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Re: Jimmy Carter: I'm "Probably Superior" To Other Former Presidents
« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2010, 05:11:00 AM »
What Reagan did for starters, get our people OUT of that situation, immediately, with no quibbling or hesitation.  We don't negotiate with terrorists, so the only thing we can do is to REACT to what they do.  Key word being ACT.

Reagan didn't negotiate the Algiers Accords which got the hostages freed, the Carter Administration did. So again - if you don't negotiate with 'terrorists', what do you do? And since it's in this thread - what should Carter have done?
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Re: Jimmy Carter: I'm "Probably Superior" To Other Former Presidents
« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2010, 06:04:41 AM »
  It is just about time the truth of Jimmy Carter was exposed and explained. he is a greedy, self-seeking wimp. Many have been puzzled hoe Jimmy can claim to be a 'born-again Christiuan' and still protect and sponsor the abortion holocaust..many are baffled that Jimmy should be a genuine Christian and back the terrorists over Israel..he has long been an enigma to studious Christians.
     Here is a video by  www.terrorismawareness.org  which presents a neat history of the middle east and Jimmy's dealings there. It sure clears up a lot of long standing questions:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVMc4g3ybnI
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« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2010, 06:16:00 AM »
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he has long been an enigma to studious Christians.
Well, that's easy to explain: lots of studious Christians have confused GOP for Jesus, which kind of indicates that maybe their studiousness isn't doing them much good (unless political power is their end goal)

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Re: Jimmy Carter: I'm "Probably Superior" To Other Former Presidents
« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2010, 06:25:00 AM »
Call carter a Christian if you want, but REAL Christians don't believe in killing babies or vote and back those that do. Carter was a wimp. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: Jimmy Carter: I'm "Probably Superior" To Other Former Presidents
« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2010, 06:33:28 AM »
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Call carter a Christian if you want, but REAL Christians don't believe in killing babies or vote and back those that do. Carter was a wimp.

Two thumbs up on that one Powder Man.
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Re: Jimmy Carter: I'm "Probably Superior" To Other Former Presidents
« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2010, 07:05:28 AM »
The only thing Carter has ever been good at is building houses for crack dealers.
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That's really not true in many cases. I worked on some .
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Re: Jimmy Carter: I'm "Probably Superior" To Other Former Presidents
« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2010, 07:09:27 AM »
The only thing Carter has ever been good at is building houses for crack dealers.
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That's really not true in many cases. I worked on some .
Of course it's not true; Habitat for Humanity has done much good, and is an opportunity to serve your fellow man. Good on you for participating.
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« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2010, 07:14:37 AM »
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« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2010, 07:34:55 AM »
Carter is a front man anyway .
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Re: Jimmy Carter: I'm "Probably Superior" To Other Former Presidents
« Reply #39 on: September 22, 2010, 08:03:25 AM »
YT3, Carter negotiated. Way to long. These people only understand one thing. Force. They knew Carter wasn't going to do anything. They also knew Reagan was going to do something. Probably level a city or 2. These people are not soldiers, or really civilized. Maybe you think you can reason with them. Only thing that makes them think is the point of a bayonet, or the barrel of a gun. gypsyman
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Re: Jimmy Carter: I'm "Probably Superior" To Other Former Presidents
« Reply #40 on: September 22, 2010, 08:19:32 AM »
YT3, Carter negotiated. Way to long. These people only understand one thing. Force. They knew Carter wasn't going to do anything. They also knew Reagan was going to do something. Probably level a city or 2. These people are not soldiers, or really civilized. Maybe you think you can reason with them. Only thing that makes them think is the point of a bayonet, or the barrel of a gun. gypsyman

