Author Topic: 911 Video footage you're suppose to forget and some new footage--no Boeing (Read 12414 times)

TM7 · « **on:** September 13, 2010, 06:19:55 AM »

Critical mass...Here's some video footage you're suppose to forget with some new footage...

you decide...TM7

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williamlayton · « **Reply #1 on:** January 13, 2011, 01:15:07 AM »

You still have not detailed how all the passengers died.
Blessings

williamlayton · « **Reply #2 on:** January 13, 2011, 07:19:53 AM »

I would, if I were you, and wanted to make sure I was correect---in order to go on with this thing--have already checked the list, the death certificates and the survivors. That is the very most easiest way to determine if you are correct-----I do assume you want to be correct, don't you.
If you do not do this all you are doing is dishonering the dead and---I would be ashamed.
Blessings

billy_56081 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 13, 2011, 01:11:13 PM »

My cousin saw the AIRLINER coming in low in the direction of the pentagon. He said he could not see the impact, but he sis hear it and saw the smoke imediatly after. He also saidthat there was no way the AIRLINER he saw could have pulled out without him seeing it. Case closed on this very very slow security camera footage.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 13, 2011, 02:54:07 PM »

Quote from: TM7 on January 13, 2011, 01:48:31 PM

The news reporter from CNN in first minute on above video saw no plane, no plane debris, no dug up lawn...claims it was a bomb...as did Rummie.

..TM7

Got a name to this "CNN reporter" and how about some footage of Rumsfelt saying this? Or was it a rummy sating it?

Like I keep saying my cousin Mark saw the plane along with thousands of others.

williamlayton · « **Reply #5 on:** January 14, 2011, 12:11:23 AM »

Once again TM---I would think that you had already investigated this angle and would have concluded their deaths to be truth---but just ignored the facts.
I think you know it is truth--it just doesn't fit into what you want it to be.
Blessings

williamlayton · « **Reply #6 on:** January 14, 2011, 11:17:01 PM »

NOW---we have hit on some common ground---This TOTAL TRUST thing.
It is not in my make-up to trust TOTALLY---only in Christ Jesus do I give this Total Trust.
To deny the deaths is one thing----THEY are the truth.
Why it happened and the responsible parties involved are another---but there is just no concieveable way that you can present evidece as weird as you would claim--as HOW all of this happened. It happened as it did and---YES---there are some folks covering their ass---no doubt.
This Arse covering was not a conspiracy---if anything it was incompetence----the goverment is a lot of things but competence is not one of those things---your story demands total competence.
Blessings

williamlayton · « **Reply #7 on:** January 15, 2011, 04:27:26 AM »

But---you did find some.
I remember the reports of the funerals and memorials---I remember them. I remember the interviews with family members and the pictures---in our local paper---I remember them.
How quickly we forget.
Blessings

mjbskwim · « **Reply #8 on:** January 18, 2011, 10:42:58 PM »

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If we want to believe Gay, the answer is simple: total trust in the government and the system. But if we want to look farther, we may find the silence among the flight family community as the tip of the iceberg behind the entire 9/11 mystery.

Real simple,yo kid can go to Haavaad or yoose can go swim with da fishes.

What are you gunna say?

I would guess the Atlantic Ocean holds a lot of answers.5-5 minute flight can take you to some deep waters.

If you aren't a carpenter,your are incompetent as far as building a house,how do you go about getting a house built?

You HIRE someone that has the competence to build a house.
Again,the money the owner,himself, made was enough to hire all the competence needed to pull this off.

The passengers? Just more bodies to get rid of.

williamlayton · « **Reply #9 on:** January 23, 2011, 08:21:14 AM »

Again---there is a body count---you say no body count---there was proof of funerals and memorials.
You say that some got paid off. For what---saying they had children, husbands, wives on board that are dead---that really are not.
I suspose that birth certificates tied to death certificates and folks whe were friends of them are all part of this great conspiracy.
If this were possible---and it is not---those folks are alive somewhere.
We know that conspiretors don't live long after their worth has run out.
I need proof---not cojecture or hearsay.
Blessings

suba · « **Reply #10 on:** January 23, 2011, 08:51:49 AM »

As I posted in another thread, no matter which side of the fence you're on, every single American should demand a new investigation into the events of 911. There should be no arguing between people any further. The people who believe the official version should be overjoyed at proving once and for all the truthers are lunatics. The 911 commission was seriously flawed. It was underfunded, there were questionable people on the committee, and there was a rush to find answers. That's why every American should insist for a new independent and transparent investigation into 911. Let's not argue between ourselves and waste time. Let the evidence of those events speak for themselves. For the living and the dead, let the evidence and facts be brought to light. Let the American people and the world know the truth according to what a truly independent and non corrupt commissions findings are.

