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Re: Ellsworth gun
« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2010, 04:19:27 PM »
We have talked scope mounting for sighting cannons before, but using modern equipment and methodology.  This original system compliments that interest.

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Re: Ellsworth gun
« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2010, 04:24:02 PM »
I'll enter a picture for the artilleryman. His full scale 12lb. over looking the ellsworth gun.



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Your calendar shot says the big gun is a Napoleon.  It looks like a Parrott.  help me understand.
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Re: Ellsworth gun
« Reply #32 on: September 07, 2010, 02:12:11 AM »
The South was short of bronze.  To make Napoleons out of iron and keep the weight down they banded them.  Iron Napoleons and bronze Napoleons weigh about the same at just over 1300 lbs.  There were 120 Tredegar Iron Napoleons like this one built in the last 12 months of the war.  There are nine known to exist.   
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Re: Ellsworth gun
« Reply #33 on: September 08, 2010, 11:29:03 AM »


This photo may show the sighting system for the Ellsworth a little better.
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Re: Ellsworth gun
« Reply #34 on: September 11, 2010, 04:46:19 AM »
Artilleryman and Guardsgunner,

A bunch of thanks for taking the time to share and explain.  Your ammo alone is absolutely beautiful in form and function.
An incredible pair of very unique cannons!

   


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Re: Ellsworth gun
« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2010, 07:12:30 PM »
Thanks.
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Re: Ellsworth gun
« Reply #36 on: September 15, 2010, 03:18:19 PM »
Artilleryman,

What kind of rifling does your Ellsworth have? Do you ever worry about the sharp edges of the rifling ripping the foil when the charge is seated?
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Re: Ellsworth gun
« Reply #37 on: September 15, 2010, 03:52:09 PM »
To load I open the breech and insert the projectile seating the drive band against the rifling.  I then insert the foil wrapped powder charge into the chamber and close the breech.  The cartridge can't be torn by the rifling as it never comes in contact with it.
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Re: Ellsworth gun
« Reply #38 on: September 16, 2010, 01:59:30 PM »
Thanks Norm, I forgot about the breach loading aspect of the Ellsworth.
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Re: Ellsworth gun
« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2010, 02:17:57 PM »
Breechloading sure simplifies the sponging and loading process, and you don't need as many cannoneers on the crew.
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Re: Ellsworth gun
« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2010, 06:42:57 AM »
Artilleryman,

3 grove saw tooth rifling? 
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Re: Ellsworth gun
« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2010, 11:18:13 AM »
The rifling is the only thing that is not correct on the barrel. The original had 15 lands and grooves of near eaqual width. Their math didnt quite work out so one groove is narrow. 1 turn in 65 or so.
Because to make a rifleing head that will do 15 limits the number of types you can make, I made it to do 12 of equal width. The twist is near the same as the original. groove depth is the same at about .014.

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Re: Ellsworth gun
« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2010, 03:24:31 PM »
Thanks Guardsgunner,

Boy, that Ellsworth sure has a lot of nice features.  A real transition piece in technology.
Easy to see why it has become Artilleryman's favorite shooter.

Good luck to all the NSSA guys at Grayling!
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Re: Ellsworth gun
« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2010, 05:33:39 PM »
The Grayling shoot is a ACWSA shoot, but I figured you meant those of us that will be shooting artillery.
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Re: Ellsworth gun
« Reply #44 on: September 21, 2010, 01:19:48 PM »
The Grayling shoot is a ACWSA shoot, but I figured you meant those of us that will be shooting artillery.

Whoops, no disrespect intended, just good luck to all. 
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Re: Ellsworth gun
« Reply #45 on: September 21, 2010, 01:28:03 PM »
No offense taken.  Have fun in Virginia.
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Re: Ellsworth gun
« Reply #46 on: September 21, 2010, 02:40:40 PM »
Norm; what would be the approximate weight of the Ellsworth barrel and carriage combined?
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Re: Ellsworth gun
« Reply #47 on: September 21, 2010, 03:05:02 PM »
I was told the weight of the barrel was 300 lbs, and I estimate the carriage to weigh maybe 250-300lbs.
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