Omega issue

[simplicity]

I have a TC Omega the stainless fluted barrel with the laminated grey thumbhole stock.  I have not been able to get this rifle to shoot below 6 inches at 100 yards I bought the gun new.  The other tc muzzle loaders I have had in the past have shot much better then this one. I've tryed both the 250 and 300 shockwaves (mylast encore loved the 250's with 150gr charge)  I've tryed weight charges from 90-150 grains and still have had no luck. I notice that when I seat the bullet as it slideds down the barrel I can feel high and low spots in the rifling. My question is Do you think TC would replace it due to all of this under warranty? Or should I just get out from under it and get a different rifle all together?  as far as another TC I really don't care for the feel of the triumph. Thanks

[Buckskins & Black Powder]

A rough bore is pretty typical for a TC. You can either call them and ask them what to do, or try lapping the bore with JB Bore paste.  I'd call them first and see what they think

[DennyRoark]

T/C thumbhole laminate stocks are pretty notorious for sloppy fit.  The action moves around every shot.  This will be evident with a wide pattern (bedding will fix this).  If the barrel has large and small sections in it, it will show up as an up and down string due to varying pressures.  If it's just rough a lilltle polishing with a MILD abarsive and steel wool saturated with oil should help.  Try some different sabots for fit.  If it is a fifty, maybe all you need is a .452 bullet.  Had combinations of these problems with 2 different X-7's.  And yes, T/C will try to fix it for you.  Talk to someone in the custom shop, not the receptionist.  Oh, and quit using the bore butter.  My old Black Diamond would drive tacks after 20 or so shots to burn out the bore butter each time!

[simplicity]

First off thanks for the replys, the bore itself is not rough the rifle is almost brand new the bore looks great. Like I stated you can feel it when you load it aka when your slideing the bullet down to seat it.  I don't use bore butter never have never will. I clean it after every shot   always got the best accuracy with my past muzzle loaders that way and my father used to shoot black powder matches when I was younger ( so I have proper how to get one to shoot imbeaded in me lol)  I only live about a hour and a half drive from the fox ridge store I might end up going dow there this weekend.  The groups I'm getting just aren't consistant they are just all over the place.  I enjoy long range stuff and being able to make effective kills at 200yrds hence why I opted for the thumbhole. But I can't start working with it until i can get it to shoot I won't take it on a hunt unless I can.

[Buckskins & Black Powder]

hey what primers were you using?

[k]

A rough bore is pretty typical for a TC. You can either call them and ask them what to do, or try lapping the bore with JB Bore paste.  I'd call them first and see what they think

here we go with your no expierience BS again .how many T/C's have you owned to make such a BS statement.

[poncaguy]

Mine does very well with  two IMR White Hots and 250 Grain Shock Wave, did well with 120 of Buckhorn 209 also.........

[Buckskins & Black Powder]

A rough bore is pretty typical for a TC. You can either call them and ask them what to do, or try lapping the bore with JB Bore paste.  I'd call them first and see what they think

here we go with your no expierience BS again .how many T/C's have you owned to make such a BS statement.

Thats no  BS statement. Heck, people jb bore paste them just to get a sabot down  the tight bores.  The owner says he can feel high and low spots when hes pushing the bullet down. The jb bore paste will help take those down i would think.

[simplicity]

As far as the high and low spots there are three specific high and three low spots about mid way. As far as the rough rough bore statement  well I've never seena a new tc come out with a rough bore.  With this particular rifle  I don't think polishing the bore would do anything, like I stated before the bore itself looks great. All of the muzzle loaders I have owned have been TC's. The only reason why I have changed muzzle loaders in the past was to either change over to stainless (more resistant to elements) And  I have found it seems to clean easier) or design to make cleaning easier. I also like to get new guns just so I can develope loads in each and find out what ones they like.

[Buckskins & Black Powder]

bumpy bore, rough bore, high , low spots. what ever you want to call it.  I figured maybe the jb bore paste would help "cut" those area's down for you.

[k]

simplicity-i would send it back to T/C and have them look it over,if they find a problem they will fix or replace it.

bigblock;J-B bore cleaning compound is not a lapping compound and does not remove metal from a bore.J-B is an excellent cleaner/polish that i use on all my guns bores

[simplicity]

Well I'm heading down to Fox Ridge tomorrow, I hope they willl do something  and if not well there are a few gunshops to stop at on the way home to find it a new home, and I hate to say it but probl get replaced by a savage.

[simplicity]

Well needless tpo say Fox Ridge didn't find anything wrong with the Omega so hence it didn't make it home with me, but the good news is I have a savage muzzle loader on it's way. I've heard of some impressive results from them with smokeless and the no mayjor cleaning really appealed to me, So I ordered a stainless synthetic stocked version.