That's what I thought at the time. Leveling a city would result in lots of dead people who didn't deserve to be burned to death, and we probably wouldn't have gotten the hostages back (assuming that was the goal)

it'll set off some peeps, but fact is... the Iranians had some pretty strong grievances against us, stretching back a couple decades. Esp. when you factor those in - or not? - nuking civilians would have been wholly immoral. And President Carter DID try to rescue them.
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« Reply #41 on: September 22, 2010, 09:25:34 AM »
The rescue operation was not run in a profesonal way. People were changed at the last min. Equipment choice was flawed and selected equipment group was not at full force . It was bad enough the military changed its response training and command for cases like this in future operations . America or Carter were ready for what was going on.
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Re: Jimmy Carter: I'm "Probably Superior" To Other Former Presidents
« Reply #42 on: September 22, 2010, 10:16:23 AM »
As matter of fact there was quite a scandal a while back about the number of Habitat for Humanity houses that were being busted for being dope houses. Mostly crack.
        I am not into building houses for people to lazy to work and buy their own! I don't owe that scum anything!   
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Re: Jimmy Carter: I'm "Probably Superior" To Other Former Presidents
« Reply #43 on: September 22, 2010, 10:48:14 AM »
algiers accords aside, if jimmy had been reelected the hostages would have sat there 4 more years while the ragheads used the situation to recruit more godless ones to their cause.
ask any old iranian, they had it better under the shah than khomeni(sp)
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« Reply #44 on: September 22, 2010, 06:41:52 PM »
Time for a little "truth serum".  
   For those who are too young to have experienced the humiliation of the US..by the team of Ayatollah Kohmeni & Jimmy Carter, let's have a timeline. First, you should have viewed the video posted above..showing the millions of dollars Jimmie was getting from the Islamic states, even before his brother Billie..became a secret agent for Libya; it would help to explain the picture...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVMc4g3ybnI
    Khomeni is sitting in Paris, while a number of Islamofacists are rabble rousing in Iran. Our ally in the area, the Shah..with a little American aid in weapons & training, could have handled it and prevented the takeover of the Iran oil and billions of bucks by the fledgling Islamofacist movement. ....But Carter denied the help, allowing the Ayatollah to hold a victory parade in downtown Teheran, Iran..while the Shah fled with his family, to Mexico and then to the US.
   Khomeni and his crazies wanted to get hold of the Shah, so they could slice, dice, behead and do whatever other niceties the devotees of the pedophile like to do to prisoners.
   Here at last, Jimmie stands firm..no Shah for torture!
   The Islamofacists, true to their nature, then turn against their benefactor, and take over the US embassy in Iran, making a monkey of this 1970s Obama. Carter seemed to share the same proclivities as Barack Hussein O....if one bows, scrapes and prostrates before our sworn enemies..they will soon become 'nice guys'.
    Like Barack Hussein O, Carter immediately cancelled defense projects and drastically reduced the defense budget. Our fleet went from around 1,000 ships to about 600. by the time RR took office, the remaining ships did not have enough ammo to fire every one of it's guns one time. Democrats have always done that..B Hussein has already cancelled major defense weapons, the missle defense system and even  stopping anymore space operations at NASA..turning it instead, into mission into a "Muslim Appreciation Society", you KNOW these things ..and so do I..
  Carters defense budget cutbacks were so drastic, even special force troops , such as he deployed on the ill advised, ill planned and ill executed "rescue operation' was lost for that very reason. Lacking funds and ammo for training, the troops were not anywhere near their peak performance. The aircraft were not properly maintained..due to these same cutbacks..it was doomed to failure almost before it was launched. The mission was a cold-blooded waste of brave American lives..  All of this because of "bumbles" Carter...

  
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« Reply #45 on: September 22, 2010, 07:26:28 PM »
  Now, about the "October Surprise"..  The only surprise there was the election of the guy the Ayatollahs considered a 'quick draw cowboy'.
  They fully expected that our whole nation was primarily a bunch of weaklings..judging by their experiences with Carter & Co. When 'Ronaldus Magnus' was elected, they were first baffled..then scared s---less.
  No "special deals" were needed..Wild Bill Hickok made no "deals' with the people he found needing elimination..nor did the 20th century 'cowboy' Reagan. As proof..as soon as Reagan was sworn in..our people being held prisoner were released...the ayatollahs were scared out of their birkas..
  Yes, we all heard at the time about the hen clucking by the super-radical left about a deal, they even claimed VP Bush did the dealing.       There was one problem though; VP Bush was in the public eye and had no real opportunity to get away long enough to accomplish such a deal in Teheran. This was a real problem for the conspiracy addicts..so they needed a plausible (to them) scenario. :P
    Well, conspiracy addicts can always dream up a scenario..
   The old WW2 torpedo bomber pilot jumped into a SR71 Blackbird (mach 4 or 5) ultra secret airplane..flew to Iran and made the deal..gone only a few hours!!
   Now, that makes sense..we should send a vice president and super secret, "fastest airplane that ever flew" (even to now) airplane over to land at a sworn enemy's airport..an enemy who already had taken by force and now held, the entire US embassy staff. :o ::) :P ..The same animals who burned, dragged and disaplayed our now deceased rescue troops..  ::) :'(  Well, nobody ever accuses conspiracy addicts of being geniuses. ;D
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Re: Jimmy Carter: I'm "Probably Superior" To Other Former Presidents
« Reply #46 on: September 23, 2010, 01:53:44 AM »
OMG, TM you never ever fail to crack me up. Now you are saying the Jews made Jimma look like a fool. Dude you need to save some of these for your comedy routine at the BBQ.  ;D :D ;D :D

