Author Topic: .30-30s are no good! (Read 3938 times)

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #30 on:** September 23, 2010, 05:51:36 AM »

I saw one a couple sat's ago that the bolt had lost the handle . The owner was getting it fixed .

Swampman · « **Reply #31 on:** September 23, 2010, 06:59:42 AM »

When I go hunting I can barely walk for the Remington bolt handles laying around

petemi · « **Reply #32 on:** September 23, 2010, 08:11:41 AM »

I started my shooting life at 11 with the .22 Rem 521T my dad gave me. Unfortunately, it was stolen about 30 years ago in Florida. I still miss it. Da tirty-tirty aint worth a poop.....that's why I only own three...two Marlin lever 336s and a Handi. Now I've got to get reloading for both. Round nose in the levers and pointys in the Handi.

Pete

Spanky · « **Reply #33 on:** September 23, 2010, 06:58:05 PM »

You and me must be peas in a pod Swampy... I've got a Glenfield and a Handi 30-30 too.

The wood on your glenfield is nicer than mine though... mine is plain jane with no checkering. My Grandfather gave it to me after I shot my first buck with it... it's priceless.

I wouldn't be without a 30-30 in the house.

Spanky

Swampman · « **Reply #34 on:** September 24, 2010, 12:09:34 AM »

This sounds crazy but I swear it's true. I bought that stock set from 2 different people for a total of about $80.00. The buttstock was brand new and the forearm was very slightly used. I sold the original birch stock set on eBay for $250.00.

gendoc · « **Reply #35 on:** September 24, 2010, 01:51:17 AM »

hey swampman, i gotta admit. my bicentineal edition marlin 336 in 30-30
is a very accurate off hand lever. its did-in many thangs and i ate'um too !!!
xcept fer tha kiyots.....

had it since new in 1976. and its in the category of "never part wif"

ihookem · « **Reply #36 on:** September 26, 2010, 01:36:43 PM »

"The 30-30 is the ultimate in long range pronghorn hunting, but they can't be looking at you when you shoot cause the puff of smoke out the barrel makes them jump enough you will miss them by ten feet" Teddy Roosevelt.

PeterCartwright · « **Reply #37 on:** September 28, 2010, 02:41:13 AM »

My first Handi (a .30-30, of course) just helped another new hunter take his first whitetail last weekend during Michigan's "Youth Hunt". Green box 150 gr. ammo means meat. This combination (Handi/.30-30/Remington 150 Corelokt) has helped a growing number of kids enter the deer hunting fraternity. Fun!

PC

petemi · « **Reply #38 on:** September 28, 2010, 04:11:51 AM »

Peter, that is super. I killed my first deer with "da tirty tirty" a half a hundred years ago and I'll never forget it. That 336 hangs over my bed, loaded and ready to go today.....and she's as pretty as new.

I'm gonna digress a minute. All my guns are loaded and ready to go. I have two Grandsons, one 15 and the younger 6. Both are gun savy, shoot and are safety trained. They know the guns are loaded and keep their hands off them unless told otherwise. To me, an unloaded gun is nothing more than a club. The best accident prevention is training kids to use guns safely....not locking them up. I know I'll catch some flak on this one.

Pete

dovehunter · « **Reply #39 on:** September 28, 2010, 07:28:56 AM »

Swampman:

If you reload, you may want to try some 150 gr. spitzer bullets in your .30-30 Handi. I use Hornady's 150 gr. spire points in my Savage 340 and they will shoot 1" +/- groups at 100 yds. all day. I've been thinking about getting a .30-30 barrel for my Handi.

Catshooter45 · « **Reply #40 on:** September 28, 2010, 11:27:21 AM »

Quote from: petemi on September 28, 2010, 04:11:51 AM

I'm gonna digress a minute. All my guns are loaded and ready to go. I have two Grandsons, one 15 and the younger 6. Both are gun savy, shoot and are safety trained. They know the guns are loaded and keep their hands off them unless told otherwise. To me, an unloaded gun is nothing more than a club. The best accident prevention is training kids to use guns safely....not locking them up. I know I'll catch some flak on this one.

