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Re: Why does our president leave his wife behind
« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2010, 03:23:43 AM »
Mrs. O has always made hay on the fact that she did her shopping at Target and similar stores. Even when she was a lowly working woman, pulling down $300k/year. I buy most of my clothes at Walmart, a fact that my wife never lets me hear the end of. Sadly, if you have a Walmart body and buy your clothes there, you look like you do.

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« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2010, 03:56:43 AM »
She's spoiled. Anybody that in the last couple years that just found out she's proud of her country, went on as many vacations, will not lower herself to their standards of a Muslim woman.
And by the way mrussel, we do get over 50% of our oil from other country's. But most of it comes from Canada or Mexico/Venezuela. I believe that of all the imported oil from the mid east is around 20-25%. Still to much. gypsyman
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« Reply #32 on: September 07, 2010, 05:24:11 AM »
 You want to stop having to play nice with the middle east,kick the oil habit


If you liberal eco freaks would let us drill where the oil is in this country, we could get off of Arab oil.
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Re: Why does our president leave his wife behind
« Reply #33 on: September 07, 2010, 05:34:33 AM »
Ya know....(shifts chaw from left cheek to right, spits)....I recall back in the day...(holds out coffee cup)....while yer pourin', top me off, would ya?.....that Ladybird Johnson took her share of insults.  Same for Pat Nixon.  We all know about Betty Ford....(pause to sip coffee).....Where was I?  Oh! yeah, Betty Ford...Ros Carter I don't recall getting much flak, but lordy, did Nancy R get laid into!  Barbara Bush got insulted because she looked so much older than GHW Bush, and Hillary really got trashed.  Laura, in spite of being a teacher and librarian was constantly insulted as a stay at home mom, June Cleaver, etc.  

So, why should Michelle get special treatment?  

We see this over and over with the Obamas ...  for some reason they are deserving of special treatment.  Don't judge Barry Steve by what he has done (what little of it we can find), but by what he promises to do.  And don't judge his ability to deliver on his promises by anything he has done in the past.  Leave the family out of it, but judge their intent on how they raise their family.  Contradiction after contradiction, and double standards piled high.
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Re: Why does our president leave his wife behind
« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2010, 05:38:19 AM »
You want to stop having to play nice with the middle east,kick the oil habit


If you liberal eco freaks would let us drill where the oil is in this country, we could get off of Arab oil.
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Not just that, but allow large solar projects, allow more experiments in tidal power, allow more wind power.  But all those get blocked because of concern for some sort of cockroach or flower or sea snail.  Or ruin the view for some Deem politician or movie star.
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Re: Why does our president leave his wife behind
« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2010, 06:06:08 AM »
Ya know....(shifts chaw from left cheek to right, spits)....I recall back in the day...(holds out coffee cup)....while yer pourin', top me off, would ya?.....that Ladybird Johnson took her share of insults.  Same for Pat Nixon.  We all know about Betty Ford....(pause to sip coffee).....Where was I?  Oh! yeah, Betty Ford...Ros Carter I don't recall getting much flak, but lordy, did Nancy R get laid into!  Barbara Bush got insulted because she looked so much older than GHW Bush, and Hillary really got trashed.  Laura, in spite of being a teacher and librarian was constantly insulted as a stay at home mom, June Cleaver, etc.  

So, why should Michelle get special treatment?  

We see this over and over with the Obamas ...  for some reason they are deserving of special treatment.  Don't judge Barry Steve by what he has done (what little of it we can find), but by what he promises to do.  And don't judge his ability to deliver on his promises by anything he has done in the past.  Leave the family out of it, but judge their intent on how they raise their family.  Contradiction after contradiction, and double standards piled high.
Babara Bush was deserving of the beat down. She looked like her husband's grandma. Laura got a pass from the press even though she killed more people than Dubya.

