Author Topic: .30-30s are no good! (Read 3945 times)

Swampman · « **on:** September 19, 2010, 03:03:14 PM »

I took the .30-30s out for a walk today. These are my knock about cheap deer rifles.

Ammo is 170 grain Remington Core-Lokts from Walmart at $14.99 a box.

50 yards NEF on the left and Glenfield 30 on the right.

100 yards Glenfield 30 on the left NEF on right.

The ladies lounging in the sun.

Swampman · « **Reply #1 on:** September 19, 2010, 03:08:21 PM »

It was hot. The barrels were scalding hot. The mirage was bad.

gatersb · « **Reply #2 on:** September 19, 2010, 03:30:15 PM »

if that aint good enough for ya just send them to my house. Just kidding great shooting by the way

hillbill · « **Reply #3 on:** September 19, 2010, 03:31:28 PM »

nuttin wrong with them 30 bores.i need to get my savage 340 out and shoot it.we been to busy shootin the 06's.i need to get the savage dialed in for the brush patch huntin.

eod20 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 19, 2010, 03:32:08 PM »

i would have to agree that just looks terrible i would make the humble suggestion that you send them to me to be put down

poncaguy · « **Reply #5 on:** September 19, 2010, 03:32:48 PM »

Very good!!

thejanitor · « **Reply #6 on:** September 19, 2010, 03:43:29 PM »

Looks like a great way to spend the day. Good job. My 30-30 is close to being my favorite. (It is the most accurate)
It's like the kids, you can't pick a favorite, they all have their moments of fun at the range with dad. thejanitor

moorepower · « **Reply #7 on:** September 19, 2010, 03:46:17 PM »

Are you sure it's enough gun to kill a deer?

Swampman · « **Reply #8 on:** September 19, 2010, 04:12:16 PM »

I believe many a back strap dinner would say that it is.

mechanic · « **Reply #9 on:** September 19, 2010, 05:56:20 PM »

Now Swampi, that is some good shooting, but you should know by now that a 30-30 is only big enough for ground squirrel. You got to have at least a 300 Win. Mag. to hunt white tails. I'm sure I read that somewhere.......

rsl · « **Reply #10 on:** September 19, 2010, 06:33:32 PM »

Mine will shoot 1" groups at 100 yards with Wincherster 170 grain power point factory ammo.. Give it a try.

bikerbeans · « **Reply #11 on:** September 20, 2010, 03:33:02 AM »

Mechanic,

You are making me nervous. I am putting together a fully rifled 410 slug gun for Ohio whitetail and now I find out I need at least the energy of a 300 WM. I guess I better get a hold of Mr. Hubel and get me a real slug gun.

BB

jlchucker · « **Reply #12 on:** September 20, 2010, 03:56:00 AM »

Quote from: rsl on September 19, 2010, 06:33:32 PM

Mine will shoot 1" groups at 100 yards with Wincherster 170 grain power point factory ammo.. Give it a try.

And I'll bet Swampy's will do as good, and maybe better, with a gaschecked cast bullet, too. I just got done viewing your targets on another site, Swampman. You've got them envious over there. Here too!

ham7777 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 20, 2010, 04:11:42 AM »

If anyone reloads try 28gr. 3031 and 150gr. Remington round nose.This load was one of my Dad's favorite,and has shot great in my Winchester, Marlin,Savage and good old Handi rifles. At 50 yards it shoot almost a one hole group and at a 100 it would do the under 1" group if I could it still

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That way you shoot them in the eye and do not need the .300mag.

Later Tom

BBF · « **Reply #14 on:** September 20, 2010, 07:44:59 AM »

Quote from: rsl on September 19, 2010, 06:33:32 PM

Mine will shoot 1" groups at 100 yards with Wincherster 170 grain power point factory ammo.. Give it a try.

Yep, I just can see Swampman buying WW Ammo

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #15 on:** September 20, 2010, 08:09:08 AM »

Quote from: scatterbrain on September 20, 2010, 07:44:59 AM

Quote from: rsl on September 19, 2010, 06:33:32 PM
Mine will shoot 1" groups at 100 yards with Wincherster 170 grain power point factory ammo.. Give it a try.

Yep, I just can see Swampman buying WW Ammo

He would wear a fake beard like the bank robbers so noone could prove it was him buying other than the Big Green box.
He would loosen his scope and shoot a group or two with the WW stuff just to show you have well the Remington does.

