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Seems Mexican drug cartels are now executing illegals
« on: August 26, 2010, 12:48:25 AM »
In some cases with baseball bats. Who are you rooting for?

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Re: Seems Mexican drug cartels are now executing illegals
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2010, 01:07:49 AM »
If you condone murder then you're just as guilty as they are.
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Re: Seems Mexican drug cartels are now executing illegals
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2010, 01:20:36 AM »
If you condone murder then you're just as guilty as they are.
I doubt that.

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Re: Seems Mexican drug cartels are now executing illegals
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2010, 02:15:31 AM »
When criminals kill criminals I see it as a win win situation. Thanks for the thread wreck you started my day with a smile.
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Re: Seems Mexican drug cartels are now executing illegals
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2010, 02:52:28 AM »
HMMMM. Do we bury them if they homer over the fence????? ::) ::) ;D

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Re: Seems Mexican drug cartels are now executing illegals
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2010, 03:00:28 AM »
In some cases with baseball bats. Who are you rooting for?

Not 'rooting' for anyone, here - but this sounds to me like a horror. I feel badly for the victims and their families, those that weren't murdered with them. I don't see how this can be viewed as anything less than a horrible, bloody crime, the perpetrators deserving our contempt and the victims our sympathy.

When criminals kill criminals I see it as a win win situation. Thanks for the thread wreck you started my day with a smile.

I don't know the whole story - it may not be true - but this sounds very, very bad. People looking to cross the border to find work, are murdered - beaten to death, shot, however? - I hope the murderers are found and brought to justice. If the idea of news of murdered people makes you smile - what if one of them were your son, or your friend? - then you need to check your moral compass.
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Re: Seems Mexican drug cartels are now executing illegals
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2010, 03:54:17 AM »
When criminals kill criminals I see it as a win win situation. Thanks for the thread wreck you started my day with a smile.

So if you are going down the interstate speeding and a guy running from the law hits and kills you we should all smile ? That'd criminals killing criminals right  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Seems Mexican drug cartels are now executing illegals
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2010, 03:58:50 AM »
In some cases with baseball bats. Who are you rooting for?

Not 'rooting' for anyone, here - but this sounds to me like a horror. I feel badly for the victims and their families, those that weren't murdered with them. I don't see how this can be viewed as anything less than a horrible, bloody crime, the perpetrators deserving our contempt and the victims our sympathy.

When criminals kill criminals I see it as a win win situation. Thanks for the thread wreck you started my day with a smile.

I don't know the whole story - it may not be true - but this sounds very, very bad. People looking to cross the border to find work, are murdered - beaten to death, shot, however? - I hope the murderers are found and brought to justice. If the idea of news of murdered people makes you smile - what if one of them were your son, or your friend? - then you need to check your moral compass.
72 were found murdered in Mexico. 58 men, 14 women, no kids. In one house. One incident. The story is that it was cartel work. Who knows?

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Re: Seems Mexican drug cartels are now executing illegals
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2010, 05:17:30 AM »
they probably being killed because they won t tote  drugs accross the border..
 my thinking is along the line of yellow tails..

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Re: Seems Mexican drug cartels are now executing illegals
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2010, 05:22:42 AM »
If we would do some of that on this side of the border, we could put a stop to them crossing!
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Re: Seems Mexican drug cartels are now executing illegals
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2010, 05:27:43 AM »
In some cases with baseball bats. Who are you rooting for?


Get a life!

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Re: Seems Mexican drug cartels are now executing illegals
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2010, 05:31:42 AM »
Bigotry knows no end.....
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Re: Seems Mexican drug cartels are now executing illegals
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2010, 05:39:51 AM »
Bigotry knows no end.....

It ain't often that I agree with Swampy, but he's right in this case.  Anybody that condones this is a sick, twisted, husk of a person.

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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2010, 05:55:24 AM »
If ya can see it ya can hit it !

