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DAD APPOLOGIZES FOR DEFENDING DAUGHTER.
« on: September 21, 2010, 01:33:54 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100921/ap_on_re_us/us_angry_father_school_bus[/url]

Dad defended his disabled daughter from punks harassing her on the bus. Hope this works.  POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
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Re: DAD APPOLOGIZES FOR DEFENDING DAUGHTER.
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2010, 02:15:48 PM »
All the comments I've heard about him were positive and on his side. That being said, it looks and sounds good for him to apoligize for the way he handled himself on the bus for the lawyers and judges since he was charged.......And he gets more air time on TV and therefore more sympathy from the public and pundents.

Ticks me off everytime I think about a girl with MS being bullied the way she was. They should give out the names of the kids and their parents to shame them in front of everybody.

If they can press charges against the Dad, why can't they press charges against the kids and their parents? What they did was more harmful to another person than what he did!
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Re: DAD APPOLOGIZES FOR DEFENDING DAUGHTER.
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2010, 02:54:01 PM »
I am really not sure I would have reacted any differently.
I know we all stick our foot in our mouth on occasion--I also think it is OK in circustances like this.
I remember as teenager-- a bully about three years younger than me and almost as large was pushing a much younger boy around and laughing at him, slapping him on the head.
I walked up to him and slapped the snot from his nose. told him I was sticking up for the lad and how did it feel to have an older person slap him around.
He ran off crying.
Not anything I am proud of but it pissed me off.
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Re: DAD APPOLOGIZES FOR DEFENDING DAUGHTER.
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2010, 02:58:30 PM »
I am really not sure I would have reacted any differently.

...............Not anything I am proud of but it pissed me off.
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Re: DAD APPOLOGIZES FOR DEFENDING DAUGHTER.
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2010, 05:03:41 PM »
Being timid growing up wasn't easy as peer pressure was unmerciful.   I grew up forceful as a result.  I refuse to be a victim and will wade into Danger well over my head to aid any potential victim.  I can't stand some of the scars of my youth.  I fully support this Father in his quest.  Seems to me the Good Die Young and the wicked get away with murder.

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Re: DAD APPOLOGIZES FOR DEFENDING DAUGHTER.
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2010, 05:15:05 PM »
When I hear of something like this, I just wonder how grad pop would have handled it....
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2010, 05:22:40 PM »
Now lets see this from another side.  What if your child was on that bus (and did nothing) and this man was screaming at him/her.  Me, being a farther myself would have had a real problem with that.  Kids do bad things and should be punished.  An adult making threats to children is another.  To me the father made a bad situation worse.
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Re: DAD APPOLOGIZES FOR DEFENDING DAUGHTER.
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2010, 05:23:17 PM »
Be danged if I would ever apologize for defending my family members. If the act of defense is just that, I would say that daddio did good.

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Re: DAD APPOLOGIZES FOR DEFENDING DAUGHTER.
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2010, 06:00:16 PM »
Well , if any of you bleeding hearts wanna whine about innocent children being yelled at on the bus, keep in mind that if they didn't do any thing to the girl they weren't the focus of the yelling, and if they did not do anything to defend her they were just as culpable in my opinion.  And I got some cheese to go with that whine!

I'm sure his attorney told him to apologise.

I have a handicapped son, and I wouldn't stand for anyone abusing him. I may not board a bus unless I was witnessing the assault but you can bet your hand gun that I would have been at the school and the police station asap, with my attorney.
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Re: DAD APPOLOGIZES FOR DEFENDING DAUGHTER.
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2010, 06:16:05 PM »
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I may not board a bus unless I was witnessing the assault but you can bet your hand gun that I would have been at the school and the police station asap, with my attorney.



OS. You bet and in a heartbeat. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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Re: DAD APPOLOGIZES FOR DEFENDING DAUGHTER.
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2010, 06:17:18 PM »
I was in her place as a young 10 year old boy.
Not the MS part but was bullied by a seniour varsty football player who was 19 at the time.
He had been left back 2 years when he was in grade school.
The just of the story is he wanted my seat on the bus and I wasn't giving it up.
He beat me in the stomach and ribs and slammed my head against the bus window for almost 15 minutes while his buddies watched and cheered all the while keeping him hidden from the drivers view.
His words were you will cry.
Each time he hit me I would laugh.
I wanted to cry but I laughed which only made it worse on me.
I guess he got tired because he finely stopped.
I was still in the seat but what a price I paid.
I spent 2 weeks in the hospital with internal injurys and all he got was supended from the bus for the rest of the year.
That was in 1968.
In 1987 I got my payback.
I saw him late one night comming down the road in his restored ford pickup.
I had a used truck I had just bought so to this day he never knew who was in the truck comming towards him.
I waited till the last few yards and then put my lights on high beam and cut it over into his lane.
The last I saw was his beautiful truck go through the fence and into a very large tree.
A friend of mine told me a few weeks later about his misfortune and that he wasn't badly hurt but his truck was destroyed.
I always wanted to tell him who it was that ran him off the road that night but this way I got him back in my eyes and he never knew it was me.

Yes, paybacks are hell !!!


