Obama going After Sheriff Joe

[jimster]

Well, now you have the federal government suing schools, people in a state, sheriffs, they have stirred the pot using race in their politics, they have taken our wealth, you have many states passing laws to block the fed laws, you even now have democrate senators that now want to opt their states OUT of the health care legislation that they voted for...and let's not forget they openly sold their votes for our tax money right on camera and did not blink an eye.
At the same time they think they can rebuild someone elses nation...what a joke.

So when is Obama going to bring together this country again? Seems to me we are a lot worse off and more divided than ever under him, and tyranny is exactly what is going on from the legislation they pass, right up to going after American citizens. I don't think we could take another 6 months of this administration without something big coming to a head, and it's not the fault of the American people, it is the fault of goverment, they caused all the problems we have today.

 

[billy_56081]

Yellow, liberalism knows no color. If it were a race issue I would have to eliminate myself. As I am 1/16 Santee soiux and 1/8 black the rest german. Also Conservative knows no color. I just want to see those who want to destroy America destroyed.

[billy_56081]

Or excuse me I meant the previous post for old yellow.

[wreckhog]

Why doesn't Joe want to turn over the records?  [/b] [/i]

The federal government has no right to demand such things they have over extended their reach.
They are not authorized by the Constitution to do these things.
They have 3 functions provide for the defense, promote the general welfare, and count heads every 10 years.
Anything out side of these tasks is unconstitutional period.

Pat

Why is Joe cooperating if it is unconstitutional? Wouldn't that be illegal?

[BBF]

.......................... and it's not the fault of the American people, it is the fault of goverment, they caused all the problems we have today.

 

I beg to differ. It is exactly the voting population that brought this on.

 The USA wouldn't be the first country that ended up with a govt. that turned out very different then the people imagined they would get.

[lakota]

.......................... and it's not the fault of the American people, it is the fault of goverment, they caused all the problems we have today.

I beg to differ. It is exactly the voting population that brought this on.

 The USA wouldn't be the first country that ended up with a govt. that turned out very different then the people imagined they would get.

It is the government's fault. At least certain segments of it. They created an entitlement class and they keep growing it and fertilizing it as a dedicated voting block,  and when it reaches 51% well then I guess we are officially a socialist country

[Pat/Rick]

corrupt gooberment mandated, erosion of sovereignty.The US gov't has given away our jobs to bring failing nations and us to a level plane, turned over social programs to non-citizens, and purposely bankrupted our nation. They will just as readily surrender our way of life to the global organized crime group called the u.n. Good luck America.

[powderman]

corrupt gooberment mandated, erosion of sovereignty.The US gov't has given away our jobs to bring failing nations and us to a level plane, turned over social programs to non-citizens, and purposely bankrupted our nation. They will just as readily surrender our way of life to the global organized crime group called the u.n. Good luck America.

I fear you are right. POWDERMAN. 

[torpedoman]

sheriff Joe for president.

[saddlebum]

Or at least Attorney General !!!!   

[BBF]

Or at least Attorney General !!!!   

  I second that!

[Spirithawk]

Gee, you guys starting to feel like Indians yet? 

[saddlebum]

Yeper, Spirithawk!
Broken promises.
Broken treaties.
Broken rule of law.


Not so bad as with the Indians.....yet!

[lakota]

Not so bad as with the Indians.....yet!

Nope, but it probably isnt going to be long in coming...

[Hooker]

Why doesn't Joe want to turn over the records?  [/b] [/i]

The federal government has no right to demand such things they have over extended their reach.
They are not authorized by the Constitution to do these things.
They have 3 functions provide for the defense, promote the general welfare, and count heads every 10 years.
Anything out side of these tasks is unconstitutional period.

Pat

Why is Joe cooperating if it is unconstitutional? Wouldn't that be illegal?

No it's not illegal or un constitutional for Joe to cooperate.
It's only unconstitutional for the federal government to demand or force cooperation.
The Constitution draws a very thin line for government to operate on and the power that the government wields is a privilege granted by the people.