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Re: Why does our president leave his wife behind
« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2010, 06:43:04 AM »
i have never been a fan of people posting unflattering pictures of others in attempts to slander them or cast them in a bad light.   you saw it constantly with bush.   now you guys are doing it to obama.   like someone said, there are plenty of legitimate reasons to dislike the man on his policies.   this kind of behavor is repulsive and ignorant.   
   the smallness of some of you (especially billy and wreckhog) amazes me. 

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Re: Why does our president leave his wife behind
« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2010, 06:47:05 AM »

Babara Bush was deserving of the beat down. She looked like her husband's grandma. Laura got a pass from the press even though she killed more people than Dubya.
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Yeah, about as many as we know St. Teddy killed.  Difference there is that she didn't run and hide to sober up after the crash.
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Re: Why does our president leave his wife behind
« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2010, 08:46:38 AM »

  Now you can you climb down off that box,take off the sandwich board declaring "The end is near" and take your Thorazine.
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Now like a true liberal you insult me  because I dont share your world view.
As for Jeremiah Wright, Obama didnt distance himself from that whack job until he became a liability to his campaign. Jeremaih Wright didnt just become that way during the election cycle, he has been a nut job for years and Obama continued to attend his church. If Obama didnt agree with what was being said there, why didnt he find a new church years ago?
"...One realist Muslim ventured that Obama worships at a Unitarian Church because it represents the middle ground between Christianity and Islam, incorporating the religious beliefs of the two faiths Obama feels connected to. Unitarianism could be Obama’s way of still being a Muslim. (And let’s not forget that the church Obama worshiped at for so many years had a minister who reminds most Muslims of their own raving, excitable ministers. Even if Obama really is Christian, he picked the most Muslim-esque minister out of the bunch to guide him.)"http://bsimmons.wordpress.com/2009/02/26/my-muslim-president-obama/
"1. Barrack Hussein Obama was born to Generations of Muslims

2. Barrack Hussein Obama was raised for years in Muslim Nations

3. Barrack Hussein Obama attended Muslim schools, where he was registered as a Muslim

4. Barrack Hussein Obama wants you to believe that his opportunistic conversion to Christianity after being born to generations of Muslims who raised him for years in Muslim nations where he attended Muslim schools has completely eliminated his Islamic Roots and changed his Muslim sympathies.

5. Barrack Hussein Obama’s church of 20 years gave many awards to the radical, anti-white, pro-Islamic, Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan.

15. Obama’s teachers and the principal from the 1970′s: Obama actively took part in the Islamic religious lessons during his years at his school in Muslim Indonesia. “I remembered that he had studied “mengaji” (recitation of the Quran)” “The actual usage of the word ‘mengaji’ in Indonesian and Malaysian societies means the study of learning to recite the Quran in the Arabic language rather than the native tongue. “Mengagi” is a word and a term that is accorded the highest value and status in the mindset of fundamentalist societies here in Southeast Asia. To put it quite simply, ‘mengaji classes’ are not something that a non practicing or so-called moderate Muslim family would ever send their child to. To put this in a Christian context, this is something above and beyond simply enrolling your child in Sunday school classes.”

16.The Obama Campaign: told the LA Times he wasn’t a “practicing Muslim.” (3/14/2007). Why didn’t Obama’s campaign just say he wasn’t a “Muslim”?"http://bsimmons.wordpress.com/2008/09/13/proof-obama-was-muslim/










































































































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Re: Why does our president leave his wife behind
« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2010, 08:49:34 AM »
i have never been a fan of people posting unflattering pictures of others in attempts to slander them or cast them in a bad light.   you saw it constantly with bush.   now you guys are doing it to obama.   like someone said, there are plenty of legitimate reasons to dislike the man on his policies.   this kind of behavor is repulsive and ignorant.   
   the smallness of some of you (especially billy and wreckhog) amazes me. 

I agree. This type of thing is giving them the ammo they need to cast all those who oppose the left as racists
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Re: Why does our president leave his wife behind
« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2010, 09:02:32 AM »
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Laura got a pass from the press even though she killed more people than Dubya.