Pete

That's the only way to teach 'em pete. I won't give you any flak, however, if you ever have a house fire, well, that can be bad. For you, any neighbors (if any) and the firemen.

I used to know a fireman, and he told me they would always ask (if possible) if there were any loaded firearms in the structure. If the answer was yes, they stayed outside. Just sayin' . . .

Cat

quickdtoo · « **Reply #41 on:** September 28, 2010, 11:35:19 AM »

I have, or should say have had three 30-30 barrels, sold one, bought another, still have two, they all have shot excellent, one is a modern SB2 30-30 Handi that I rechambered to Ackley Improved, the other is a Model 158 on an early SB2 frame, pics are worth a thous...

Tim

Swampman · « **Reply #42 on:** September 28, 2010, 12:07:46 PM »

100 yards?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #43 on:** September 28, 2010, 01:37:09 PM »

Yup, that's all I shoot except to make sure I'm close at 25yds first after bore sighting.

Tim

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #44 on:** September 29, 2010, 06:10:01 AM »

The 30-30 will do anything at 100 yards that a 3006 will do a 300 and a 300 WM will do at 400. That makes it a hunters gun not a snipers gun .

dlariscey · « **Reply #45 on:** September 29, 2010, 05:33:42 PM »

Hey guys new to the forum so hello. I have owned three handi rifles a 45-70 i got when i was 15, a .223, and a .308 survivor. The 45-70 was great for a 15 yr old who loved to shoot cinder block and water jugs. The .223 I got when I was about 20 and if I missed my target it was my fault not the rifle it was moa accurate. The .308 I got about 5 yrs ago at one of my local shops and the owners gave me a good deal on a used scope he had in the shop. The .308 would barely print on paper so I got mad and traded it. Hind site I think it was the scope i got such a great deal on.
To the point I quit hunting about 13 yrs ago because the wife dose not eat deer meat and we were dirt poor when we got married. I mean sell guns to pay the light bill and buy food. I was 17 she was 18 and we had a baby was on the way. Anyway 13yrs, another baby, and some good paying jobs later and I'm gonna start back hunting. I could go buy a bolt gun or I could use my ar (I shoot idpa and 3 gun) but I want a handi rifle b/c I have fond memories of the ones I had in the past. I'm in the middle of converting my game room to a reloading room to reload for the rifle I buy and for my .45acp. So what do you guys think the .308 survivor or the handi in 30-30. Take into account I've been shooting since I was 8 but have never reloaded in my life.

Thanks Matt

tacklebury · « **Reply #46 on:** September 29, 2010, 06:04:37 PM »

Quote from: dlariscey on September 29, 2010, 05:33:42 PM

So what do you guys think the .308 survivor or the handi in 30-30. Take into account I've been shooting since I was 8 but have never reloaded in my life.

Welcome aboard Matt. I broke into reloading recently and have been loving it. If it were my choice, I'd have to go for the 30-30. They are rated as the most accurate of the handi's typically too. Lots of factory ammo available also.

I started out loading with the Lee Classic loader in .45-70, .45 Colt and .45 ACP. Had pretty good results. Then earlier this year, I bought a Lee Hand Press and dies for the same. I'd get the Deluxe Pistol dies if you go this way. If there's any chance you want to do any camp reloading as such, I'd buy the Lee Classics for your calibers as well. It's peace of mind for me to know I have such a simple tool waiting as a back-up in case of a broken die, etc. I also like having the Decapping base and rod to deprime with off the press. Of course there are bigger and better presses and such, but this set-up works good for me and is all portable in a 3x3 box including all my powders, dies and components.

Swampman · « **Reply #47 on:** September 30, 2010, 12:42:04 AM »

Lee makes some great starter sets and Midsouth Shooters Supply has great prices on them. I'd go with a .30-30 or a bolt gun in .308 or .30-06.

jlchucker · « **Reply #48 on:** September 30, 2010, 04:02:13 AM »

Quote from: Swampman on September 30, 2010, 12:42:04 AM

Lee makes some great starter sets and Midsouth Shooters Supply has great prices on them. I'd go with a .30-30 or a bolt gun in .308 or .30-06.

