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Thirty-three Chilean miners trapped
« on: August 25, 2010, 07:20:13 PM »
Chili has reached out to NASA for help. Given the amount of time it will take for Rescue the trapped 33 miners (possibly 4 months) closest it relates too is Astronauts on long space journeys. Fascinating.  If successful it will be longest any trapped miners will have lived underground.

My prayers are with the miners and their families.

NASA, We Have A Problem

As the 33 men enter their twentieth day of accidental captivity fully aware that they may be trapped underground longer than any other miners in history, Chilean officials are looking for space-age help from NASA to keep the miners physically and mentally healthy.

The men are trapped in a hot, humid 600-square-foot shelter nearly a half mile below ground. The space is too small and too poorly ventilated for the men to sleep there so they sleep in other parts of the mine. There is no toilet and so the men are using a tunnel further away.

"This situation is very similar to that of the astronauts who are in space stations for months," Chile's health minister Jaime Manalich told The Santiago Times. A NASA spokesman told The Houston Chronicle the agency was prepared to help and is reportedly considering the best way to do so. Rescuers have been communicating with the miners through two small holes drilled down to the shelter.

Now that the miners know they face a months-long journey inside the cramped mine, they have requested and received diversions like a domino set and several packs of playing cards. They have also requested that wine be sent down so they can celebrate the country's independence day, which isn't for another month.

Astronauts on the International Space Station generally spend around six months in very cramped quarters with only a handful of fellow crew members, according to NASA.gov. Psychological counseling was available at the site of the mine as early as Monday, along with doctors to monitor the miners' physical health.

"We all need and are used to a certain amount of physical and psychological space around us," Simon Rego, director of Clinical Training at the American Institute for Cognitive Therapy, told ABC News Monday. "As a result of being trapped, both of these variables will be compromised, along with other 'freedoms' that we normally take for granted."

Another practical reason not to cut the NASA program and budgets. Thank god they will be able to rely upon their expertise with this very difficult situation.
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Re: Thirty-three Chilean miners trapped
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2010, 03:04:03 AM »
I hope these guys get out safely.
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Re: Thirty-three Chilean miners trapped
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2010, 03:59:09 AM »
I have issues with being stuck in a hole in the ground. :-\
I'd be going bonkers right now. :P
I hope they get them out.
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Re: Thirty-three Chilean miners trapped
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2010, 04:28:45 AM »
The miners were told yesterday to keep the weight off or they might be too big to get out. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: Thirty-three Chilean miners trapped
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2010, 05:33:14 AM »
I've been following this in the news.  Seems like they have now drilled 3 6" holes down to them.  Air, water, food, light, etc.  They want to put them on an exercise program to help make sure they could make through the tube.  Seems the tube is actually bigger than 35" but the "torpedoe" or whatever they call it that they would have to ride in is only that big.  Heck, my shoulders wouldn't make 35" and still allow me to breath for that long.  They'd have to send down a Dr. to take and arm off...   maybe a liposuction team too...

I can't imagine being down there that long.  Seems they used a shaft for a latrine, had some running vehicles they could use for power a little bit and some emergency rations too.  Man that would SUCK!  I hope they get all get out.  It would really suck to be the one fat dude.


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Re: Thirty-three Chilean miners trapped
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2010, 05:37:33 AM »
I have issues with being stuck in a hole in the ground. :-\
I'd be going bonkers right now. :P
I hope they get them out.

I'm with you on that one.  I've got serious claustrophobia issues.  I remember having nightmares about crawling under my grandma's house (her house was on blocks) and the opening being too small to fit back through when I went to crawl back out.

Hope they make it out safe.

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Re: Thirty-three Chilean miners trapped
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2010, 09:31:26 AM »
Health Minister Jaime Manalich said rescue workers had managed to finish a second narrow bore hole which will be dedicated to channeling drinking water to the miners and keeping communications flowing.

They are also preparing to drill a vertical shaft around 2 feet in diameter to evacuate the miners one by one via a pulley. The full scope of the wait has not yet been broken to the miners.

"It looks like we need to convince them they will have to wait three months, to the end of November," Manalich said.

I guess I dont understand mining. If they were able to complete a second hole the size of a grapefruit in a short amount of time why cant they just select one of these holes and increase the diamater? seems it would take less time than drilling a third brand new hole 2 feet in diameter through solid rock.

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Re: Thirty-three Chilean miners trapped
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2010, 04:23:37 PM »
24" evacuation shaft... Are these miners children or dwarfs?    :o   I'm not particularly large (5'7" & 155lbs) and I can tell you there ain't no way I'm squeezing threw a 24" hole even if I was smeared with bear grease.  :D
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