Thanks for the Laugh.

I happen to know the highest ranking person who was held in Iran Bruce Laingen lives right down the road from here. He hasn't said anything about the evil Jews were the ones holding him and the others hostage.
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« Reply #47 on: September 23, 2010, 04:33:43 PM »
If memory serves me right old TM, Jimma Cottah aprroved plan was a knife attack used by the soldiers to rescue the hostages. Old Jimma musta been kinda a comedian like yourself.   

And another thing old TM if as you say "Presently, 56% of the USA economy is war and military based" why is the economy so bad in the US right now? Oh wait we all need to be like you old TM, and not believe what we see and our own experiences.  ::)

I am caught between thinking you are either a master comedian or totally nuts.
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Re: Jimmy Carter: I'm "Probably Superior" To Other Former Presidents
« Reply #48 on: September 23, 2010, 04:36:37 PM »
Carter,  mmmm, let's see: victim of October Surprise, good take on zionists activities cost him banker support, good religious intepretations, and foremost seems like a good human being,,,as for a president don't know.....likely no good president for God, People and the Country will ever be allowed to exist and will end up trashed.


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Not a problem for Carter, since none of that fits him except for the surprise.
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« Reply #49 on: September 23, 2010, 04:50:37 PM »
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The Shah of Iran was universally hated in Iran for running a terror operation

That's what we were told back then and probably so! But the present Muslim regime from what little information we get seems to be no better. From my perspective It seems we backed a "friend" then and as you say it was his time to go, due to his own misdeeds. But now we have religious fanatics, or at least they profess to be, running their own terror operation now. We should, I think, help the people of Iran shed themselves of the present day tyrants.

If only we could do something about our own ruling class tyrants!  ::)
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« Reply #50 on: September 23, 2010, 04:52:07 PM »

Ooops dont know exactly how i did this its a double post could someone kindly remove one of em?

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The Shah of Iran was universally hated in Iran for running a terror operation

That's what we were told back then and probably so! But the present Muslim regime from what little information we get seems to be no better. From my perspective It seems we backed a "friend" then and as you say it was his time to go, due to his own misdeeds. But now we have religious fanatics, or at least they profess to be, running their own terror operation now. We should, I think, help the people of Iran shed themselves of the present day tyrants.

If only we could do something about our own ruling class tyrants!  ::)
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« Reply #51 on: September 23, 2010, 04:55:48 PM »
You got it wrong, man. Carter is brilliant. That passive aggressive back stabbing throat cutter is coming back from beyond the grave to hammer nails into Obama's coffin so that some president other than Carter is seen as the worst president in living memory. Carter has been a despised laughing stock for over 30 years. He wants to shed that mantle and give it to somebody else. Fortunately for him, Obama is giving lots of help.

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« Reply #52 on: September 23, 2010, 04:57:55 PM »
You got it wrong, man. Carter is brilliant. That passive aggressive back stabbing throat cutter is coming back from beyond the grave to hammer nails into Obama's coffin so that some president other than Carter is seen as the worst president in living memory. Carter has been a despised laughing stock for over 30 years. He wants to shed that mantle and give it to somebody else. Fortunately for him, Obama is giving lots of help.

Good point!  ;D
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« Reply #53 on: September 23, 2010, 05:02:24 PM »
Yes he is very busy traveling around the World telling everyone how bad America is.