Now, was this father right to do what he did?
Maybe, maybe not.
A person has to do what they feel is right at the time.


For me, I did what I thought was right at that time!




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Re: DAD APPOLOGIZES FOR DEFENDING DAUGHTER.
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2010, 07:34:41 PM »
fellow was chasing my son and his buddy with a pickup out on the desert in Az. I shot the windshield out of his truck, he said he was just kidding i told him i was too or i'd shot the drivers side . I'm a lot easier to get along with in my old age.
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Re: DAD APPOLOGIZES FOR DEFENDING DAUGHTER.
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2010, 09:49:39 PM »
Now lets see this from another side.  What if your child was on that bus (and did nothing) and this man was screaming at him/her.  Me, being a farther myself would have had a real problem with that.  Kids do bad things and should be punished.  An adult making threats to children is another.  To me the father made a bad situation worse.


Seems like a teachable moment to me. Good excuse to talk to the kids about bullies, losing ones temper and some other stuff.
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Re: DAD APPOLOGIZES FOR DEFENDING DAUGHTER.
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2010, 03:57:46 AM »
Just read this thread, and the story is distressing.

I think the Dad showed some relative restraint. Why do I think that? I have two girls. My eldest has some hard challenges, and kids can tell. The social rules are very hard for her to navigate, but she does her best - but kids can tell, and they'll be cruel. It stings to watch.

If I saw her being abused/harassed, I may have done the same as that Dad. I might have had less restraint, depending upon circumstances. Were I to witness someone actually hurting her, there would be hell to pay, probably by me at the hands of the state (whom I detest) afterward. Someone being cruel to my little girl might be enough to drive me to do things that are not approved of. So, I'm empathetic with this Dad.

My girl isn't in school yet (just turned 10).. She's reading now, and making some great progress, and I love her. Kids who are cruel to disabled children need to be jerked back real hard; adults who permit it need to be counseled, and if they continue permit it, need to be brutalized.

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Re: DAD APPOLOGIZES FOR DEFENDING DAUGHTER.
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2010, 04:04:25 AM »
I agree with TM7, someone needed to step in and stop the harrasment. Sometimes loosing your temper is a good thing. I think he had every right to do what he did. If he had physically harmed anyone that would have been different, but he didn't, he just let them know that kind of behavior was not going to be tolerated. I'm sure I would have done the same and there wouldn't be any apology either.
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Re: DAD APPOLOGIZES FOR DEFENDING DAUGHTER.
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2010, 04:33:36 AM »
WOW. Looks like tm finally got something right. Good thing the guy wasn't Jewish. POWDERMAN.  :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: DAD APPOLOGIZES FOR DEFENDING DAUGHTER.
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2010, 04:57:05 AM »
I agree with TM7, someone needed to step in and stop the harrasment. Sometimes loosing your temper is a good thing. I think he had every right to do what he did. If he had physically harmed anyone that would have been different, but he didn't, he just let them know that kind of behavior was not going to be tolerated. I'm sure I would have done the same and there wouldn't be any apology either.
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Re: DAD APPOLOGIZES FOR DEFENDING DAUGHTER.
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2010, 05:59:48 AM »
Just heard this parent interviewed on talk radio.  He has no idea who were the offenders (or even if there really were any.)   The guy acted like an ass. He himself bullied and threatened other peoples' children without any knowledge whatsoever of wrongdoing.  He actually  threatened to kill  other peoples' children. He's no hero. 

Have you forgotten the Twana Brawley fraud?  Minorities are experts at this sort of thing...making false accusations for financial and political gain and fleecing dull witted white people. There will be some kind of financial pay off for this moron.  Most likely the money will come from weak minded, guilt ridden white idiots.

To all of you who defend this slob:  Get your facts straight!

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« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2010, 06:14:13 AM »
Have you forgotten the Twana Brawley fraud?  Minorities are experts at this sort of thing...making false accusations for financial and political gain and fleecing dull witted white people. There will be some kind of financial pay off for this moron.  Most likely the money will come from weak minded, guilt ridden white idiots.

To all of you who defend this slob:  Get your facts straight!

Hmmm.... sounds like someone is letting his racism color his view of the incident. Talk about dull witted... where is your mirror, lgm270?
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« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2010, 06:26:19 AM »
Looks like I am in the clear on this one, since I took neither side for his actions.



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« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2010, 06:28:05 AM »
News last night said the girl with ms was hospitolized and under suicide watch. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2010, 06:33:41 AM »
I am fed up with racism from angry blacks and whites whose only claim to fame is being white,
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« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2010, 07:18:01 AM »
News last night said the girl with ms was hospitolized and under suicide watch. POWDERMAN.  :o :o

Hospitalized and under suicide watch? 

Hospitalized for what?  Emotional distress? 

I smell a fraud here.  I've seen too many of these hoaxes.  A whole big blow up with TV, interviews, outpourings of sympathy...blah.blah...blah...Next, he will be on Oprah and Rev. Al will march with him and there will be a financial pay off somewhere down the line.  None of this fan fair is evidence.