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Re: Seems Mexican drug cartels are now executing illegals
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2010, 06:59:17 AM »
My problem with the muzzys isn't about race.  It's about a religion that treats women worse than animals.
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Re: Seems Mexican drug cartels are now executing illegals
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2010, 07:12:00 AM »
Guys, this hits home for me.  As you know I have been very outspoken about Illigal immagration, but I aim that at Mexicans.  We had an Illigal become a part of our family a few years back and I have gotten an education about how things are down in Central America.  There is a lot of things going on down there that we are totally unaware of here in this country.  Where
Mexico's Government is unable to control things in Mexico, in places like Guatemala, Honduras, and San Salvador, the government is the problem.  I have been a very vocal anti illegal advocate, but I have to admit I was wrong in some of my views.  Some illegal’s have no choice but to immigrate to the US, or somewhere other than the country they were born in.

Salso lived in Guatemala.  He simply was looking for a better life and was attending college.  A government death squad one day appeared at the school.  They pulled everyone out of Mayan decent, lined them up along the street curb.  Then one man went down the line shooting young men at random.  When Salso's friend standing next to him screamed when his brother was shot, he too was shot.  Then the man put the gun to Salso's head and asked if he too wanted to scream.  Salso was told to leave the country, if he was ever seen again he would be shot on sight.  Then the entire group was told it would be a good idea if they all dropped out of school.  Mayans did not need an education anyway.  As the Government soldiers left the man doing the shooting turned and just took a pot shot at the group and hit Salso's brother.  Luckily it was only a flesh wound.

Salso and his brother made the trek from Guatemala to the US.  He had a lot of trouble getting across Mexico.  Seems the Mexican Government has very strict immigration policies towards their neighbors to the south.  They often shoot illegal’s crossing their southern border on sight.  While in Mexico he was robbed, beaten, threatened with jail, and did a lot of hiding only traveling at night.  Once in the US, Salso was caught near the border.  Being "Other Than Mexican" he was told to report to court on a certain date and released.  Salso immediately headed away from the border, and made his way to Tennessee.

Once in Tennessee Salso got a very good paying job as a welder working on building high rise buildings in Nashville.  Salso went back to school to finish his college education.  There he met my niece Sabrina, and  they were married a year later.  When Salso tried to apply for a green card he was told he had to return to Guatemala.  The application could only be made through the American Consulate in Guatemala City.  Salso returned to Guatemala, made his application, then hid out in the jungle for seven weeks to prevent being seen.  Once he got his Green Card approved he returned to Sabrina in Nashville.  Salso has since became a US citizen.  Salso also refused to teach his daughter Spanish.  He says she is an American and we speak English here not that Mexican language.
    
Today Salso has become one of my most treasured friends.  Salso is always there for my parents who are in their 80s.  Salso does more for them than the rest of my brothers that live there combined.  Far more than any of the Grandchildren who live in the area as well.

This young man that stumbled into the Mexican Marines base also was not a Mexican, but a young man from Ecuador.  Very similar to Salso.
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Re: Seems Mexican drug cartels are now executing illegals
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2010, 07:49:06 AM »
My problem with the muzzys isn't about race.  It's about a religion that treats women worse than animals.
I don't know a whole lot of Muslim women, but my kid is friends with a few families through school, and I worked for a Muslim owned company for many years. Frankly, the Harvard MBA Turkish Muslim owners were great to all the employees, even the Muslim women, but the Indian and the white Catholic sales people were the biggest aholes I had ever met in my life.

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Re: Seems Mexican drug cartels are now executing illegals
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2010, 08:48:54 AM »
Guys, this hits home for me.  As you know I have been very outspoken about Illigal immagration, but I aim that at Mexicans.  We had an Illigal become a part of our family a few years back and I have gotten an education about how things are down in Central America.  There is a lot of things going on down there that we are totally unaware of here in this country.  Where
Mexico's Government is unable to control things in Mexico, in places like Guatemala, Honduras, and San Salvador, the government is the problem.  I have been a very vocal anti illegal advocate, but I have to admit I was wrong in some of my views.  Some illegal’s have no choice but to immigrate to the US, or somewhere other than the country they were born in. ....

YOUR POST, Sourdough, is the most illuminating & useful one I've seen here today. Many people adopt an anti-immigrant political position, without a good grip on the whats and whys and detail. Some - we've seen it here - celebrate murder of Mexicans/Latin Americans, or dismiss it as being deserved - they're criminals! or somesuch.