What an asinine statement!  ???

You cant be taken seriously when you mock legitimate discussion!

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« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2010, 09:09:44 AM »
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Laura got a pass from the press even though she killed more people than Dubya.

What an asinine statement!  ???

You cant be taken seriously when you mock legitimate discussion!


Do you know who she killed?

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Re: Why does our president leave his wife behind
« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2010, 09:17:50 AM »
Since I believe that to a be a scurrilous lie , I haven't a clue who that could be!

Enlighten us propaganda breath! Come get real or get out!
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Re: Why does our president leave his wife behind
« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2010, 10:49:07 AM »
I agree. This type of thing is giving them the ammo they need to cast all those who oppose the left as racists

Who gives a rats A__ if some lefty calls you a raciest! I sure as hell don't.
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Re: Why does our president leave his wife behind
« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2010, 10:59:20 AM »
 
Who gives a rats A__ if some lefty calls you a raciest! I sure as hell don't.
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way to represent yourself in a good light.  ::)  they are painting you as a beer swilling, uneducated, racist, ugly person and you are helping them do it.   of course, i know you dont care.  but you are not furthering your cause when you behave in that manner.  and, i know you dont get it; nor do you want to.  just know that it undermines those of us who do care and it empowers the very people you dislike.  you are playing right into their hand. 
 

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Re: Why does our president leave his wife behind
« Reply #45 on: September 07, 2010, 11:43:57 AM »
Truth be told, 99.999% of women over 50 look like tree bark to me. Women don't age well, something that they will freely admit.

Depends on the woman.  For the most part I'd agree, but you get some better examples.  Jane Seymour is 59 and this is a photo from this year:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jane_Seymour_2010_Oscars.jpg

She ain't perfect by any stretch, but she's holding up DARNED WELL for a woman that's almost 60.

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« Reply #46 on: September 07, 2010, 11:45:58 AM »
way to represent yourself in a good light.  ::)  they are painting you as a beer swilling, uneducated, racist, ugly person and you are helping them do it.   of course, i know you dont care.  but you are not furthering your cause when you behave in that manner.  and, i know you dont get it; nor do you want to.  just know that it undermines those of us who do care and it empowers the very people you dislike.  you are playing right into their hand. 

One of the more enlightened posts in the thread. 

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« Reply #47 on: September 07, 2010, 11:53:01 AM »
I agree. This type of thing is giving them the ammo they need to cast all those who oppose the left as racists

Who gives a rats A__ if some lefty calls you a raciest! I sure as hell don't.
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While I agree with you on not giving a crap what some leftist whiner thinks of me, you have to view some things from the prospective of the moderate or independant voter.

Perhaps someone is growing weary of the current situation and is gravitating towards the some of the things that the tea party or liberatarians or conservatives stand for...then BOOM they see something like this and think that seems racist and I dont want to be associated with racists so I will continue to vote democrat even though they dont fully represent my interests.
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« Reply #48 on: September 07, 2010, 12:05:45 PM »
We should never attack ones looks as they most often can't help it . One can't pick how they will look. However one can  pick who they travel with and where they go. This is the root of the question. Why not to muslim countries ?

Racists , now if we were free then those wanting to be racists would be allowed to do so. PC is mind control. I think that when PC is removed from America Racists will also fade . One supports the other out of stupidity and fear.
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« Reply #49 on: September 07, 2010, 12:32:18 PM »
If you want to let the PC crowd control you, that is your choice, as for me as I said I don't give a rats what they call me.
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« Reply #50 on: September 07, 2010, 12:45:10 PM »
it isnt about being p.c..   it is about arguing a point on it's merits; which is something the conservative view is supposed to be better at than the liberals.     it is a liberal tactic to belittle, laugh at, and ridicule others as a way to try to win superiority.   all that does is turn people off to your point of view when you resort to that.  when you start that, you have lost.  
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« Reply #51 on: September 07, 2010, 12:47:07 PM »
They may even refer to me as an Uncle Tom. I really don't care what they think.
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« Reply #52 on: September 07, 2010, 01:22:12 PM »
Y'all are waaaaay overthinking this.  Bottom line:  Michelle is a strong, independant, educated woman...and strong, independant women are not well thought of in most Muslim countries. She'd be pissed off and Barack would have to calm her down all the time and that's no way to run a marriage.  
How many of you would take your wife to a strict Muslim country?  I sure wouldn't.  Just creates trouble on the "home-front."  She would see how the men treat their women, then start to tar me with the same brush.  Not a good scene.