I heard this guy interviewed live on the radio less two hours  ago and he admitted he has no idea who, if anyone, actually  harassed  his daughter.   There is  no evidence of any wrong doing and no perpetrator identified.       This idiot stormed on to a school bus and threatened to kill other peoples' children and now he admits he has absolutely  no knowledge of  any facts or identities. 

Since when do responsible gun people defend making death threats against other peoples' children based on no evidence?  The victims here are the children whom he threatened to kill, not his daughter whose allegations are unsupported by any evidence whatsoever.

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« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2010, 07:21:33 AM »
Have you forgotten the Twana Brawley fraud?  Minorities are experts at this sort of thing...making false accusations for financial and political gain and fleecing dull witted white people. There will be some kind of financial pay off for this moron.  Most likely the money will come from weak minded, guilt ridden white idiots.

To all of you who defend this slob:  Get your facts straight!

Hmmm.... sounds like someone is letting his racism color his view of the incident. Talk about dull witted... where is your mirror, lgm270?

I remember you.  You're the guy who thinks it's OK for  illegal alien  Mexicans to take  jobs from other Americans as long as they don't  take your job.   Other Americans can go to Hell as long as you get to keep your job.   

Your  treachery to fellow Americans speaks for itself.   

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« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2010, 07:34:56 AM »
I remember you.  You're the guy who thinks it's OK for  illegal alien  Mexicans to take  jobs from other Americans as long as they don't  take your job.   Other Americans can go to Hell as long as you get to keep your job.  

Your  treachery to fellow Americans speaks for itself.  

No, that's somebody else - I'm the guy that calls out the internet tough guys who like to stir up racial/religious strife as part of their politics... and also those bozos who demonize their fellow citizens over political qustions. And the nutballs who strut around talking about shooting brown people and muzzies. I sometime dont' roll over and let their BS pass, that brings out all kinds of indignant fulminatin' in them - yep, that's me.

maybe now you can keep it straight.
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« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2010, 07:45:04 AM »
270. I don't know why she was in the hospitol, news didn't say. POWDERMAN.  ??? ???
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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Re: DAD APPOLOGIZES FOR DEFENDING DAUGHTER.
« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2010, 10:27:23 AM »
  long and short of it is...bullies are something else.  and i hate them.   i told my boys that if i EVER get a knock on the door, and someone tells me they have been bullied by one of my kids, that they @$$whupping they would get would be of biblical proportions.   and they know i am not kidding.  
  my youngest is autistic.  a few years back we had to move, and they switched schools.  long story short, some older kids took to bullying my oldest boy.  he is a very sweet kid who would rather get beat up than hurt anyone.   so they pushed and pushed, and everyday i would talk to the teachers and point out what was happening.   and the next day, it was more of the same.   this went on for weeks.  i told him he had every right to stand up for himself, but his response was that he had promised Jesus he wouldnt fight.  i told him Jesus doesnt expect you to take daily beatings and he wouldnt mind you sticking up for yourself.  still, myron had made his choice and i respect that.  
   one day, after picking on the elder son, the group of 4 4th grade boys decides they were going to have fun with his brother.   so they went over to him and took his ball away.  he tried to innocently take it back, and one of them pushed him (he was in kindergarden).  
   now i pause here to tell you about gabriel's personality.... he is every bit as sweet as his older brother; but he does NOT share his brother's views on violence.  and, gabriel is RIPPED.  even at his young age, he hs not an ounce of fat and he is strong as hell for his size.  and, we named him 'gabriel' after God's angel, the one he would send when there was hell to pay; not knowing how aptly it would fit him.
   so after they push him, let's just say a can was opened, and four 4th graders got whipped by a kindergarden kid....badly.    i get to school, and they had GABRIEL in time out sitting against the wall.  the teachers decend on me, all serious, about the 'incident'.  they tell me gab beat up some kids.  i was concerned, and asked "younger kids?"   and they said no, older kids.   at this point the lightbulb went off in my head.    i called his brother over, and told him to tell me the truth of what happened.  out it comes...so i called gab over and asked him what happened.  he was on the verge of tears, afraid of what was about to happen as i am a very strick father.   so i let him talk, and when he was done i asked him if he hit them first.  he said no, they did.  i then asked him if he wanted to go straight to dairy queen and have ice cream for supper.  he thinks it is a trick, but answered honestly...."yes."    
   of course the teachers were appauled at my response, i took one step forward, cleared my throat and told them what it was.  "everyday it is the same thing.  everyday i talk to you all about it.  everyday, it happens again."   i turned to gabriel and told him next time, break some bones.   there was NEVER a problem again.    and, he ate two of his favorite ice creams.    ;D     
****in fact, my avatar is a picture of him after he finished his second one, taken that very day!!!****

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Re: DAD APPOLOGIZES FOR DEFENDING DAUGHTER.
« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2010, 10:41:56 AM »
That has got to be one of my favorite stories of all time.
If I have any more children, and if it's a boy, I'm gonna name him after your son.
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Re: DAD APPOLOGIZES FOR DEFENDING DAUGHTER.
« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2010, 11:18:37 AM »
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****in fact, my avatar is a picture of him after he finished his second one, taken that very day!!!****

GREAT story, thanks for telling it!

Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.