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Offline Conan The Librarian

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You are worth less to your employer today
« on: September 23, 2010, 04:31:46 PM »
The insurance laws that went into effect today suddenly make you less valuable to your employer. Congratulations.

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Re: You are worth less to your employer today
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2010, 04:37:13 PM »
It may be semantics, but I would say you are worth the same... but are more expensive to keep.  You are generally the same amount of intelligent, talented, strong, friendly, (the things that make you functional at work), etc... but the cost to maintain you has gone up.

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Re: You are worth less to your employer today
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2010, 04:42:57 PM »
But didn't our business competitor's costs go up about the same?
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Re: You are worth less to your employer today
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2010, 04:49:18 PM »
They did, but they saw it coming and fired 1800 employees first. I noticed also in today's news that we have yet another "unexpected" increase in unemployment. We sure have a lot of unexpected increases in unemployment lately. Maybe we should just expect them.

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Re: You are worth less to your employer today
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2010, 05:09:35 PM »
what you will see is more lay offs and more over time for the ones left wages are alot cheaper  that paying benefits

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Re: You are worth less to your employer today
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2010, 05:38:23 PM »
Those that know, predicted that this new health care will ultimately force free enterprise out of the health care business and make it solely government sponsored and operated. I really think it was the goal from the getgo. 
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Re: You are worth less to your employer today
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2010, 05:58:46 PM »
The employees where I work became less valuble late last year. They laid off most of them permanently and the ones that got to stay got a 2.00 per hr, or more, pay cut. Lost all overtime. Lost all vacation and holiday pay. Big reduction in health benefits with bigger copays and deductables. Seniority means nothing. Most of the ones that are left are pretty much part-time employees never knowing how much they will work from one week to the next.  And if they don't like it, tuff, because there is a hundred guys that want to take your place and they have no where else to go anyway. And the bosses remind you of it all the time with their attitude and treatment. Oh, and did I mention, they cheat them out of their prevailing wage on government funded jobs and just pay them reduced custom wages. That calculates into about a 10.00 per hr difference in wages. This company takes advantage of the bad situation and their employees.
The issues at this company are mostly lack of work and greedy employer. Some wonder if there will be a company next year.
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Re: You are worth less to your employer today
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2010, 06:15:36 PM »
Lets keep driving business out of the US, who needs those greedy companies anyway.  We should all just work for the government, we can double our pay and benefits over what we can get in the private sector.  God knows that people who make over $250,000 don't need that much money.  We should just take it all, and pay for benefits for the poor and needy.  The only reason they are (poor and needy) is because of the evil of capitalism.  From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
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Re: You are worth less to your employer today
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2010, 06:22:38 PM »
Lets keep driving business out of the US, who needs those greedy companies anyway.  We should all just work for the government, we can double our pay and benefits over what we can get in the private sector.  God knows that people who make over $250,000 don't need that much money.  We should just take it all, and pay for benefits for the poor and needy.  The only reason they are (poor and needy) is because of the evil of capitalism.  From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
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