Did he? What did he say?

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Jimmy Carter's Middle East mess

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There's a raging battle going on right now for the future of the Middle East and one man is doing his dead-level best to undermine our security needs and objectives in this volatile region.

What is most scary of all is that man will cost American lives as a result of his foolish and dangerous actions.

Yes, that one man is Jimmy Carter, and it's time to stop him.

Specifically, the Congress of the United States (as the people's representative) must issue a resolution of censure against Jimmy Carter.

Hurting America over and over

More than 25 years after we thought we had relegated him to slinging a hammer and nail for poor people, he's back, meddling in international affairs.

Jimmy Carter has become increasingly consumed with vengeful determination to hurt this administration while it is trying to bring stability to some of the most critical regions around the globe.


Pathologically, Carter has set out to prove us all wrong by siding with America's enemies to show it is the United States that stands in the way of world peace.

It's infuriating enough to watch the one time peanut farmer from Plains, Ga., propping up anti-American dictators like Venezuela's Hugo Chavez, North Korea's Kim Sung Il, or Cuba's Fidel Castro.

But what scares the hell out of most of us who see the world as it really is and not as we wish it to be is Carter's efforts to take away the tools we need to fight against Islamic terrorism, which poses a real threat to American security at home. See the movie, "United 93," in case you forgot about 9-11.

The Iranian crisis

Who can forget Jimmy Carter's true legacy: The impotent do-nothing policy in response to the Islamic fundamentalist crisis in Iran that led directly to waves of revolutionary fervor and ended in a 444-day hostage crisis.

Henry Precht, the State Department's country director for Iran during the Iranian crisis admits that the failures in Iran by the Carter administration allowed for Islamofacism to reach new heights.

"There had never been an Islamic revolution" prior to the Iranian situation, Precht acknowledged to the Middle East Journal.

When Jimmy Carter piously backed away from the Shah's regime in Iran, as Islamic revolutionaries were rioting in the streets, he sentenced the world to a pandemic of Islamic extremist violence for decades to come.

The Iranian military officials who were loyal to the shah (and anti-communist and opposed to the religious extremism of Khomeini) were working to quell the uprising by the Islamic revolutionaries. However, Jimmy Carter used his presidential authority, instructing the Iranian military officials to withdraw their support for the shah, and allowing Khomeini to seize power.

We are all now condemned to suffering the consequences of Carter's miserable failure in Iran.

If you are of a certain age, you no doubt remember Iranian students and Islamic radicals storming the U.S. Embassy in Tehran. Who can forget the video images of young thugs running wild in the streets, taking American diplomats and Marines hostage?

Predictably the Ayatollah Khomeini's regime executed thousands of political opponents, including those same military leaders from the Shah's government who had been told by Carter to stand down.

Here in the United States, Jimmy Carter did little to quell violent protests by Iranian radicals who took to the streets outside the White House, and turned even Beverly Hills into a scene of violence.

Did Jimmy Carter learn any lessons?

Undeterred by Islamic radicalism

One might think that the humiliation he suffered as a result of his failures in Iran might make him aware of the dangers posed by Islamic extremists who are consumed with a palpable hatred for the West.

Instead, Jimmy Carter has made it his personal mission to side with the proponents of radical Islam over U.S. and Israeli interests time and time again.

When British writer Salman Rushdie wrote "The Satanic Verses," a critical account of Islam and the Prophet Muhammed, Islamofacists turned violent once more.

Iran's Ayatollah Khomeini issued a fatwah calling for the death of Rushdie and backed it up with a $3 million bounty. Bookstores that carried Rushdie's book (including those in the United States) were firebombed. Riots broke out in front of British embassies around the globe. Rushdie's Japanese translator was stabbed to death. So too was his Italian translator. His Norwegian publisher was shot in an attack outside his house.

So what did Jimmy Carter do? He turned the humiliation inside out, protesting the negative reaction by Westerners to the violent acts of Islamic extremists.

Carter wrote in a New York Times op-ed that while, "Rushdie's First Amendment freedoms are important, we have tended to promote him and his book with little acknowledgement that it is a direct insult to those millions of Moslems whose sacred beliefs have been violated ..."