Pat

[Hooker]

Unless we are talking about hanging obama and all of his followers count me out.
I'm not into spanking hands for treason.

Pat

I was asked to tone this post down or modify it.
Let me assure everyone I meant no threat of violence against obama or his followers only that they be tried and punished to the fullest extent of the law.

Pat

[Range Rider]

Lets help Sheriff Joe out with a new workable border policy.  We could stop every Mexican at the Border give him or her a copy of the US Bill Of rights.  We would then issue them an M16 and 2 full clips of 5.56. After that send them back to Mexico.  Let them clean up the mess they have made in Mexico.  This might slow down moving their mess to the US.

[wareagleguy]

My question is why Sheriff Joe picks now to do something?  He has been there for years and did nothing.  I think he is another news whore trying to gather followers for whatever garbage he is working on. The only thing Joe cares about is Joe.

[jimster]

My question is why Sheriff Joe picks now to do something?  He has been there for years and did nothing.

I work with an engineer who came from Arizona and her family still lives there.  Me thinks you been sleepin...he has been famous out that way for doing all these things for a long time now.

Twas the media that just got on board....According to my source Joe has been on board for some time now, and this lady I work with says he is loved by the people he serves...or at least most of them.  That's why he is still sheriff.  Maybe someone from Arizona could weigh in on this...how long has sheriff Joe been "sheriff Joe"...?

Of course if you have any proof of Joe being a media whore...and not serving the people he works for...bring it forth...seems to me the feds made him a bit more famous than he wanted to be.
Note...I read an article over two years ago he was trying to charge the feds for keeping illegals locked up....figured it was their money that should pay to keep them. That was a couple years back at least when I read that.

[teamnelson]

Sheriff Joe has been loved by us for a long time, even over a decade or so ago when he made inmates wear pink, and pay for their expenses like shower shoes, toothpaste and food. If they didn't have $, they worked to pay it off, and stayed in until they were paid off. He played classical music. They slept in surplus Army tents, and when folks complained, he asked why should inmates have it better than our troops (as a "troop" I appreciated that sentiment). I went and visited the son of a family friend once who was serving a short bit of time at Joe's jail for acting stupid. He hated it, never wanted to go back ... and hasn't, which is a good sign to me.

If you lived in Arizona in the last 20 years, you know about Sherrif Joe. Just cause folks outside of Arizona haven't heard of him until recently doesn't bother us none. Of course, I'd never heard of Obama until the campaign, not being from Chicago myself. Would it be fair to call him a media whore?

[wareagleguy]

You guys may have a point.  I know of him from several news reports and the people he works for seem to love him (those who matter).  I just see everybody (Including Arizona) working on any angle to get his/her agenda push forward.  Everyone seems to work at getting the party into power instead of getting the problems solved.  Were I see it no one is going to do anything about illegals and a R, D, or I by the name makes no difference.  All just a bunch of hot air.

[saddlebum]

If you want to learn something about Sheriff Joe check your TV listings for MSNBC. They have been running a special that is all about Joe and his jail system. It puts you right in there with him. He has some good programs in place to help inmates and is in no way above showing some compassion where it is warranted. I just saw where he has a program to help female inmates have private time visits with their kids. I assume that the reason MSNBC did this show was to make Joe look bad. In my opinion it did just the opposite. Joe ain't lookin for attention. He's just doing his job, and very well I might add!

Joe is not the racist, mean guy that the liberal press and progressives try to make him out to be. He is stearn, strict and has great resolve to enforce the law. If the Feds would do their job of securing the border then Sheriff Joe would probably not need to have the extra tent facility to hold the overflow of criminals. But the tent holding facility is what the liberals pitch a fit about and the fact that he enforces the law TO THE LETTER. Including arresting illegal aliens who just happen to be the liberals 2nd favorite victims to champion. Blacks being 1st.