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« Reply #53 on: September 07, 2010, 06:43:03 PM »

  Now you can you climb down off that box,take off the sandwich board declaring "The end is near" and take your Thorazine.

Now like a true liberal you insult me  because I dont share your world view.
As for Jeremiah Wright, Obama didnt distance himself from that whack job until he became a liability to his campaign. Jeremaih Wright didnt just become that way during the election cycle, he has been a nut job for years and Obama continued to attend his church. If Obama didnt agree with what was being said there, why didnt he find a new church years ago?
"...One realist Muslim ventured that Obama worships at a Unitarian Church because it represents the middle ground between Christianity and Islam, incorporating the religious beliefs of the two faiths Obama feels connected to. Unitarianism could be Obama’s way of still being a Muslim. (And let’s not forget that the church Obama worshiped at for so many years had a minister who reminds most Muslims of their own raving, excitable ministers. Even if Obama really is Christian, he picked the most Muslim-esque minister out of the bunch to guide him.)"http://bsimmons.wordpress.com/2009/02/26/my-muslim-president-obama/
"1. Barrack Hussein Obama was born to Generations of Muslims

2. Barrack Hussein Obama was raised for years in Muslim Nations

3. Barrack Hussein Obama attended Muslim schools, where he was registered as a Muslim

4. Barrack Hussein Obama wants you to believe that his opportunistic conversion to Christianity after being born to generations of Muslims who raised him for years in Muslim nations where he attended Muslim schools has completely eliminated his Islamic Roots and changed his Muslim sympathies.

5. Barrack Hussein Obama’s church of 20 years gave many awards to the radical, anti-white, pro-Islamic, Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan.

15. Obama’s teachers and the principal from the 1970′s: Obama actively took part in the Islamic religious lessons during his years at his school in Muslim Indonesia. “I remembered that he had studied “mengaji” (recitation of the Quran)” “The actual usage of the word ‘mengaji’ in Indonesian and Malaysian societies means the study of learning to recite the Quran in the Arabic language rather than the native tongue. “Mengagi” is a word and a term that is accorded the highest value and status in the mindset of fundamentalist societies here in Southeast Asia. To put it quite simply, ‘mengaji classes’ are not something that a non practicing or so-called moderate Muslim family would ever send their child to. To put this in a Christian context, this is something above and beyond simply enrolling your child in Sunday school classes.”

16.The Obama Campaign: told the LA Times he wasn’t a “practicing Muslim.” (3/14/2007). Why didn’t Obama’s campaign just say he wasn’t a “Muslim”?"http://bsimmons.wordpress.com/2008/09/13/proof-obama-was-muslim/











































































































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 No,I insult you becuase your a raving lunatic.

1) I didnt realize Islam was genetic.
2) You talking about indonesia,which is predominantly Muslim,but many Christians attended the school he attended as well. They do in fact have a sizable christian population. He also was raised for much of his life in the United States,which IS predominantly Christian,so the same logic applies there doesn't it. If he was raised in China,would he automatically be Buddhist? Your just making this up to support your wacko theory.
3) First I heard of that,show me the documents? This is actually just another variation of the myth that he attended a conservative fundamentalist islamic school. It was just a public school (do they call the private schools there in British usage or public schools like we do? I guess it does not matter0
4) You start by assuming your thesis and then use the fact that he denies (which he more or less does,even though he doesnt really both to adress all the nutcase theories people dream up. It WAS addressed during the election,so I will treat this as something he has denied) that your thesis is true,as evidence that it IS true.