Carter insisted that we must not be too mean to the Islamofacist regime in Tehran. "To sever diplomatic relations with Iran over this altercation is an overreaction that could be quite costly in future years. Tactful public statements and private discussions could still defuse this explosive situation."

Terrorists good, Westerners bad

Talk about "explosive situations," Jimmy Carter hasn't met a terrorist bomber that he didn't defend.

When Palestinian terrorist groups were setting off suicide bombs in Israel to slaughter innocent civilians, Carter's response was to go to the Middle East and condemn not the terrorists, but the Israeli government for not playing nice with the terrorists.

When Iraqi dictator, Saddam Hussein, announced he would pay the families of Palestinian terrorists $25,000 for each suicide bombing committed against Israeli citizens, Carter responded by defending Hussein and fighting to lift the U.N. sanctions imposed on Iraq.

Carter went so far as to welcome Iraqi intelligence agent, Samir Vincent, into Carter's Atlanta area home and treated him to a night on the town. Samir Vincent even became a business associate of Jimmy Carter's friends in a business venture called "A World of Friends."

In the most recent elections in the Palestinian territory, Carter rushed to the team to serve as an election observer, hoping to get a little more time in the limelight from the liberal media that loves to promote his "Blame America First" mentality.

Just as he had praised the electoral process that Hugo Chavez had manipulated to achieve power in Venezuela, Carter heralded the Palestinian elections that brought to power the terrorist group, Hamas, as a model for others to follow.

Hamas has called for a nuclear strike against Israel that would wipe it off the map. Despite the fact that they are the most violent and deadly of the Palestinian terrorist groups, they nonetheless have no greater ally or spokesperson in the United States than Jimmy Carter.

Carter's empathy with Palestinian terrorists knows no bounds. Upon the death of PLO terrorist Yasser Arafat, Carter issued a statement glorifying Arafat's bloody reign and taking yet another cheap shot against his own American government:


A powerful human symbol and forceful advocate, Palestinians united behind him in their pursuit of a homeland. While he provided indispensable leadership to a revolutionary movement and was instrumental in forging a peace agreement with Israel in 1993, he was excluded from the negotiating role in more recent years.


Jimmy Carter needs to be stopped

The friends of the United States and her people are not Islamic terrorists. We are not well served if the goals pursued by Yasser Arafat and Hamas are successfully implemented.

Jimmy Carter's actions drove a stake into our national security objectives by allowing the rise of Islamofacist regimes in the Middle East.

Yet, time and again, Jimmy Carter has turned his aw-shucks smile onto the world stage to lobby on behalf of those who mean America harm. He excuses the violent acts of terrorist groups and their leaders, and he feels comfortable making personal friendships with the agents of terrorist groups who have the blood of Americans on their hands.

Jimmy Carter is dishonoring our troops by speaking out against their missions in the war on terrorism. He has viciously criticized the actions of our greatest ally in the Middle East, Israel.

Well, no longer.

Today, the Censure Carter Committee, an organization I lead, will debut a national TV advertising campaign calling upon the Congress of the United States to issue a resolution of censure against Jimmy Carter.

Please, join with tens of thousands of other Americans who have called upon Congress to censure Jimmy Carter.

Let us have Congress go on record so that leaders around the world can know that Jimmy Carter does not represent our views when he undermines American foreign policy interests.

Sign the Censure Carter petition and help us stop Jimmy Carter before he does any more harm to America's national security interests.




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Just a little bitty sample. All of us already know this, a much harder question would be: When does he ever speak well of America when abroad, now that would be a tough one.

He's a joke, a bad one.
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Re: Jimmy Carter: I'm "Probably Superior" To Other Former Presidents
« Reply #54 on: September 23, 2010, 06:18:26 PM »
Yes he is very busy traveling around the World telling everyone how bad America is.

Did he? What did he say?

Just a little piece!

Jimmy Carter's Middle East mess

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Posted: May 05, 2006
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By Melanie Morgan
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Just a little bitty sample. All of us already know this, a much harder question would be: When does he ever speak well of America when abroad, now that would be a tough one.

He's a joke, a bad one.

Alright, I read it. The assertion was made that Carter was 'very busy traveling around the World telling everyone how bad America is' and  I asked, What did he say?, and... the WND article was offered as an answer, but it falls short: it is an opinion piece, the author clearly dislikes Carter, but otherwise it is empty.

