Author Topic: Whack Job - Photo Updates (Read 2280 times)

Bayou Stalker · « **on:** August 31, 2010, 05:24:30 AM »

I just don't get it. You guys talk about something, and the next thing you know I must have it...

I have a 22" .357 Magnum barrel on a .410 Tamer fame/stock that is used by my wife and kids when they want to tag along on a deer hunt. It is very barrel heavy and doesn't balance well at all, in fact my 10 year old daughter has to use a shooting stick with it. After reading up on the information here: http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com I decided that a 16" barrel would work great (16.25" to be safe). So, I dropped it off at the gunsmith yesterday for a $50 5.75" whack job and 11 degree crown. I'm also replacing the red dot with a real scope and moving the targets from 50 yards to 100.

My 10 year old daughter bagged this 275 lb. boar with it last year at 30 yards, right through the pumping station. A complete pass through using Federal Premium w/140 grain Barnes Expander bullets.

This is what it looks like now. 16.25" barrel and a Redfield Revolution 2-7X33, and I hope to add a range report tomorrow.

necchi · « **Reply #1 on:** August 31, 2010, 05:43:37 AM »

Great Photo,,

that's the way ta raise'm,,

petemi · « **Reply #2 on:** August 31, 2010, 06:40:26 AM »

A really great thing to do with your kids

While it's at the gunsmith's have him ream it to Maximum.....you won't regret it.

Here's my 16.5 inch .357 max.

Pete

Bayou Stalker · « **Reply #3 on:** August 31, 2010, 08:15:34 AM »

Quote from: petemi on August 31, 2010, 06:40:26 AM

While it's at the gunsmith's have him ream it to Maximum.....you won't regret it.

I asked, but he did not have a max reamer. He did say he was going to look and see if he could used a straight reamer that he had on site to lengthen the chamber, but that didn't sound like a good option to me... Maybe in the hands of a smith that might work, I don't know...

petemi · « **Reply #4 on:** August 31, 2010, 08:36:51 AM »

Rent the reamer from the forum and do it yourself. See the FAQs. Everyone says it is easier than falling off a log. The big thing is don't miss it. The Maxi really makes it a fun, versatile rifle......that's why I only have two.

Pete

bikerbeans · « **Reply #5 on:** August 31, 2010, 09:57:00 AM »

From your Subject title I thought you knew my first wife!

Short Handi's are great and it will make it easier for the wife and kids to shoot. And if you follow Pete's advice and ream to Max your daughter should be able to do a double tap next time.

BB

dpe.ahoy · « **Reply #6 on:** August 31, 2010, 12:09:04 PM »

Love the look on that girls face! DP

Lon371 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 31, 2010, 01:46:13 PM »

Great picture. My 17 year old boy said that's not right

Remember to post up new picts with her and the shorty

Lonny

Dinny · « **Reply #8 on:** August 31, 2010, 06:38:28 PM »

Be careful with that rifle.....While you're considering the Maxi, also keep in mind the limitations of that SB1 frame. It is all too tempting to push the Maxi real hard sometimes.

Note: I hope I'm not wrong, that is a SB1 frame, right?

Please tell your daughter we're all real proud of her. Having a 1 y/o daughter, I dream that she will follow in my footsteps and be a hunter too, unlike her mother. $:-\$

Your daughter is a great inspiration to her peers. Great job in raising her right!

Thanks, Dinny

jeepmann1948 · « **Reply #9 on:** September 01, 2010, 03:00:56 AM »

Great job Young Lady!!! I will bet that nice smile on your face was nothing in comparison to your Dad's.Keep up the good shooting. Do Not worry your Dad will get a second job if necessary to keep you in Handi's

Guess I should include a note to Dad ,
Great job ,

Bayou Stalker · « **Reply #10 on:** September 03, 2010, 01:35:12 PM »

Quote from: Dinny on August 31, 2010, 06:38:28 PM

Note: I hope I'm not wrong, that is a SB1 frame, right?

It is a SB1, but I don't currently reload and won't take it to a maximum until I start. I have some SB2 frames for when the time comes.

Dinny · « **Reply #11 on:** September 03, 2010, 02:42:50 PM »

Quote from: Bayou Stalker on September 03, 2010, 01:35:12 PM

It is a SB1, but I don't currently reload and won't take it to a maximum until I start. I have some SB2 frames for when the time comes.

