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Offline j two dogs

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Would an Arasaka be considered a Mauser action?
« on: August 29, 2010, 12:11:30 PM »
Title says it for me. Just wondering?
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Re: Would an Arasaka be considered a Mauser action?
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2010, 12:33:50 PM »
It is a design that copys and modifies a mauser, but like a springfield I would put it in the military action category.
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Re: Would an Arasaka be considered a Mauser action?
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2010, 04:35:21 AM »
Looks aside, the Arisaka is not only a Mauser, it is perhaps THE STRONGEST Mauser action made.
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Re: Would an Arasaka be considered a Mauser action?
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2010, 07:10:11 AM »
nope, not a mauser action. there are some similarities, but still not a mauser action of any kind.
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Re: Would an Arasaka be considered a Mauser action?
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2010, 07:11:56 AM »
Quote from: dogsoldier0513 on September 17, 2010, 04:35:21 AM
Looks aside, the Arisaka is not only a Mauser, it is perhaps THE STRONGEST Mauser action made.
kinda like calling a howa action a remington 700 or vice versa. similarities but not the same
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Re: Would an Arasaka be considered a Mauser action?
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2010, 05:44:50 PM »
    Mauser or not, I have a type 38 that I had rebarreled in 260 Rem. With a nice stock and a Timney side safty trigger under it, It out shoots any of the other guns I own.
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Re: Would an Arasaka be considered a Mauser action?
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2010, 07:01:09 AM »
Quote from: mrbigtexan on September 17, 2010, 07:11:56 AM
Quote from: dogsoldier0513 on September 17, 2010, 04:35:21 AM
Looks aside, the Arisaka is not only a Mauser, it is perhaps THE STRONGEST Mauser action made.
kinda like calling a howa action a remington 700 or vice versa. similarities but not the same

http://www.surplusrifle.com/arisaka/index.asp
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Re: Would an Arasaka be considered a Mauser action?
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2010, 03:46:20 PM »
The link CLEARLY says it is a VARIATION of the Mauser design ,it does not say it is a Mauser that is called an Arisaka ! That does NOT mean it is a Mauser.
Strong rifle ? supposed to be.Similarities yep, MAUSER  NO.
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Re: Would an Arasaka be considered a Mauser action?
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2010, 04:53:20 PM »
No.
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Re: Would an Arasaka be considered a Mauser action?
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2010, 03:14:47 AM »
   I took my rebuilt Type 38 Jap. Deer hunting this season. Everyone that saw it loved it but could not identify it. They all thought it was a Mauser! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
   BTW In 260 Rem with an ER Shaw barrel and a Timney side safety trigger, My Jap. is the most accurate rifle I have ever shot. I shot a deer at 220 yrds, held dead on and dropped it in it's tracks. ;D Bullet preformance was great, No heart or lungs left and a nice exit hole too.
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Re: Would an Arasaka be considered a Mauser action?
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2010, 01:44:16 PM »
When I go to the local range and pull out the 98 it is imediately recognized as a Mauser. Not so much the Arisaka. I get a lot of what in the world is that? about the JAP.

Engineered by Germans for the Japanese, but NOT a Mauser.
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Re: Would an Arasaka be considered a Mauser action?
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2011, 08:05:13 AM »
The word Mauser is sort of like aspirin or Xerox, it's used a little more freely than it really should be.  And ditto Bingo, I had one I put in 6.5X55.  It was outrageously accurate and loads could be stepped up quite a bit from Swedish data.  I'm new to the forum, names's Doug, enjoy reading and yakking about guns, reloading, hunting etc.
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Re: Would an Arasaka be considered a Mauser action?
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2011, 10:20:18 PM »
Sorry guys but I disagree. The springfield was close enough to the mauser that we ended up paying royalties! and the Arisaka is just as close. The mauser patents covered such things as a flush mounted box magazine with the capability to load with stripper clips,,as does the Arisaka. The 2 forward locking lugs and 90 degree locking, ditto the arisaka.. The Arisaka's bolt is drastically different and much simpler. The trigger is very similar... Had Herr Mausers patents still been in force.. the Japanese would likely have joined us in paying royalties.. Is the Arisaka a Mauser, strictly speaking no, it's a mauser clone..
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Re: Would an Arasaka be considered a Mauser action?
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2011, 03:46:17 AM »
Quote from: gunnut69 on April 22, 2011, 10:20:18 PM
Sorry guys but I disagree. The springfield was close enough to the mauser that we ended up paying royalties! and the Arisaka is just as close. The mauser patents covered such things as a flush mounted box magazine with the capability to load with stripper clips,,as does the Arisaka. The 2 forward locking lugs and 90 degree locking, ditto the arisaka.. The Arisaka's bolt is drastically different and much simpler. The trigger is very similar... Had Herr Mausers patents still been in force.. the Japanese would likely have joined us in paying royalties.. Is the Arisaka a Mauser, strictly speaking no, it's a mauser clone..
Well put.  8)
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Re: Would an Arasaka be considered a Mauser action?
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2011, 12:53:51 PM »
Quote from: gunnut69 on April 22, 2011, 10:20:18 PM
Sorry guys but I disagree.

Me too.  Mauser's design was a true inspiration.  It was, design wise, way ahead of all the countries that 'copied it' in some way, shape, manner, or form - like the US, Japan, USSR, etc. - except maybe Brits with the Lee-Enfield line.  WWI ended the much deserved royalty payments.
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Re: Would an Arasaka be considered a Mauser action?
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2011, 03:01:06 AM »
the Arisaka actions were so strong P.O. Ackley couldn't blow em up during his testing, the barrel threads would strip and the barrel would shoot off.
 
He blew everything else to smitherenes----overloading powder and obstructing barrels.
 
that is the preferred action to build a custom 45-70 bolt action, great for hogs, bears, even elk
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