I've got to agree with Swampman on this. I'd choose the 30-30 first, if I were just getting started or just getting back into it like dlariscy says. Second (but only a close second) would be 30-06. I've owned both at one time or another, and the 06 is a little easier to load for--especially if you want to, or have a need to, work up a load for cast bullets. Not that the 308 isn't good with those as well--it's just that the 06 is a little easier to work with.

Old Fart · « **Reply #49 on:** September 30, 2010, 04:42:39 AM »

You guys are killing me.

Every time I look at this thread I get to thinking I need a 30-30 Handi.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #50 on:** September 30, 2010, 04:58:34 AM »

Quote from: Old Fart on September 30, 2010, 04:42:39 AM

You guys are killing me.
Every time I look at this thread I get to thinking I need a 30-30 Handi.

Just one?

Tim

dlariscey · « **Reply #51 on:** September 30, 2010, 06:55:51 AM »

Thanks guys think i'm gonna go with the 30-30 to start with. As far a reloading a friend of mine is gonna sell me his dillian square deal B set up for the .45acp. I'm gonna go with the lee press for the rifle reloading.

Thanks, Matt

bikerbeans · « **Reply #52 on:** September 30, 2010, 09:12:19 AM »

you'll like the Dillon SDB, free repair parts forever, even if you are not the original owner. I've got Square Deal, model before the "B", that was built in the mid 80s and it is still going strong.

BB

wreckhog · « **Reply #53 on:** September 30, 2010, 11:42:38 AM »

Reloading is a hobby in and of itself. I buy cast for 30-30 and can shoot for these days at about 15 cents a shot (2 cents primer, 3 cents powder, 2 cents prorated used brass, 8 cents bullet). Of course I probably have spent $500 on equipment getting to that point. When my wife is watching some silly TV show, I can grab the Lee Hand Press, sit at any table, and turn out 40 rounds before the half hour sitcom is finished. That is a fair amount of shooting in a Handi. I do the same with a Hornet, but because Hornet cases are more expensive/delicate, and I can't buy cast, a Hornet costs a bit more to reload. My 2 favorite rounds in a Handi though. 45-70 is a distant 3rd, and I love the 45-70.

unclebart · « **Reply #54 on:** September 30, 2010, 01:57:36 PM »

311041. MM Good!

jlchucker · « **Reply #55 on:** October 01, 2010, 04:00:26 AM »

Quote from: unclebart on September 30, 2010, 01:57:36 PM

311041. MM Good!

Yup! It's the one I first started with, and am still using the mold. A little while back I got a plainbase version on a group buy, and wouldn't hesitate to use that one if I ran out of gaschecks, either. Ranchdog's 30-30 flatnose mold intrigues me, too--but he advertises it for Marlins, and my 30-30's are Winchesters. It should work in a Handi, though. I keep eyeing the picture of that mold--and thinking "deer season".

Graycg · « **Reply #56 on:** October 01, 2010, 09:05:01 AM »

I knew if we kept this 30-30 thread alive, we would circle back to the Lyman 311041! Goes together like peas and carrots, the 30-30 and 311041 they do.... I was even considering policing up and using a few of those broken-off remington bolt handles to use as mould handles for my 311041 blocks.....

regards,
Graycg

Junior1942 · « **Reply #57 on:** October 01, 2010, 10:51:10 AM »

Quote from: jlchucker on October 01, 2010, 04:00:26 AM

Quote from: unclebart on September 30, 2010, 01:57:36 PM
311041. MM Good!

Yup! It's the one I first started with, and am still using the mold. A little while back I got a plainbase version on a group buy, and wouldn't hesitate to use that one if I ran out of gaschecks, either. Ranchdog's 30-30 flatnose mold intrigues me, too--but he advertises it for Marlins, and my 30-30's are Winchesters. It should work in a Handi, though. I keep eyeing the picture of that mold--and thinking "deer season".

The Ranch Dog 30-30 flatnosed works really, really well in my Winchester 30-30s. My alloy is ACWW. Lube is LLA.