People who believe the official story will not be swayed, nor will people who believe the opposite. Again, I encourage everyone on either side to call or email their congressman asking for a new investigation. Then let's all accept whatever those finding are.

suba · « **Reply #11 on:** January 23, 2011, 10:30:39 AM »

The planning of 911 was very deep. Very deep. I've investigated this to the nth degree. The events were not only a physical attack, but a deep psychological attacks as well. The building had to come down to split our collective psyche. They knew the planes wouldn't bring down the building, so thermite was needed. Had the building not come down, we collectively would have not gone into a type of trance where our mind was essentially split. This was nothing short of mind control. Had the building not collapsed,we would not have allowed our government to create a post 911 world. We were all in shock, watching those towers collapse over and over. That was part of the plan. We were mesmerized and hypnotized by those images which were controlled by corporations who are in bed with our government.

It goes much deeper than this. It goes back hundreds of years to old bloodlines,secret societies with a quest for a new world order. A quest for a one world government. High level officials of our government weren't the only one's involved. There were other players which I don't care to mention. People have already been killed that knew too much. We don't realized what we are dealing with. We don't realize the depth of corruption and evil that we are dealing with. I can only urge everyone no matter what you believe to make it known you support a new investigation of 911. We all need to unite if we are to survive. We need the truth now.

Pat/Rick · « **Reply #12 on:** January 23, 2011, 12:28:45 PM »

I still question the pentagon hit. If you freeze that video clip around the minute 05- 06-07-08 frames you can compare (scale) the length of "the object" striking the pentagon. How tall is the pentagon? 5 stories? The object at a rough scale is no longer than the pentagon is tall. of course it is not going to supply an exact dimension to scale with but as comparrison? If it was an airliner the wings should scale longer than the pentagon is tall ( elevation of stories above ground). I am just not seeing how this object could be an airliner. Was an airliner in the vicinity of the pentagon on 9-11-01? Yes I believe so, is that what hit the pentagon? At the risk of sounding like I am disputing what other folks saw (I'm not) I have yet to be convinced. It could all be settled if more than five frames of footage was released by the pentagon. Why when we have seen the plane hit the tower countless times, we have yet to see footage beyond a doubt released in this case. What is being hidden?

billy_56081 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 23, 2011, 12:44:29 PM »

Suba, I did my investigating. My cousin saw the AIRLINER heading in at the Pentagon, he did not see the actual hit, but he said if it would have pulled up he would have seen that. Seconds after it flew very very low over him heheard the impact and then saw the smoke. Him and thousands of other witnessed this. Case closed for me.

suba · « **Reply #14 on:** January 23, 2011, 01:08:00 PM »

Bill,

911 is bigger than any individual aspect. The plane that hit the pentagon is only one piece of the puzzle. Don't cloud your opinion by any single or even multiple piece. My position is no matter what someone believes, let's all unite in seeking the reopening of those events. We need all of the information on the table. It's common knowledge the original report was flawed. We should put aside our differences and unite seeking a new investigation. We have nothing to lose, and everything to gain. Arguing and wasting time over different aspects is counterproductive. The focus should be on a new carefully picked commission to head a new investigation.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 23, 2011, 01:23:11 PM »

I seen no reason to waste more tax dollars on this wild goose chase. My cousin saw the plane that hit the pentagon, and there is tons of footage of the planes hitting the WTC case closed. Everything I have read and seen on this "conspiracy" hub bub is far out speculation. I have seen justas much "proof" of bigfoot and chupacabra.

suba · « **Reply #16 on:** January 23, 2011, 01:53:53 PM »

Bill, You see no reason to waste tax dollars on this wild goose chase ? I don't know where you're coming from. It's not your decision how tax dollars should or should not be spent. Unless you're God, you don't know who was responsible for 911. If you love this country, and if you want your children's children to live free....then by God you better get your head wrapped around the idea of supporting a new investigation. If the truthers are wrong, then everyone can breathe relief....but if their right then God help us all.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 23, 2011, 02:06:53 PM »

So was 9/11 an illusion put on by illusionists? There is tons of footage af the planes hitting the WTC. So is my cousin a liar?

tlmkr38 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 23, 2011, 03:13:22 PM »

Well I'm not gonna get into the passenger list debate and all. what bothers me is simply the fact that in this video of the crash whatever hit the wall just plain doesn't look big enough to be an airliner.. I mean the Pentagon is big but.....

