leupold vs redfield

[Spanky]

I've got a Redfield 2-7x33 Revolution and I like it. I've got an old Tasco 4x32 that I paid $10 bucks for... I like that one too. I guess my standards are a little lower than some guys.
I don't seem to have any trouble with any of 'em... whether they cost $10 bucks or $500 bucks (yes I've got some of them too) they all work good enough to shoot deer.
 
 
 
Spanky

[Empty Quiver]

I had similar thoughts with a Swift scope a couple seasons ago. It had done a good job on a knock about .22 for several years. I thought it would be about right on a 20ga slug gun. Well long and short of it is it would not hold the same zero two shots in a row. It was a "shotgun scope" but did not live up to the packaging. I figured it was a $40 lesson in optics.
 
No lesson taught like a lesson bought.

[fast*eddie]

Just wanted folks to know about the deception.

I understand . I was under the impression that because Leopold was the parent company that they were made in the USA . The Revelation is but the Revenge is not and I knew that before purchasing the Redfield scope .
It is printed on the side of the scope that it is manufactured in the Phillipines

[Drilling Man]

I understand . I was under the impression that because Leopold was the parent company that they were made in the USA . The Revelation is but the Revenge is not and I knew that before purchasing the Redfield scope .
It is printed on the side of the scope that it is manufactured in the Phillipines

  I guess there was NO decption then...  I've found Leupold to be a great company.
 
  DM

[8uck5nort]

I have bought Simmons, BSA, nikon, bushnell, redfield and luepolds. Bushnell has lifetime warranties and like someone stated above I have bought flea market scopes that were bad and sent them in and had them repaired or replaced for next to nothing. I am sure the other manufacutrers would do the same. My determining factor is cost and repetative use. I like to have the same scope in various magnification ranges using the same reticle on different platforms. I think it trains the brain to be looking at the same site picture over and over when I shoot. Just a theory. So, I have more redfields revolutions w/ the accurange reticles on most of my rifles. I have sold off my luepods, not because I didn't like them, but they held their value and allowed me to fund getting redfields that also are warrantied for life. I do like the Nikons they are tough to beat. I use the Simmons, and I am trying to consoladate on the 22 mag line, for all my rimfires. They get the most use and if I bust one up I am not too terribly concerned about it. 40.00 bucks and your back in business. So I would vote for consistency among your scopes. If ya have to swap them you don't have to re-learn the combo so to speak.

[boarhuntr]

I had similar thoughts with a Swift scope a couple seasons ago. It had done a good job on a knock about .22 for several years. I thought it would be about right on a 20ga slug gun. Well long and short of it is it would not hold the same zero two shots in a row. It was a "shotgun scope" but did not live up to the packaging. I figured it was a $40 lesson in optics.
 
No lesson taught like a lesson bought.

I had a Swift Premier scope on my Marlin 17 HMR. It was great. Good eye relief, eye box was wider than any of my other scopes. It killed ground squirrels out to 70 yds with no problema, just totally knocked them dead right there, not even a twitch. So I bought another Swift and put it on a new Savage Axis 308 and took it to the range. Damn scope would not track and the bullet holes were all over the place. Maybe there's something loose, like the base or rings. Have to check it out. But for now the Swift seems to me not capable of maintaining zero on a harder kicking gun like the 308.
Will let everyone know how the Axis shoots once I switch scopes.

[Swampman]

I understand . I was under the impression that because Leopold was the parent company that they were made in the USA . The Revelation is but the Revenge is not and I knew that before purchasing the Redfield scope .
It is printed on the side of the scope that it is manufactured in the Phillipines

  I guess there was NO decption then...  I've found Leupold to be a great company.
 
  DM

Leupold is a great company.  The deception is still there.

[pastorp]

IME the bushnell warnity is worthless.  my experience was with a pair of binocs that they no longer made.
 I called first then sent in per their instructions. They sent me a letter saying they could not repair them because they were no longer made. Well dauh. I told them that. Then they offered to sell me a new binoc for full retail and wanted to keep the ones I sent in for repair.
I declined & told them to send my old ones back.
After that experience I sold the 7-8 bushnell riflescopes I owned and will never buy another bushnell product. 

So all you bushnell lovers. Watch out because eventually they will get ya. 

Regards,

[AtlLaw]

IME the bushnell warnity is worthless.  ... and will never buy another bushnell product. 

+1

[Spanky]

I've got an old Bushnell Sportview 4x that I paid $13.77 for on Ebay... I like it.
 
