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Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« on: September 08, 2010, 08:13:48 PM »
Holy Crap!  Just when we have this big deal about a Christian burning a Koran, in Israel orthodox Jewish youth's are burning New Testaments.  Who ever would have thought that our only ally in the middle east would do something so hateful and despicable. But....they're God's chosen people after all, and regular morality does not apply.


http://www.haaretz.com/news/orthodox-jewish-youths-burn-new-testaments-in-or-yehuda-1.246153

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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2010, 12:59:41 AM »
Does not surprise me if true. Christless means to be without Christ as savior. Jews had a chance to save Jesus when they were offered the choice of barrabas or Christ to nail to the tree. You know how that went right? The fire of hell will be many times hotter on the jews and all who refuse to accept Christ as savior than any fire they can start. The New Testament of Christ lives in my heart and mind. They can't burn Christ.

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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2010, 01:55:34 AM »
The Jews and Muslims’ ( I can see no difference in the two) can do no wrong!!! But if they were American Christians they would be hate mongers and jerks.
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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2010, 03:04:03 AM »
they all children of the father ..redemption is there for any who accept it with real understanding.. now im christian but the longer i live the more i seem to learn about the lords will for me..
once redeemed
thats it ..the price is paid..a true christian will, i believe follow the example jesus set..not sayin its easy ..our own ego has to be dealt with daily..they can burn what ever book they choose ..when thier father talks to thier heart with the beautiful truth.. they will rejoice in the truth of it..we have a truely merciful god ..
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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2010, 04:44:52 AM »
(shrug) they'll do that New Testament burnin', and the unconditional support just keeps on flowing their way. Odd. Anyhow... sounds like a tantrum. What does it accomplish? Demonstrating contempt does little good, even if it feels good (I know; I've got contempt for several classes of people)

Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2010, 05:13:09 AM »
Lets RIOT!!!

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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2010, 06:34:49 AM »
OK, and?   You don't hear any warnings that they should stop because it might cause a violent backlash, do you?  No threats of beheadings or bombings if they keep doing it.  And there is nothing in the NT that calls for death, beheading, dismemberment, etc. for those who burn, flush, tear up, or otherwise "disrespect" the NT.  Seems that there is only one religion that calls for things like that. 
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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2010, 07:43:54 AM »
OK, and?   You don't hear any warnings that they should stop because it might cause a violent backlash, do you?  No threats of beheadings or bombings if they keep doing it.  And there is nothing in the NT that calls for death, beheading, dismemberment, etc. for those who burn, flush, tear up, or otherwise "disrespect" the NT.  Seems that there is only one religion that calls for things like that. 

Naw...just the Samson Option and other blackmail.

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Which has exactly what to do with death threats against those who don't worship the koran of mohammad?

The Sampson Option has to do with the muslim Arabs actually getting their acts together well enough to be a military threat to the existance to the UN mandated existence of the State of Israel (you remember the UN, don;t you?  You know that offspring of the League of Nations that regularly issues anti-Israel statements at the request of Arab states, statements that you drool over and hold up to show how evil Israel is)
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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2010, 11:39:06 AM »
This is an odd situation, particularly from a pro-free speech perspective.  On the one hand, burning books - ANY books - is usually the hallmark of censors hoping to suppress information and ideas.  Generally a bad thing.  On the other hand, they're not really eliminating the books in question (it's not a government mandated destruction a la Fahrenheit 451 - good book that I highly recommend BTW), they're doing it as a demonstration, which can in and of itself be a means of expression and free speech.

In the end, as long as it's not government sponsored, I say who cares.  Same with the Christian church who wants to burn those Qurans as a demonstration.  That's their free speech right too.

Of course this is all theoretical anyways as Isreal being a different government has their own set of laws under which I'm not even sure if free speech is protected.  I used to assume that modern freedom oriented nations would protect the idea, but lately the actions of many nations (particularly Australia) have totally killed that assumption.

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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2010, 03:13:36 PM »
Oh golly gee, don't hear about the Christians threatening attacks and bombing.

Who cares!
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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2010, 03:42:13 PM »
Hello----that's not the only copy we got.
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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2010, 03:57:42 PM »
America has become way too p.c. and lives in fear of offending anyone for any reason. sad state of affairs,allow anyone to insult and degrade you but don't offend them because they may not like you if you do. Hell they don't like or respect us now.
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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2010, 04:22:20 PM »
Its amazing to me how pitiful BS like that and the Koran burning get so much play and debate.

You Play into the State run medias hands by paying any attention to this foolishness!

