcastrated that.  Then in the General Election we were faced with her or Tony Knowles.  And after eight years of dirty tricks and rolling over to the Feds by Knowles we had our fill of him so Lisa was elected overwhealmingly.  Now it's time for her to go.  She does have a small segment here in Fairbanks in her corner.  She did grow up here, and attended the same Catholic school Sky attended in Fairbanks.  She graduated from there and comes back and attends several fund raisers for the school each year.  So many of her classmates are still true to her, reguardless of her record, but they are a very small minority.

On a differant note.  Many of us was expecting Uncle Ted to retake his senate seat from Begich in four years.  Yes Ted Stevens was too old, we knew it and so did he.  What we expected was after everything settled down he would retire and let the Governor appoint someone to take his place.  And knowing him, he would have pointed out the person he felt could do the best job for the state.  That plane crash was a real shock to us.  He was known as the king of PORK, but he brought this state out of the poverty level, and from being 25 to 30 years behind the rest of the states into the modern world.  As a territory Alaska had been ignored.  The federal Government ruled with and iron hand, and very little revanue.  During statehood the Feds made lots of promises, but nothing ever came if it till Uncle Ted got into office.  Since the Feds would not live up to their promises, he was able to slid the funds out anyway to get some of the projects completed.  While the Feds was building Interstates all over the lower 48, we got one highway.  Actually they just joined two already existing roads, and called it a new highway.   
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Re: Question for Alaskans..
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2010, 10:51:01 AM »
We actually have four positions coming up tomorrow in the primary election that are real important to the state. 

1.  US Senate.  Seat held by Lisa Murkowski.  We are hoping Joe Miller can knock her out.

2.  Governor.  This seat is currently held by Sean Parnell.  Running against him on the Republican side is Bill Walker, and Ralph Samuals.  Parnell got into office when Sarah Palin was forced to resign.  Parnell is wishy-washy when we try and pin him down on the gas line issue.  Also Parnell called the Feds out on a states rights issue and then let them back him down.  He refused to stand up for the state.  Bill Walker is the only one running that is promoting an all Alaska Gas Line, that will help all the people in the state.  Ralph Samuals stands for what ever helps Anchorage.  On the Democrate side is Ethan Berkowitch, and Hollis French, I think French will get the Dems vote down in Anchorage.

3.  Lt Governor.  On the Republican side we have Eddie Burke, Bob Lupo, Jay Ramras, and Meade Treadwell.  The first two I have not seen or heard anything about, they are keeping a low profile and will probably only get a few votes.  Jay Ramras is a local businessman from here in Fairbanks.  Jay owns a big Hotel and a couple of restaurants.  He has been on the state legislature for eight years.  Jay is for anything that helps tourism.  If it is for development in the state Jay is against it.  Meade Tredwell and Bill Walker running for Gov are saying the same things.  Meade Treadwell is for an in State Gas line, and resourse development.  We have three Democrates and a Libertarian running, and I have not heard anything from any of them. 

4.  US House Seat.  Currently held by Don Young.  There is a person running against him, but I can not remember his name.  He has not put up much of a campaign, and I seriously doubt he can knock out the incumbent, who really needs to go.  He has been in the seat too long, and has gotten too arrogant.  He is the one sponsering the "Road to No Where" down in Florida.
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Re: Question for Alaskans..
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2010, 11:41:06 AM »
"Anchorage has 50% of the votes in the state." I understand where you are coming from. Albuquerque and Santa Fe has about the same percentage in my state and whatever they want they get. Since Pete retired everyone has a "D" in front of their name.  :P
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Re: Question for Alaskans..
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2010, 06:24:46 PM »
Up until today Lisa had not been going to the negative.  Today the polls show Joe Miller catching up, and some show him in the lead.  Lisa went on the Negative today.  We will see tomorrow how it goes.
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Re: Question for Alaskans..
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2010, 11:04:08 PM »
Some of us still aren't sure the whole seniority system will go away and tend to support Murkowski for that reason alone. Others I think find that she is a moderate Republican who they can support vs the Democrats etc. And for many she's a known quantity vs her opponent. I kinda like her and I don't think she has been in lock step with her dad who I did not like or vote for. On some items she's too liberal for me but I'm not a one issue voter.  I wasn't impressed with her office responses when I was seeking help for some Alaskans stranded in Nepal this spring. She was late and gave a boiler plate response. Sen Begich's office was extremely responsive to me and others and personally called our friends who were stuck in Nepal. I'm still torn on who to vote for.
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Re: Question for Alaskans..
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2010, 02:12:55 AM »
From here, Joe Miller looks like a good candidate. Looking over his bio, he seems to have sterling credentials which are the polar opposite of the Obamanites.
  http://joemiller.us/about/bio      As a veteran, I am impressed with his West Point commission, and his leadership in the first Gulf war, where he was awarded the bronze star.
  Certainly his Yale law school education and his degree in economics should keep the BSers in the senate from "pulling the wool over his eyes".
    Compared to Murkowski, he is not as well known in politics...and perhaps not as much in debt to other politicians.
  Evidently neither Murkowski or the Dems have found any thing egregiously wrong with him and the fact that folks such as Mike Huckabee, Mark Levin, Laura Ingraham and Sarah Palin, who all know such people on a personal level..have heartily endorsed him. ... Just my $.02
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Re: Question for Alaskans..
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2010, 10:37:42 AM »
I think everyone knows where I stand, I am 100% behind Joe Miller.  Lisa wanted to run as a Democrate back when she was ready to run for the state legislature, but her Daddy would not let her.  She is a RINO (Republican In Name Only) folks need to remember that.
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Re: Question for Alaskans..
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2010, 11:01:41 AM »
I was just talking to Michelle, she was telling me that as she was getting ready for work this morning they were reporting on National News, that Lisa Murkowski was ahead in the Primary race in Alaska.  That was at 9AM eastern time, but it was 5AM Alaska time.  Our voting locations had not opened at that time.  We are four hours behind the east coast.  How could Lisa be leading in the exit polls, when they don't even open for another three hours.

Alaska has a closed primary, and only registered republicans and registered undeclared can vote on the republican ticket.  As people are going in to vote today they are being told they are registered democrates and can not vote on the republican ticket.  These are people that have been registered as Republicans for 30 years or more.  Suddenly somehow folks are being moved from one party to another one with out their knowledge till voting day.  Smells like we have some irregulerlarities in our state elections office.
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What Is A Veteran?
A 'Veteran' -- whether active duty, discharged, retired, or reserve -- is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America,' for an amount of 'up to, and including his life.' That is honor, and there are way too many people in this country today who no longer understand that fact.

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Re: Question for Alaskans..
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2010, 02:20:59 PM »
Sourdough;
   Sure enough..if that's actually happening,something sounds like Chicago and smells like Democrat.
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Re: Question for Alaskans..
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2010, 07:19:47 AM »
Miller is ahead by a small majority, but absentee, and question ballots, have yet to be counted.  Final results will not be availiable till Aug 31.

The incumbent Sean Parnell will be running in the general election in Nov.  I was hoping Bill Walker would beat him in the primary.

Mead Treadwell will be running for Lt, Governor in Nov.  I voted for him as well.

Don Young, our sole US Reperasentative overwhealmingly beat his opponent in the primary.
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What Is A Veteran?
A 'Veteran' -- whether active duty, discharged, retired, or reserve -- is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America,' for an amount of 'up to, and including his life.' That is honor, and there are way too many people in this country today who no longer understand that fact.
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