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"Im not a witch,Im falsy accused!"
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I could go on and on,knocking down your arguments,but the fact is,its absurd. In fact,all of thses things you say,if there had been proof WOULD have been hammered home by Hillary and she would be president right now. Explain that one? Are you suggesting that Hillary,and her Husbands hatchet men,who are some of the best in the business,even on par with Karl Rove and his people,either didn't FIND this stuff or choose to remain silent and lose the election? It wouldn't even have had to have been tied to her campaign,it would have been done through a massively funded PAC of one of here supporters.  I would also suggest that you post some links to some credible sources. Your making crazy claims,then backing them up with false logic and nebulous quotes that you cant provide any sources too.

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« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2010, 06:55:10 PM »
You want to stop having to play nice with the middle east,kick the oil habit


If you liberal eco freaks would let us drill where the oil is in this country, we could get off of Arab oil.
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 Thats just wishful thinking. As I said,and you ignored,it wouldn't even increase production 5%. The entire north slope reserves will barely make up for declining production of whats already being produced in Alaska. I know you think you know what your talking about because you heard it on talk radio,but you just dont. Ive spoken at length about these things with a lot of geologists and,many who used to work for oil companies (I used to work with them) and everyone in the industry knows that there just isn't enough oil here. I trust their information alot more than I trust a talking head on Fox "news".

  New technology has allowed us to get access to quite a bit of natural gas,and we have alot of coal,and that could really put a dent in it. Nuclear could also be a part of the equation,although there is a major issue on how to dispose of the waste. (The geologists I knew suggested dropping in sort of streamlined dart into a subduction zone where it would embed into the 500' deep mud (which has sat undisturbed for millions of years) and in a few million more years it will cycle into the earths core. Thats a plausible but no means certainly feasible solution) but what really needs to happen is you to take your head out of your... sand.... and understand that YOUR the reason why we dont have energy independence,because YOU (or people like you) dont accept that if you insist on becoming dependent on the middle east for your oil fix,it gives them power and money. Where is your personal responsibility? I thought that was a core conservative value? How about we just dont USE more energy than we can produce locally. We just dont do it. We STOP. If we need more energy,we figure out a way to make more,or go without. Of course,sacrifice is NOT a conservative idea. Grab all you can and somehow magically it will make the best situation for everyone IS. Thats called "magical thinking" and in extreme cases its a symptom of mental disease.

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« Reply #55 on: September 07, 2010, 07:03:40 PM »
You want to stop having to play nice with the middle east,kick the oil habit


If you liberal eco freaks would let us drill where the oil is in this country, we could get off of Arab oil.
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Not just that, but allow large solar projects, allow more experiments in tidal power, allow more wind power.  But all those get blocked because of concern for some sort of cockroach or flower or sea snail.  Or ruin the view for some Deem politician or movie star.

 You are correct that many large projects like that die because they dont get the support they need and the more radical elements kill them. But its also the case that hardcore conservatives go on with their "drill baby drill" mantra pretending that we can magically find enough oil in the US to get us out of this. (actually,the people in charge MUST know better,they have the reports in front of them. It sells well to the more ignorant and glutinous of their constituents though,so they keep saying it.) The fact is,if the right jumped on the renewable energy bandwagon and went all in,hammering home every night on Fox "news" how renewable power made america stronger, and how your unpatriotic if you drive a big truck and dont need it,they plus the faction of the left that WANTS these sorts of projects built,would get it done. Instead what happens is,the left,that wants renewable power is split. There is a faction that realizes there is going to have to be some impact. There is the other faction that's engaged in the same sort of magical thinking the right is,except they think that somehow someone is going to come up with some scifi perpertual energy source that is 100% clean and has no environmental impact and they can sit around and weave hemp baskets and sing songs. It turns out,that faction alone does not have enough sway to kill these projects,but when the "drill baby drill" crowd is trying to kill it to,it gets killed. As they say,politics makes strange bedfellows.