 
 
Spanky

[pastorp]

Spunky, the first riflescope I ever bought was a bushnell sport view 2 & 3/4 power with the crosshairs & flip up post. It was a great scope but the companies way of doing business has changed. 

Regards,

[Lloyd Smale]

they jacked me around on a 4200 3x9 too that wouldnt hold zero after only 2 months. They claimed i damaged the scope. that scope was mounted and took to the range two days to work up loads. It took a bunch of phone calls and lots of persiverence to get them to go good on it. that much trouble with getting service on there top end models sure makes me doubt theyd stand behind there lower end models. I know i wont buy anohter. too bad because it seemed like a real decent scope and im the first to understand that ANY manufacture can let a bad one slip by once in a while.

IME the bushnell warnity is worthless.  my experience was with a pair of binocs that they no longer made.
 I called first then sent in per their instructions. They sent me a letter saying they could not repair them because they were no longer made. Well dauh. I told them that. Then they offered to sell me a new binoc for full retail and wanted to keep the ones I sent in for repair.
I declined & told them to send my old ones back.
After that experience I sold the 7-8 bushnell riflescopes I owned and will never buy another bushnell product. 

So all you bushnell lovers. Watch out because eventually they will get ya. 

Regards,

[Spanky]

Spunky, the first riflescope I ever bought was a bushnell sport view 2 & 3/4 power with the crosshairs & flip up post. It was a great scope but the companies way of doing business has changed. 

Regards,

 
Was your scope called a "Command Post"? I've got a chance to buy a real nice old 3-9 Bushy that says Command Post on it. You turn the dial and a post pops up in the crosshairs. I think I'd like the post for quick shots.
 
 
 
Spanky

[pastorp]

Yes I believe that is what they called it. It was. Long time ago. 

Regards,

[bucco921]

Spanky, if the command post is a reasonable price jump on it. I had one years ago on a gun I sold. My regret is letting the scope go and not the gun. Favorite scope ive ever owned. The glass was nice and the post reticle was priceless for hunting situations.

[Lloyd Smale]

my dads old 336adl had a comand post 2.5x scopecheif on it. I dont know how many deer were killed with that rifle but it would fill a couple trucks. I got the gun and took it off and put a apature sight on it. Gun then went to my nephew who still has it. Found the scope in a box a few months ago and my old man ask if he could have it back just for memorys. It still had nice clear optics although it looks road hard and put away wet.

[cwlongshot]

The Bushnell comand Post scopes where something I grew up with as well! I found a 6X Scope Chief V some years back and enjoy fixed 6X to this day.

I also have my Grandfathers two ''deer'' rifles from back then. One is a Mauser 98 with Peep sites the second is a Springfield 03a3 with a 1x4 Post Bushnell Banner. I like to take them out once in a while and shoot them.
It ALWAYS brings me back to those days hunting with him.

CW

[the_spotdoctor]

I have read all the posts  that were in this thread. Lots of opinions. Buy what makes you happy, a dead deer shot with a gun that has a Simmons or Bsa does not know the difference than being killed by a gun with a Schmidt and Bender on it,(if you can afford one.) I have looked through just about every scope there is from the 60s until now. There are some really great old ones and new ones. I have always thought Leupolds were overrated and overpriced. They do have a great warranty though. I have recently gotten rid of all the Leupolds I have through selling or trading them. I have not regretted it yet. I have always hated their friction adjustments and ultra thin crosshairs. But, each to his own.

[Lloyd Smale]

Have to admit i was never a fan of those friction ajustments either. As a matter of fact i just bought a 3x9 vx2 (newest model) to replace the last of my friction ajust leupolds. You cant really use those old friction ajust leupolds to judge them though. the new scopes are vastly superior opticaly and mechanicaly to those old ones. Kind of like saying you dont like fords because your grandpas model a broke down all the time. even the vx1 now has click ajustments and uses the same opitical glass and coatings the old vari x3s used to use. there a hell of a scope for 200 bucks. Leupold was allways one of the best scopes on the market for reliablility and theyve finally stepped up and offer that reliability with glass that compares to anything in there price range.

I have read all the posts  that were in this thread. Lots of opinions. Buy what makes you happy, a dead deer shot with a gun that has a Simmons or Bsa does not know the difference than being killed by a gun with a Schmidt and Bender on it,(if you can afford one.) I have looked through just about every scope there is from the 60s until now. There are some really great old ones and new ones. I have always thought Leupolds were overrated and overpriced. They do have a great warranty though. I have recently gotten rid of all the Leupolds I have through selling or trading them. I have not regretted it yet. I have always hated their friction adjustments and ultra thin crosshairs. But, each to his own.