suba · « **Reply #19 on:** January 23, 2011, 03:24:42 PM »

Bill,

I have no doubt two large planes hit the towers. Your cousin isn't a liar, but I'm not sure what hit the Pentagon.Stop focusing on one piece of the puzzle. It's much more complicated than that. Listen, I'm not going to get drawn into an endless debate. I'd like nothing better than for you to support a new investigation, and the commission report says 911 happened exactly the way we were told, then you make a thread with my name and others telling everyone you told us so, and you were right, and we stupid delusional conspiracy people were wrong. I'd love that to happen, but I'm betting the opposite. Like I said, we should all quite wasting time arguing, and find a way to actively support a new investigation, because it's the right thing to do. Debate over.

williamlayton · « **Reply #20 on:** January 23, 2011, 09:36:23 PM »

I think, very seldom do I react, I am just too much of an stoic.
I have read a great deal of the evidence the truthers put forward and it honestly does not impress me as having a ounce of thought behind it.
It is a H'Wood screenwriters great attempt to make a suspense out of something that is so straight forward no scriptwriter can better it.
Sorry, but the truther theories are to full of holes to hold water.
Blessings

billy_56081 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 24, 2011, 04:48:35 AM »

No TM I did not say my cousin was near the White House. Could you please find where I said that?

bubba · « **Reply #22 on:** January 24, 2011, 06:15:27 AM »

I dont know but I would think in todays advanced camera tecnology, better footage coud be presented. I am guessing this footage is at best an illusion. It looks about as clear as all the supposed sightings of big foot over the years. Show me something that is clear and maybe I will consider it. I get clearer footage from my 150 dollar trail cams.

Pat/Rick · « **Reply #23 on:** January 24, 2011, 09:04:33 AM »

I agree bubba, why in stop frame of what I would think is a standard frame camera speed, the footage still wrought with blurry spots? Does that indicate the "object" as going to fast for all but a high speed camera? (yes) Was the "plane" flying supersonic? There were no reports of a sonic boom were there?

WHY!? hasn't inconclusive proof been shown? releasing five frames is not conclusive.Are they classified? Why? A government that will not reveal information on such a tragic and dastardly attack, makes me question their motives and reasoning.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 24, 2011, 10:18:18 AM »

Well TM I'd ask him if I could. He died several years ago and no it wasn't a conspiracy.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #25 on:** January 24, 2011, 02:19:45 PM »

Well TM I will go on the word of a retired career soldier. When I say I am in DC, the Twin Cities, Dallas, Chicago, it includes the suburbs, kinda a midwestern small town thing. Go ahead and keep believing your silly kindergarten lies. There are thousands of eye witnesses even some that were on the interstate and had the pplane fly right over them and saw the impact. You sure grasp at straws.

BTW are ya ready for the BBQ?

billy_56081 · « **Reply #26 on:** January 27, 2011, 03:45:46 AM »

I have. I guess your blinders made you not see them.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 27, 2011, 04:28:34 PM »

Some of the links posted have eyewitnesses to the IMPACT in them. As I said my cousin DID NOT SEE THE IMPACT, BUT HE WAS CLOSE ENOUGH TO HEAR IT RIGHT AFTER THE PLANE WENT OVER AND THEN SAW THE SMOKE. HE SAID FROM WHERE HE WAS THERE WAS NO WAY THE AIRLINER COULD HAVE PULLED UP WITHOUT HIM SEEING IT.

suba · « **Reply #28 on:** January 28, 2011, 03:14:37 AM »

It's funny how a few of you guys keep posting the same lame detracting attitudes. If you guys don't like what's being said, go find somewhere else. I for one am tired of your total ignorance of the facts. Your words only show how incapable you are thinking for yourselves. You guys have the blinders on, or your'e in bed with the devil. Either way, if you don't agree, go find a thread you agree with, or better yet, have the guts to make your own thread on whatever the heck you see fit.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 28, 2011, 09:54:06 AM »

TM I know it doesn't fit your silly lies, but as I said, my cousin was in the DC AREA. And NO TM HE DID NOT SEE THE IMPACT, BUT WAS CLOSE ENOUGH TO HEAR THE IMPACT AND SEE THE SMOKE IMMEDIATLY AFTER THE PLANE PASSED OVER HIM. HE ALSO STATED THERE WAS NO WAY THE PLANE COULD HAVE PULLED UP WITHPUT HIM SEEING IT.

I know this does not fit your agenda. But it is the truth that thousands were witnesses to.