Better be safe than sorry. BTW, it looks great!

Thanks, Dinny

Bob Tobergte · « **Reply #12 on:** September 03, 2010, 03:23:02 PM »

Heres mine in .223 that was cut by a good feller on here. I dont have permission to use his name but he did a fantastic job on it.
Its cut to 16.5 inches & makes for a great truck gun.

bikerbeans · « **Reply #13 on:** September 03, 2010, 04:14:13 PM »

Bayou,

Your new shorty looks great! I bet it shoots as good as it looks. Your daughter is really going to like shooting that gun with the short barrel, assuming her dad gives her some trigger time.

BTW, I have 3 of the new Redfields and they all are working great, I think they are a good scope for the $$$.

BB

Lon371 · « **Reply #14 on:** September 03, 2010, 05:30:44 PM »

Like the new and improved! Looks real good.

Lonny

Spanky · « **Reply #15 on:** September 03, 2010, 06:39:10 PM »

Quote from: Dinny on August 31, 2010, 06:38:28 PM

Be careful with that rifle.....While you're considering the Maxi, also keep in mind the limitations of that SB1 frame. It is all too tempting to push the Maxi real hard sometimes.

Note: I hope I'm not wrong, that is a SB1 frame, right?

Please tell your daughter we're all real proud of her. Having a 1 y/o daughter, I dream that she will follow in my footsteps and be a hunter too, unlike her mother. $:-\$

Your daughter is a great inspiration to her peers. Great job in raising her right!

Thanks, Dinny

FWIW the max used to be factory chambered on the iron frame.

Spanky

gcrank1 · « **Reply #16 on:** September 04, 2010, 04:57:47 AM »

FWIW, arent they cast STEEL, not iron, with the SB-2 forged steel?
Cast iron is too brittle to use as a gun frame.
Im pretty sure this has been covered ad naseum, and is the FAQs, but it keeps coming up.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #17 on:** September 04, 2010, 06:14:10 AM »

SB1 is cast iron with no heat treatment, SB2 is heat treated investment cast alloy steel, this has been confirmed by my H&R contact.

Tim

gcrank1 · « **Reply #18 on:** September 04, 2010, 06:30:29 AM »

I sit corrected.
Guess I should have checked the FAQ again as to the SB-2 being investment cast alloy, heat treated steel rather than forged, but I still have to question the cast iron vs cast steel (un-heat treated) part as cast iron is so brittle (in my experience, anyway), though I defer to your expertise.
I can let this dog lay.....

revbc · « **Reply #19 on:** September 04, 2010, 06:37:31 AM »

Dinny and Bayou Stalker,

The sb1 frame is plenty safe for the maxi up to listed max loads. Now there are some pushing the envelope. I think the listed max for aa1680 is 26.5 (with 180gr xtp) if memory serves me correctly and there are some folks shooting up to 30 grs. I would not recommend going over the listed max on the sb1 frame.

But up to the max she is sweet and will handle it with ease

By the way, Bayou Stalker glad to see some more handi folks close around. Great pic of a happy girl.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #20 on:** September 04, 2010, 06:47:25 AM »

Quote from: gcrank1 on September 04, 2010, 06:30:29 AM

I sit corrected.
Guess I should have checked the FAQ again as to the SB-2 being investment cast alloy, heat treated steel rather than forged, but I still have to question the cast iron vs cast steel (un-heat treated) part as cast iron is so brittle (in my experience, anyway), though I defer to your expertise.
I can let this dog lay.....

Here's his exact reply to my question when I asked.

Tim

Quote

The frames on SB-1's are ductile iron cast.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ductile_iron

Ductile iron, also known as ductile cast iron, nodular cast iron, spheroidal graphite iron, spherulitic graphite cast iron[1] and SG iron, is a type of cast iron invented in 1943 by Keith Millis.[2] While most varieties of cast iron are brittle, ductile iron is much more flexible and elastic, due to its nodular graphite inclusions.

gcrank1 · « **Reply #21 on:** September 04, 2010, 07:19:39 AM »

Thanx Tim, as always, the devil is in the details.
That explains a lot, with only a few words.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #22 on:** September 04, 2010, 09:23:57 AM »

bikerbeans · « **Reply #23 on:** September 05, 2010, 04:25:09 AM »

"ductile iron" frames? So SB-1s are made out used water mains?