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post office gears up for dollar collapse.
« on: September 06, 2010, 04:55:00 PM »
Your new currency will be the SDR for a conversion chart click here  http://pe.usps.com/text/imm/immc3_007.htm  I for one find this most interesting because SDR's do not exist at this time.
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Re: post office gears up for dollar collapse.
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2010, 05:25:33 PM »
Special Drawing Rights (SDRs)

January 31, 2010

The SDR is an international reserve asset, created by the IMF in 1969 to supplement its member countries' official reserves. Its value is based on a basket of four key international currencies, and SDRs can be exchanged for freely usable currencies. With a general SDR allocation that took effect on August 28 and a special allocation on September 9, 2009, the amount of SDRs increased from SDR 21.4 billion to SDR 204.1 billion (equivalent to about $ 321 billion).

The role of the SDR

The SDR was created by the IMF in 1969 to support the Bretton Woods fixed exchange rate system. A country participating in this system needed official reserves—government or central bank holdings of gold and widely accepted foreign currencies—that could be used to purchase the domestic currency in foreign exchange markets, as required to maintain its exchange rate. But the international supply of two key reserve assets—gold and the U.S. dollar—proved inadequate for supporting the expansion of world trade and financial development that was taking place. Therefore, the international community decided to create a new international reserve asset under the auspices of the IMF.

However, only a few years later, the Bretton Woods system collapsed and the major currencies shifted to a floating exchange rate regime. In addition, the growth in international capital markets facilitated borrowing by creditworthy governments. Both of these developments lessened the need for SDRs.

The SDR is neither a currency, nor a claim on the IMF. Rather, it is a potential claim on the freely usable currencies of IMF members. Holders of SDRs can obtain these currencies in exchange for their SDRs in two ways: first, through the arrangement of voluntary exchanges between members; and second, by the IMF designating members with strong external positions to purchase SDRs from members with weak external positions. In addition to its role as a supplementary reserve asset, the SDR, serves as the unit of account of the IMF and some other international organizations.
Basket of currencies determines the value of the SDR

The value of the SDR was initially defined as equivalent to 0.888671 grams of fine gold—which, at the time, was also equivalent to one U.S. dollar. After the collapse of the Bretton Woods system in 1973, however, the SDR was redefined as a basket of currencies, today consisting of the euro, Japanese yen, pound sterling, and U.S. dollar. The U.S. dollar-value of the SDR is posted daily on the IMF's website. It is calculated as the sum of specific amounts of the four currencies valued in U.S. dollars, on the basis of exchange rates quoted at noon each day in the London market.

The basket composition is reviewed every five years by the Executive Board to ensure that it reflects the relative importance of currencies in the world's trading and financial systems. In the most recent review (in November 2005), the weights of the currencies in the SDR basket were revised based on the value of the exports of goods and services and the amount of reserves denominated in the respective currencies which were held by other members of the IMF. These changes became effective on January 1, 2006. The next review will take place in late 2010.
The SDR interest rate

The SDR interest rate provides the basis for calculating the interest charged to members on regular (non-concessional) IMF loans, the interest paid and charged to members on their SDR holdings and charged on their SDR allocations, and the interest paid to members on a portion of their quota subscriptions. The SDR interest rate is determined weekly and is based on a weighted average of representative interest rates on short-term debt in the money markets of the SDR basket currencies.
SDR allocations to IMF members

Under its Articles of Agreement, the IMF may allocate SDRs to members in proportion to their IMF quotas. Such an allocation provides each member with a costless asset. However, if a member's SDR holdings rise above its allocation, it earns interest on the excess; conversely, if it holds fewer SDRs than allocated, it pays interest on the shortfall.

There are two kinds of allocations:

General allocations of SDRs. General allocations have to be based on a long-term global need to supplement existing reserve assets. Decisions to allocate SDRs have been made three times. The first allocation was for a total amount of SDR 9.3 billion, distributed in 1970-72 in yearly installments. The second allocation, for SDR 12.1 billion, was distributed in 1979–81 in yearly installments.

The third general allocation was approved on August 7, 2009 for an amount of SDR 161.2 billion and took place on August 28, 2009. The allocation increased simultaneously members’ SDR holdings and their cumulative SDR allocations by about 74.13 percent of their quota.

Special allocations of SDRs. A proposal for a special one-time allocation of SDRs was approved by the IMF's Board of Governors in September 1997 through the proposed Fourth Amendment of the Articles of Agreement. Its intent is to enable all members of the IMF to participate in the SDR system on an equitable basis and correct for the fact that countries that joined the Fund after 1981—more than one-fifth of the current IMF membership—had never received an SDR allocation.

The Fourth Amendment became effective for all members on August 10, 2009 when the Fund certified that at least three-fifths of the IMF membership (112 members) with 85 percent of the total voting power accepted it. On August 5, 2009, the United States joined 133 other members in supporting the Amendment. The special allocation was implemented on September 9, 2009. It increased members' cumulative SDR allocations by SDR 21.5 billion using a common benchmark ratio as described in the amendment.
Buying and selling SDRs

IMF members often need to buy SDRs to discharge obligations to the IMF, or they may wish to sell SDRs in order to adjust the composition of their reserves. The IMF acts as an intermediary between members and prescribed holders to ensure that SDRs can be exchanged for freely usable currencies. For more than two decades, the SDR market has functioned through voluntary trading arrangements. Under these arrangements a number of members and one prescribed holder have volunteered to buy or sell SDRs within limits defined by their respective arrangements. Following the 2009 SDR allocations, the number and size of the voluntary arrangements has been expanded to ensure continued liquidity of the voluntary SDR market.

