Author Topic: use of RN bullets in tube magazines (Read 514 times)

Lone Yankee · « **on:** December 05, 2003, 09:24:49 PM »

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posted December 06, 2003 12:19 AM
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I have been thinking about this "problem" for the last few years. I have a Lyman 311291, 165 gr RN GC mould. I have had this mould for 40 years. When I bought the mould it was sold by Lyman as the best bullet for the .30-30 .

I also remember buying .30-30 ammo by Remington that had a RN bullet. The 170 and 150 gr power point bullets were always RN until recently. I had a box of Winchester .30WCF with 170 gr RN bullets. It was made around the turn of the century. I also had a box of Savage ammo made with RN jacketed SP bullets. The 150 gr RN Powerpoint was nearly sharp pointed. How can Lyman and other bullet makers use RN bullets for the .30-30 for 80 + years and all of a sudden change designs.

I don't believe a RN bullet is a problem . I do believe a spitzer bullet would be a problem, especialy with FMJ ammo. What is youe personal experience in this area. I will personally use my RN lead loads without any thought they are dangerous.

Lone

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J.W.Neely · « **Reply #1 on:** December 05, 2003, 11:15:15 PM »

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How can Lyman and other bullet makers use RN bullets for the .30-30 for 80 + years and all of a sudden change designs

I think the answer is........Trial Lawyers .....

Manatee · « **Reply #2 on:** December 06, 2003, 12:24:03 PM »

I dunno. I've heard that some magazines stack the cartridges in line, whilst others cant them. Might be true of the short cartridges, but a 30wcf? I don't think so.

One thing fer sure...them pistol primers are a lot touchier then rifle primers....

Flint · « **Reply #3 on:** December 06, 2003, 08:11:34 PM »

From what I've heard, the 30-30 in particular with it's wide rim and bottleneck shape lays in the tubular magazine with the bullet nose on the rim of the forward cartridge, below the primer, not against the primer. This would not be true of a cartridge like the 45Colt or 44-40, as the bullet diameter is so much larger in proportion to the rim, they are much less the Christmas tree shape of the 30-30.

w30wcf · « **Reply #4 on:** December 07, 2003, 03:26:28 PM »

Lone Yankee,

Like yourself and the pards have indicated, not a problem at all. If you lay two .30-30 cartridges on a table one will see that the nose of the bullet does not rest directly on the primer.

From the early 1920's up to the early 1950's, Winchester and Rem-Umc offered 110 gr. hollow pointed .30-30 ammunition. These bullets had hard noses of only 1/8" diameter. I have loaded 110 gr. Sierra hollowpoints for the past several years replicating this historic ammunition, cycled many of these cartridges through the magazine with not one problem whatsoever.

Have fun!

w30wcf