HELLO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe we should concentrate on how this administration spent a trillion dollars to "restart the economy" and it is worse than before! or  how Soros just made a another billion dollars in the Brazilian oil trade cause this president is doing everything he can to destroy the American oil business! Soros pays obamas political bills anyone got any thoughts on that!

Come on Americans get your heads outta your asses! Pay attention to what really is your
dilema(s).

God will sort this out when the time comes. Let God do his job! and you do what you are supposed to do and save your country!

The fact that these things get attention makes me ill! Its like William said "it aint the last copy" and i dont care a hill of beans who burns nuttin. If burning is of interest maybe we all should burn copies of the obama health care plan. That is gonna further destroy the economic welfare of our country
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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2010, 04:31:37 PM »
Holy Crap!  Just when we have this big deal about a Christian burning a Koran, in Israel orthodox Jewish youth's are burning New Testaments.  Who ever would have thought that our only ally in the middle east would do something so hateful and despicable. But....they're God's chosen people after all, and regular morality does not apply.


http://www.haaretz.com/news/orthodox-jewish-youths-burn-new-testaments-in-or-yehuda-1.246153

It's just a book.  Burning one book is no worse that burning another.
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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2010, 04:26:53 AM »
I have several Bibles, a few Jews want to burn theirs, their loss, I'm keeping mine. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2010, 04:48:49 AM »
It is fair so long as they use a torah for a match.

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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2010, 05:55:27 AM »
Oh golly gee, don't hear about the Christians threatening attacks and bombing.

Who cares!

What are you talking about?....they and friends are talking about wiping out Iran just about everyday....already flanked it east and west. Then moving on to wipe out the other 1/3 of the human race.

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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2010, 06:34:34 AM »
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Definitely questionable at times. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2010, 07:45:56 AM »
Scatterbrain to himself:

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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2010, 08:10:50 AM »
Sure, get angry at someone....destroy an object....that will teach them! Kinda like a spurned woman keying your car or someoneone putting sugar in your tank. Personaly I could never understand taking anger out on an object. What in hell does that accomplish or prove, other than you're too cowardly to take your problem up with someone face to face. If I have a problem with you then you can bet your a** you'll know it's with you, not some object you posess! These people are cowards and idiots!

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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2010, 11:21:34 AM »
The Bible has 2 lineages.  One is Cain's and one is Adam's/Seth's.  Figure it out!  The muslims aren't part of The Adamic lineage.
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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2010, 11:43:12 AM »
The Bible has 2 lineages.  One is Cain's and one is Adam's/Seth's.  Figure it out!  The muslims aren't part of The Adamic lineage.

My beliefs on the accuracy of the lineage claim aside, this is pretty much impossible given converts from one religion to the other.  There are plenty of former muslims who are now christian, and vice versa.  Their genealogy didn't change when their faith did.  You can't associate religion with ethnicity or genetics. 

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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2010, 11:47:57 AM »
Or can you?
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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2010, 11:48:51 AM »
Or can you?

Nope, you can't.  Just went over that with the last post.  Try to keep up.

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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2010, 12:01:13 PM »
They all count, just in different ways.  Read the parable of the tares.
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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2010, 07:54:53 AM »
The Bible has 2 lineages.  One is Cain's and one is Adam's/Seth's.  Figure it out!  The muslims aren't part of The Adamic lineage.


This may be news to you there is more then two  and I'm not of either.

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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2010, 08:02:17 AM »
The Bible has 2 lineages.  One is Cain's and one is Adam's/Seth's.  Figure it out!  The muslims aren't part of The Adamic lineage.

  You can't associate religion with ethnicity or genetics. 

 I beg o differ, one is Shinto the other is Judaism, in their conservative/orthodox circle their is no conversion, they do not look for converts believing that Judaism is for Jews, no other.  There are other religions that you are born into and can't convert to. 
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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2010, 08:30:35 AM »
Or can you?
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Yeah...this is the latest zionist brainiack idea....that judiasm is actually a race come to find out
...and The Only Race that counts.

Sick stuff.


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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2010, 08:18:54 PM »
The Bible has 2 lineages.  One is Cain's and one is Adam's/Seth's.  Figure it out!  The muslims aren't part of The Adamic lineage.

  You can't associate religion with ethnicity or genetics. 

 I beg o differ, one is Shinto the other is Judaism, in their conservative/orthodox circle their is no conversion, they do not look for converts believing that Judaism is for Jews, no other.  There are other religions that you are born into and can't convert to. 
Yeah that is Israel, and exactly why many jews hate Israel. In the US, reform jews will take anyone.

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Re: Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments in Israel
« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2010, 08:35:04 PM »
There are other religions that you are born into and can't convert to. 

But you can convert FROM them, without exception, and that nullifies any possibility of making a firm tie between race and religion.