I was not a fan of Jimmy Carter; I never voted for him, I've done my fair share of mocking. But this WND piece is crap, and doesn't mean squat.

Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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Re: Jimmy Carter: I'm "Probably Superior" To Other Former Presidents
« Reply #55 on: September 24, 2010, 02:09:29 AM »
 TM says;
   Obama has not canceled all weapons deals as you impune...the F-35 system is going thru to israel, etc., etc....if we can only get them to pay for it. The Shah of Iran was universally hated in Iran for running a terror operation...he was armed to the hilt by us...but even still his time had come to go...so he went. The next best Iranian regime our intell could come up was the Ayatollah group and perfect for sustained warfare agianst Iracq...a warmakers blessing.  Same mentality cultured in Afghanistan to tie Soviet shoelaces together...but watch out for the blow back.

      

   TM;
   I did not say he has cancelled ALL weapons deals..he is selling $60 billion high grade military gear to the dictatorial regime of Saudi Arabia.  
        http://citynewspost.com/obama-set-to-sell-60-billion-of-military-hardware-to-saudi-arabia/851598/   
      It appears that most of the defense contracts he has cancelled were things to defend OUR OWN COUNTRY, such as our missle defense system and reinforcing the East European nations.. In the long run, NASA and it's space research & developments, has been a great bulwark of defense for the US...It is now officially a mission to praise and worship of Muslim accomplishments.
      The Shah was a dictator and surely had his warts, but was not dreaded by most Iranians other than those who were trying to usurp his throne. We know from history that no Muslim country in the mid east can be held together by 'hugs and kisses'..it does not seem to be in their nature or faith.
Don't even try to argue that point...just look at the open truth !

  You say the Shah was running a terrorist organization in Iran ! He was tough and ruthless but not as bad as  you say.
  Your implication seems to be that the present regime..installed by Carter & Co...is a great improvement!  :D ;D :P
  If the Shah was dealing harshly, he at least was confining those activities to Iran.  He wasn't furnishing IEDs to murder our fellow Americans with!
  One small fact you seem to overlook is that by Carter installing the nutsy Ayatollahs in power in Iran, he has provided those oil billion$$ to
 help further the Ayatollahs' dreams of a world wide calif..thanks Jimmie !!
  The glaring fact is that the progressives, led by B Hussein O. are doing their best to make sure we don't drill here for our own energy independence. They obviously would rather we send billion$$ to the middle east..hmmmm. Do you ever wonder why ?


  The present regime in Iran, with their mouthpiece..Macmoud Ima-nutjob...are now claiming in the UN, that people in the US administration planned and executed the destruction of the World Trade Center.  
   Can anyone here imagine that one who makes such an insane suggestion..could actually be considered sane ?

  The Shah may have been an SOB..but he was our SOB..and not a tool of the insane Ayatollahs...

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Re: Jimmy Carter: I'm "Probably Superior" To Other Former Presidents
« Reply #56 on: September 24, 2010, 02:15:23 AM »
 Your implication seems to be that the present regime..installed by Carter & Co...is a great improvement!  :D ;D :P

Hmmm... I never thought of Khomeini as having been installed by President Carter. Oh, let's cut straight to it: that's balony. One could reasonably say that the US kept the Pahlavi regime in power (see 1953) - but installed the Ayatollah???

Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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Re: Jimmy Carter: I'm "Probably Superior" To Other Former Presidents
« Reply #57 on: September 24, 2010, 02:34:05 AM »
  A bit of logic needed here;
     ..When an aggressor force wants to move into a space and you remove/disarm the only organized defensive entity, you are automatically installing the aggressor.

   common sense...
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Re: Jimmy Carter: I'm "Probably Superior" To Other Former Presidents
« Reply #58 on: September 24, 2010, 02:49:26 AM »
What I don't understand is why Yellowtail has never voted for any of the far left liberals he admires so much.
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Re: Jimmy Carter: I'm "Probably Superior" To Other Former Presidents
« Reply #59 on: September 24, 2010, 02:53:51 AM »
I'm sure old yellow would hve loved to vote for Jimma, he wasn't old enough.
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