In the event that there is insufficient capacity under the voluntary trading arrangements, the Fund can activate the designation mechanism. Under this mechanism, members with sufficiently strong external positions are designated by the Fund to buy SDRs with freely usable currencies up to certain amounts from members with weak external positions. This arrangement serves as a backstop to guarantee the liquidity and the reserve asset character of the SDR.

source : http://www.imf.org/external/np/exr/facts/sdr.htm
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Re: post office gears up for dollar collapse.
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2010, 05:34:10 PM »
According to wikipedia it has been a standard set up since 1969 in case of an emergency situation. eddiegjr

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Drawing_Rights

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Re: post office gears up for dollar collapse.
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2010, 05:37:37 PM »
Thanks for the explaination Matt. After reading the link I was wondering what the SDR was. I can see inflation running wild in the near future, well it is already happening on alot of the necesities of life. Housing is the one thing that has actually deflated, but the housing market was doomed to fail at the rate it was going.
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Re: post office gears up for dollar collapse.
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2010, 11:12:12 AM »
Housing is the one thing that has actually deflated, but the housing market was doomed to fail at the rate it was going.

I wonder how much of it is just returning back to normal rather than deflating.  For a while, as you allude to, house pricing was just ridiculous.  Prices were shooting ever skyward and agents and sellers just looked at you dumbfounded expecting you to pay just about anything they asked with the simple rebuttal that "it's real estate.  it's an investment and it'll go up ever MORE in price!".  People won't continue to pay prices that keep increasing that much more than the standard rate of inflation though. 

Oh well.  For renters, people who plan on now buying a house to LIVE IN (rather than to flip a few months later), or people in houses that they didn't intend to sell, this change in the market is probably a good thing. 

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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2010, 11:45:30 AM »
You opened the can of worms , The housing market was a crime in progress. Prices were inflated for no reason other than they could be . When there was a need for demand the qulafication was eased and more demand was created with out regard for the demands ability to pay back the inflated loans .
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Re: post office gears up for dollar collapse.
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2010, 03:53:21 PM »
Housing is the one thing that has actually deflated, but the housing market was doomed to fail at the rate it was going.

I wonder how much of it is just returning back to normal rather than deflating.  For a while, as you allude to, house pricing was just ridiculous.  Prices were shooting ever skyward and agents and sellers just looked at you dumbfounded expecting you to pay just about anything they asked with the simple rebuttal that "it's real estate.  it's an investment and it'll go up ever MORE in price!".  People won't continue to pay prices that keep increasing that much more than the standard rate of inflation though. 

Oh well.  For renters, people who plan on now buying a house to LIVE IN (rather than to flip a few months later), or people in houses that they didn't intend to sell, this change in the market is probably a good thing. 

The commercial property realestate hasen't even begun to unravel yet and the administration says it won't do anything to prop it up. eddiegjr
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Re: post office gears up for dollar collapse.
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2010, 02:23:32 AM »
Housing is the one thing that has actually deflated, but the housing market was doomed to fail at the rate it was going.

I wonder how much of it is just returning back to normal rather than deflating.  For a while, as you allude to, house pricing was just ridiculous.  Prices were shooting ever skyward and agents and sellers just looked at you dumbfounded expecting you to pay just about anything they asked with the simple rebuttal that "it's real estate.  it's an investment and it'll go up ever MORE in price!".  People won't continue to pay prices that keep increasing that much more than the standard rate of inflation though. 

Oh well.  For renters, people who plan on now buying a house to LIVE IN (rather than to flip a few months later), or people in houses that they didn't intend to sell, this change in the market is probably a good thing. 

Funny you should mention the housing market MGMorden. I was in the housing market HEAVY when it collapsed. I was fully aware that it was booming, and was making money on the fact, and all the while wondering how long it would last. I soon found out the "hard way". My first statement was: Now we're all gonna find out what our houses are REALLY WORTH. Their gettin cheaper all the time, and so is the one I thankfully have paid for, but I ain't sellin it. Rent on the other hand is off the charts for the simple reason "IT CAN BE". But that will hit soon also. Rent is as high, or higher in some cases than house payments, and that will collapse when folks tire of "fighting the tiger".
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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2010, 03:19:50 AM »
In most cases rent is 1% of the value of the house per mo. With value going down rent will need to be adjusted in some cases. How will that set with the owner that may in many cases have a payment to make based on when the value was higher ? These owners will compete with those buying rental houses today at a lower rate . This will not be easy to right .
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2010, 05:22:27 AM »
In most cases rent is 1% of the value of the house per mo. With value going down rent will need to be adjusted in some cases. How will that set with the owner that may in many cases have a payment to make based on when the value was higher ? These owners will compete with those buying rental houses today at a lower rate . This will not be easy to right .

Yeah, there are a lot of owners who don't understand that segment of the market - you can't just charge any rental price you want.  A while back (post-housing bubble burst - we're talking about a year ago) when I was looking at relocating closer to work, I saw a small house right outside of the town where I work with a "For Rent" sign up.  It was an interesting location - outside of town but literally only about 5 minutes from work.  Nothing too special - just a small block house about 1200 sqft. 

Anyways, I called up to see what they wanted for rent.  $850 per month.  I thanked the lady for her time - didn't say anything about it, but in the back of my mind I was thinking "This is ridiculous - they'll never get that.".  6 months later, having never been rented, that house was foreclosed on and put up for sale by the bank.  Not sure what the initial asking price was, but by the time I figured I'd check on it the posted asking price was $45k and they already had a buyer in the process of getting it (wish I'd looked at it sooner).  Checking public records, the actual sale price of that house was $37k. 

There is no way you're going to rent a house to someone for $850 per month when someone could BUY a house of the same quality for around $275 per month.