Swampman only rootes for the Packers and mows his lawn with a John Deer as they share the same color scheemes as Remington.

Swampman · « **Reply #16 on:** September 20, 2010, 08:24:20 AM »

If I can get it real cheap I'll buy off brands like WW or Federal to use for rough sighting guns in.

BBF · « **Reply #17 on:** September 20, 2010, 08:51:30 AM »

Quote from: Swampman on September 20, 2010, 08:24:20 AM

If I can get it real cheap I'll buy off brands like WW or Federal to use for rough sighting guns in.

Who would have "Thunck" that

mannyrock · « **Reply #18 on:** September 20, 2010, 09:45:47 AM »

The .30-30 round is so perfect that it is extremely boring.

Swampman · « **Reply #19 on:** September 22, 2010, 06:03:36 AM »

In Why Not Load Your Own?, Fourth Edition, Revised, 1957, page 176, Whelen wrote,

"Way back in 1901 and 1902 I shot many mule deer, sheep, and goats with my .30-30, and very successfully up to about 150 yards, but I also subsisted largely on grouse, rabbit, ducks, porcupine, and beaver shot with reduced loads. The .30-30 is not to be despised as an all-around rifle."

Swampman · « **Reply #20 on:** September 22, 2010, 06:11:57 AM »

Calvin Rutstrum said...

"Gun lovers have their own guns and it is not well to argue with them. For many years I carried restocked Springfields, Mausers and others. Now I carry a 30-30 Winchester carbine with sling. The much improved cartridge in this weapon will stop a moose or a bear without trouble. The gun is small, light, has good balance for carrying, and is convenient. For safety the sling is looped around a thwart in a canoe and around a cross bar or a lash rope on a dog sled."

Big Blue · « **Reply #21 on:** September 22, 2010, 09:14:15 AM »

Quote from: Swampman on September 22, 2010, 06:11:57 AM

Calvin Rutstrum said...

"I carry a 30-30 Winchester carbine with sling. The much improved cartridge in this weapon will stop a moose or a bear without trouble."

One rifle to do it all? Don't you ever let my Wife hear you say that!!
Don

petemi · « **Reply #22 on:** September 22, 2010, 09:24:00 AM »

One rifle to do it all? Don't you ever let my Wife hear you say that!!
Don

Yeah, Patty still thinks I need the .357 Max for mice and the .445 for chipmunks and red squirrels

Pete

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #23 on:** September 22, 2010, 10:05:47 AM »

Quote from: Swampman on September 20, 2010, 08:24:20 AM

If I can get it real cheap I'll buy off brands like WW or Federal to use for rough sighting guns in.

You crack me up ! Got to ask - do ya work for Remington ? They should pay you

Swampman · « **Reply #24 on:** September 22, 2010, 10:59:05 AM »

No but I bought my first Remington when I was six years old for $10.00. It was a 514 Boy's Rifle and it never missed. Nearly 50 years later I still think a Remington is as pretty as a women's leg, and they still never miss.

Graycg · « **Reply #25 on:** September 23, 2010, 03:33:31 AM »

when y'all get bored of shooting those passing fad Jacketed bullets, give a nice hardcast lyman 311041 flat nosed bullet a ride over 21 grains of RL 7 and find out what real accuracy is.... had to lose the scope off my Savage 340 and switch to peeps and globe front sight to keep it interesting... My handi prefers 10 grains of unique with the same bullet....

I only kept the 340 in 30-30 because my 'smith wouldn't router it out to 300 mag!

regards,
Graycg

Swampman · « **Reply #26 on:** September 23, 2010, 03:40:56 AM »

I have everything but the mold. Free lead is hard to find around here.

Graycg · « **Reply #27 on:** September 23, 2010, 04:47:28 AM »

You can buy them precast commercially if you like, lasercast sells them for about a dime a piece shipped, not bad at all...

regards,
Graycg

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #28 on:** September 23, 2010, 04:50:53 AM »

Quote from: Swampman on September 22, 2010, 10:59:05 AM

No but I bought my first Remington when I was six years old for $10.00. It was a 514 Boy's Rifle and it never missed. Nearly 50 years later I still think a Remington is as pretty as a women's leg, and they still never miss.

I have one of those . My uncle must have killed 100's of hogs with it over the years .

Swampman · « **Reply #29 on:** September 23, 2010, 05:46:20 AM »

My father gave me his 514 right before he passed away. It will be passed on to my son.