I admire Sheriff Joe and his resolve to do what's right and lawful in the face of opposition from crazy people!......JMO

[jimster]

Everyone seems to work at getting the party into power instead of getting the problems solved.

Ya, you do have a point there with that party thing, but the little guys are out there doing what they can, and anyone who takes on those in power now will be brought into the light pretty fast if they are doing something to really make them look bad. Sheriff Joe has made them look bad for a long time. He's got the highest power in the land after him, if going on an interview helps him somehow, it's better than nothing.  Look at what this administration has done to normal everyday people, I've never seen so much of this before, entire states trying to fight the feds by passing laws, blocking laws, writing new laws, just to protect themselves from what we elected. Go figure...it's a mess for sure. Wouldn't surprise me if they threw us in jail someday for these posts, Bush probably passed laws to make that happen, so careful what you say on here.  The Patriot act is not only in place, it has been strengthened. Obama and pals will take full advantage of that one. (and some progressives thought he would abolish it    

Anyway...Sheriff Joe sounds like he's been doing a good job and not costing tax payers as much as other places do. Could use him in Michigan as we spend too much money on jails.

    

[DDZ]

Good post Jimster, ya hit the nail on the head. They just hate it when someone speaks out against, or doesn't go along with their plan. Also they hate when someone speaks the truth and does what is right, instead of falling into place and accepting this administration's socialist ideas. The only way they have to silence the ones that make them look bad, is to go out and try to destroy them with gestapo tactics.   

[wreckhog]

Sheriff Joe has been loved by us for a long time, even over a decade or so ago when he made inmates wear pink, and pay for their expenses like shower shoes, toothpaste and food. If they didn't have $, they worked to pay it off, and stayed in until they were paid off. He played classical music. They slept in surplus Army tents, and when folks complained, he asked why should inmates have it better than our troops (as a "troop" I appreciated that sentiment). I went and visited the son of a family friend once who was serving a short bit of time at Joe's jail for acting stupid. He hated it, never wanted to go back ... and hasn't, which is a good sign to me.

If you lived in Arizona in the last 20 years, you know about Sherrif Joe. Just cause folks outside of Arizona haven't heard of him until recently doesn't bother us none. Of course, I'd never heard of Obama until the campaign, not being from Chicago myself. Would it be fair to call him a media whore?

Obama is a media whore. Most Dems heard of him at the 2004 convention. He gave a speech that made you think, holy crap, if this guy does not F up, he will be the first black Prez. Then Bush squandered 9/11, the Reps picked McCain over Romney, and Palin opened her mouth, which gave America Obama probably about 8-12 years before anyone thought that it would really happen.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/24/AR2008082401671.html

[teamnelson]

wh, can't argue with you there. Us Americans like our orators and candidates who look "presidential" cause they're "electable." Maybe not qualified, competent ... maybe actually horrifying if you knew what was going on behind the eyes ... but gosh they look good on camera. Issues? That's for grandstanding in front of the camera.

[Range Rider]

If you have not heard of Sherrif Joe over the past 20 years too bad.  Sherrif Joe has been a modern Paul Revere calling out a national problem.  The folks over in Washington have tried to ignore him.  Well that didn't work.  Obama will try the next thing in this debate.  Whats next? Well hell, kill the messanger.  This will be done with the help of the liberal media and leftest forums.  They will try to drive him out with slander. I am sure they will go back to his past.  They will drag out any thing he ever did.  He surely made some racist remark when he was in the first grade.  Hillery Clinton has taken the issue to the United Nations and ask for help.  How about that. Will UN forces attack Arizona?  Obama would like that.

[SHOOTALL]

A sheriff has alot of power under the law . This may get interesting in the long run .

[Old Fart]

A sheriff has alot of power under the law . This may get interesting in the long run .

Yes, it was my understanding that the sheriff is the highest law in a county.

[SHOOTALL]

A sheriff ansewers to law only .