Most are people trying to make it and provide for their families. Many become great citizens, friends, and family (your case).

thanks for the post, Sourdough - thanks for telling the story. I'm glad Salso is here as one of our fellow citizens & brothers.
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Re: Seems Mexican drug cartels are now executing illegals
« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2010, 09:07:55 AM »
SOURDOUGH. I too have an illegal in the family. My neice married one, he's been here 14 years using false identities and SS #. My neice has visited his family in mexico. No money problems there, family is pretty well to do, so some are here just because they want to be. He seems to have no problems breaking and disregarding our laws. I went to the wedding, even smiled and shook his hand, but I aint happy about it. POWDERMAN.  ::) ::)
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« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2010, 09:15:02 AM »
Who cares. Cuts down on the numbers availability we have to support. Gooberment needs to militarize BOTH borders.I volunteer for 30 days on and 30 days off.

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Re: Seems Mexican drug cartels are now executing illegals
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2010, 09:22:08 AM »
I don't give a damn what is going on in any of those countries. This is not their country! We can be PC and tolerant and let them take over this country and turn it into the sewer they left. The story that guy told sourdough may or may not be true. But just designed to get you on his side.
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Re: Seems Mexican drug cartels are now executing illegals
« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2010, 10:17:45 AM »
Gooberment needs to militarize BOTH borders.I volunteer for 30 days on and 30 days off.

Are you ready to kill people coming here looking for work?
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Re: Seems Mexican drug cartels are now executing illegals
« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2010, 10:41:56 AM »
 Mexico itself shoots illegals on their southern border , or imprisons them. The illegals from ALL countries are bleeding this nation dry. And if the corrupt government of this nation will not defend the USA then yes, I am ready to kill to defend it. What other western nations have as large of a problem with foreign criminals as the US ?

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« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2010, 10:51:53 AM »
Institutionalized and condoned/sanctioned abuse and torture of women is what I'm talking about TM7.  That's not bigotry.  Hating hispanic people and gleefully reporting their death is bigotry.  The whole "illegal" issue is bigotry and nothing more nor less.
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« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2010, 11:31:00 AM »
At times some of you really lack in Christian compassion. Sad.
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« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2010, 11:39:12 AM »
Gotta love people who condone criminal activity.You know, like our gov't.

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« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2010, 11:52:27 AM »
Are you ready to kill people coming here looking for work

Hell yes!
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Re: Seems Mexican drug cartels are now executing illegals
« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2010, 11:54:34 AM »
Gotta love people who condone criminal activity.You know, like our gov't.

Not all laws are of the same importance.  Speeding is breaking the law.  Jaywalking is breaking the law.  Every law broken doesn't deserve death as a penalty.  Just saying that they broke the law doesn't justify and and all mistreatment you can imagine.

Heck YOU YOURSELF in another thread less than two hours ago regarding the EPA banning lead shot:

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Even if this junk legislation goes through, I will not comply.

Would you deserve death for that?  Afterall, you'd be one of those filthy stinking law breakers too?  Or is it only ok to shoot the non-white people for breaking any law they disagree with?

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« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2010, 12:12:09 PM »
Anyone that thinks these people are crossing our border only to find work is stupid!
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Re: Seems Mexican drug cartels are now executing illegals
« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2010, 12:28:01 PM »
Where does the Constitution authorize the EPA (along with other alphabet agencies) to exist or even pass legislation? Speeding can be criminal but its not, tell me you have never broke the speed limit, even once.Jaywalking is not criminal.Your right, those do not mandate a death sentance. That to is why I advocate BOTH borders. It doesn't matter what color illegal foreigners are, they are destroying this nation to the tune of 30 billion a year in social services. The corupt gov't will not enforce the laws.1/3rd of our prison inmates are illegal foreigners. NOT those who go through the process of legal immigration.Tell me again how they are only here to do the jobs americans won't.
Alot of people here throw the term racist,hate, and bigot around without true merit.Seems alot of people here need a full explanation of opinions because of there willingness to wear Koolaid goggles. Sad that most in this nation just bend over for whatever popular movement is on the news. However for your personal enjoyment there is an ignore button free for the pressing.