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« Reply #56 on: September 07, 2010, 07:07:04 PM »
i have never been a fan of people posting unflattering pictures of others in attempts to slander them or cast them in a bad light.   you saw it constantly with bush.   now you guys are doing it to obama.   like someone said, there are plenty of legitimate reasons to dislike the man on his policies.   this kind of behavor is repulsive and ignorant.   
   the smallness of some of you (especially billy and wreckhog) amazes me. 

 Honestly,I dont mind if someone posts the pictures. In fact,I laughed at alot of the stuff that went around when Clinton was president. He was great to make fun of. (dont ever let the man offer you a cigar,you dont know where its been... or maybe you do). Its when the insults start taking on racist overtones that I mind.

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Re: Why does our president leave his wife behind
« Reply #57 on: September 07, 2010, 07:21:34 PM »
I do mind, and I find it offensive at the least , and racist at most.  It's one thing to disagree with ones politics , but to relate anyone to a Monkey or to pick on someone just because of the way they look, dress etc.. just shows what a petty person the one who posts such garbage is.

Additionally , It'sone thing to pick on a man who can defend himself but to pick on a women, any women is just Low, cowardice and shows the poster to be just a playground Bully.  

Additionally Greybeard already addressed this kind of junk in a pinned post



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If the answer is NO then DO NOT post it here either. Any or all of those are reading this at one time or another. If not your daughter, mother, wife and pastor then someone else's is.

I've had to remove too many off color jokes of late and if it continues some members are gonna be EX members.
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Re: Why does our president leave his wife behind
« Reply #58 on: September 07, 2010, 08:03:45 PM »

  Now you can you climb down off that box,take off the sandwich board declaring "The end is near" and take your Thorazine.

Now like a true liberal you insult me  because I dont share your world view.
As for Jeremiah Wright, Obama didnt distance himself from that whack job until he became a liability to his campaign. Jeremaih Wright didnt just become that way during the election cycle, he has been a nut job for years and Obama continued to attend his church. If Obama didnt agree with what was being said there, why didnt he find a new church years ago?
"...One realist Muslim ventured that Obama worships at a Unitarian Church because it represents the middle ground between Christianity and Islam, incorporating the religious beliefs of the two faiths Obama feels connected to. Unitarianism could be Obama’s way of still being a Muslim. (And let’s not forget that the church Obama worshiped at for so many years had a minister who reminds most Muslims of their own raving, excitable ministers. Even if Obama really is Christian, he picked the most Muslim-esque minister out of the bunch to guide him.)"http://bsimmons.wordpress.com/2009/02/26/my-muslim-president-obama/
"1. Barrack Hussein Obama was born to Generations of Muslims

2. Barrack Hussein Obama was raised for years in Muslim Nations

3. Barrack Hussein Obama attended Muslim schools, where he was registered as a Muslim

4. Barrack Hussein Obama wants you to believe that his opportunistic conversion to Christianity after being born to generations of Muslims who raised him for years in Muslim nations where he attended Muslim schools has completely eliminated his Islamic Roots and changed his Muslim sympathies.

5. Barrack Hussein Obama’s church of 20 years gave many awards to the radical, anti-white, pro-Islamic, Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan.

15. Obama’s teachers and the principal from the 1970′s: Obama actively took part in the Islamic religious lessons during his years at his school in Muslim Indonesia. “I remembered that he had studied “mengaji” (recitation of the Quran)” “The actual usage of the word ‘mengaji’ in Indonesian and Malaysian societies means the study of learning to recite the Quran in the Arabic language rather than the native tongue. “Mengagi” is a word and a term that is accorded the highest value and status in the mindset of fundamentalist societies here in Southeast Asia. To put it quite simply, ‘mengaji classes’ are not something that a non practicing or so-called moderate Muslim family would ever send their child to. To put this in a Christian context, this is something above and beyond simply enrolling your child in Sunday school classes.”

16.The Obama Campaign: told the LA Times he wasn’t a “practicing Muslim.” (3/14/2007). Why didn’t Obama’s campaign just say he wasn’t a “Muslim”?"http://bsimmons.wordpress.com/2008/09/13/proof-obama-was-muslim/

 No,I insult you becuase your a raving lunatic.

1) I didnt realize Islam was genetic.
2) You talking about indonesia,which is predominantly Muslim,but many Christians attended the school he attended as well. They do in fact have a sizable christian population. He also was raised for much of his life in the United States,which IS predominantly Christian,so the same logic applies there doesn't it. If he was raised in China,would he automatically be Buddhist? Your just making this up to support your wacko theory.
3) First I heard of that,show me the documents? This is actually just another variation of the myth that he attended a conservative fundamentalist islamic school. It was just a public school (do they call the private schools there in British usage or public schools like we do? I guess it does not matter0
4) You start by assuming your thesis and then use the fact that he denies (which he more or less does,even though he doesnt really both to adress all the nutcase theories people dream up. It WAS addressed during the election,so I will treat this as something he has denied) that your thesis is true,as evidence that it IS true.

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"Only a witch would stand here and lie in the house of the Lord! BURN HER!"

I could go on and on,knocking down your arguments,but the fact is,its absurd. In fact,all of thses things you say,if there had been proof WOULD have been hammered home by Hillary and she would be president right now. Explain that one? Are you suggesting that Hillary,and her Husbands hatchet men,who are some of the best in the business,even on par with Karl Rove and his people,either didn't FIND this stuff or choose to remain silent and lose the election? It wouldn't even have had to have been tied to her campaign,it would have been done through a massively funded PAC of one of here supporters.  I would also suggest that you post some links to some credible sources. Your making crazy claims,then backing them up with false logic and nebulous quotes that you cant provide any sources too.
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BLAH BLAH BLAH...go on insulting me you havent proven anything and you havent broken any arguement. Obama's own word's dont even convince the doubters when he talked about "his muslim faith" but you know I think I mistakenly said I  was a muslim at least half a dozen times today...
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Re: Why does our president leave his wife behind
« Reply #59 on: September 07, 2010, 09:23:19 PM »
I do mind, and I find it offensive at the least , and racist at most.  It's one thing to disagree with ones politics , but to relate anyone to a Monkey or to pick on someone just because of the way they look, dress etc.. just shows what a petty person the one who posts such garbage is.

Additionally , It'sone thing to pick on a man who can defend himself but to pick on a women, any women is just Low, cowardice and shows the poster to be just a playground Bully.  

Additionally Greybeard already addressed this kind of junk in a pinned post

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Would I tell this joke in front of my 10 year old daughter with my wife, my mother and the preacher and his wife in the room.

If the answer is NO then DO NOT post it here either. Any or all of those are reading this at one time or another. If not your daughter, mother, wife and pastor then someone else's is.

I've had to remove too many off color jokes of late and if it continues some members are gonna be EX members.

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 The thing with the monkey goes beyond just ridiculing someone. Thats my real beef with it,if someone wants to make fun of the way she dresses,go ahead. Its irrelevant to her or her husbands politics,and sort of petty,but that does not really bother me. Its when someone starts into the racist BS that it starts bothering me. I know someone is going to come back and say how there was a picture with 20 monkeys and GWB and how all the liberals thought it was funny and start whining about "a double standard" and "playing the race card" and maybe they really just dont understand. Ive met plenty of racists who are exactly like that. The fact is of course,there IS a double standard. I'm a white male of polish decent and if you make cartoons of me picking cotton while eating a giant slice of water melon with a piece of fried chicken its just confusing. If you do the same with the president for instance,its probably racist. Comparing blacks to monkeys is a very common racist insult. Its not even the thinly veiled racism that seems to permeate such discussions. Its in your face blatant racism that I feel I have to speak up against because its either speak up or be one of those who silently consent to it.