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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2010, 01:41:32 PM »
No attempt to lead the heard or be herded, forced redistribution of wealth through "progressive" tax rates or any other method to redistribute by force has been proven as a failure every time it's tried in the long term & in lessor resilient economies inthe short term. We can watch it unfold & talk about it in a couple of years if we still have an internet.
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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2010, 05:11:22 AM »
No attempt to lead the heard or be herded, forced redistribution of wealth through "progressive" tax rates or any other method to redistribute by force has been proven as a failure every time it's tried in the long term & in lessor resilient economies inthe short term. We can watch it unfold & talk about it in a couple of years if we still have an internet.

Taxation is income redistribution...nothing more--nothing less. The business world is income redistribution as well. That is the history of human economic affairs. 50 years of taxation facilitating income consolidation at the top has now resulted in the common American having less real income in the last 60 years or more.
...It now takes 2 incomes to own and maintain a house
...Americans are working longer and harder than ever...those employed that is
...middle class near extinction
...foreign wars best bet industry for America.. ::)
...Medical expenses are now thru the roof and rising
...Debt is the only recourse for emergency expenses and even daily expenses
...Higher education = life long debt
...Personal older age nest eggs are now at and all time low or non-existant
...UNemployment in the USA now at an all time high..so much for 'the rich create jobs theory'
...real inflation and whipsawing interest rates are accepted as normal enslave humanity


I believe you are confusing the 'wealth of the production class' with the wealth of the 'leisure class'...too little of the former and too much of the latter at this juncture. Flat tax is another leisure class dream!!  See Thorsten Velben's "Theory of the Leisure Class".  This logjam needs breaking up...and there are two ways to do it... correct taxation and economic policy OR violent revolution by the masses....history proves this to be the choice. Your choice...worship the wealth class or facilitate humanity at large.



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They may be your 2 choices, not mine. I know several folks who have had the good fortune of becoming wealthy from a low income beginning. Other rich people were NOT the obstacle in getting there, but a restrictive & robbing thru high taxation gov. was the obstacle, was & is & in the near future will be the wealth killer for anyone who tries, it will be time to just blend in as is done in any Socialist Society, shown over & over again.
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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2010, 08:23:54 AM »
Not exactly my 2 choices.....history's choices......

Are your friends now leisure class or working wealthy producers....?? If they were wealthy producers the government was a hindrance indeed at times....if wealthy leisure elite government is their friend. Tax codes helped me gain a modicum of assests once understood....good accountants can help....but now system imploding and due for a reset. Hope you're ready for the big sucking noise.. ;) Imagine business' too big to allow to fail... ::)  

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Yes, working wealthy. And for me personally, not being wealthy but a good income, the primary hindrance is the govt.


I am aware of the positions that you discuss, the difference is & BTW irrefuteable from your responses & mine
over the years is that you look at Govt. through your preferred method of taxation to solve these issues, I trust in lessor Govt. to solve them, Taxation & the whole package, plain & simple.
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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2010, 10:01:38 AM »
nomosendero....I've been private sector my whole life....no governmnet jobs for me. Made payroll for employees too. Never made a living off another man's taxes. I've payed plenty of taxes and avoided some too....probably payed lots more than I should have and for things I don't agree with,,,mostly BECAUSE a group of people ESCAPE paying taxes entirely or fairly.  If they avoid taxes this data does not show up in IRS stats. Your problem is some people avoid taxes so you pay more...the same people you want to give even a bigger break called the Flat Tax. How they get people to pay for their own demise is beyond me.


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Yes, you have told me that before & it is good that you have done these things. I remembered that & because of that I was not in reference to the Govt. taking care of your own problems, but it seems you believe the Govt. is the right avenue to handle these folks who dodge everything, but the Progressive tax rate hits those who are currently paying & the dodgers can still dodge. Get rid of Cap. gains & anyway to legally avoid taxes & you nail some who are building a business & need the breaks. The cheaters will be there & last I heard the drug dealers have a hard time showing their income. Getting rid of tax exclusions & having a more progressive rate will merely drive us into Socialism faster than we are currently going, which is going fast enough now. And the George Soros types will be there & in Socialist gov. you will have a few extemely wealthy with Gov ties, just the way it goes, I hate to see opportunity taken from all in a feable attempt to get to them.
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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2010, 05:40:32 PM »
nomosendero....I've been private sector my whole life....no governmnet jobs for me. Made payroll for employees too. Never made a living off another man's taxes. I've payed plenty of taxes and avoided some too....probably payed lots more than I should have and for things I don't agree with,,,mostly BECAUSE a group of people ESCAPE paying taxes entirely or fairly.  If they avoid taxes this data does not show up in IRS stats. Your problem is some people avoid taxes so you pay more...the same people you want to give even a bigger break called the Flat Tax. How they get people to pay for their own demise is beyond me.
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TM if I remember correctly you at one time claimed to have worked for the goverment as a non military fellow over in Viet Nam. Of course I could be mistaken, but maybe I'll have to go back through your posts.
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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2010, 06:44:28 AM »
Describe your president.


Describe you military.
Describe your immigration policies.
Describe your social services.
Describe your education plan.
Describe your taxation plan.
Describe your economy.
Describe your banking/business regulations.
What laws do you want to see removed/added?
Describe your foreign policy.
Describe your trade policies.
Anything else that you think relates.




President: Respect for Constitution and separation of powers. Power limited to exercise of executive power under the Constitution.  The President does not "run the country" and is not an  economic planner.  The president is a representative of  the American people, not "immigrants" and other countries.


Military:  Volunteer force, well trained, educated  and well paid.   Military designed for national defense, not for running worldwide imperialist empire.  Special emphasis on securing American borders, not borders of Iraq, South Korea, etc.

Immigration policies:  Moratorium on all immigration. After that, reform immigration laws to prohibit all non-white immigration and all Muslim immigration.   Multi-racial, multi-cultural societies are simply suicidal. They're inherently unstable and dangerous.  Quarreling factions are fatal to healthy unified  country.  Multi-culturalism is suicide. If their third world, non-white "culture" was so wonderful, they would not have to run away from it  for a "better life" in the white, European USA.  Third world primitives are not capable of creating or maintaining the kind of advanced civilization achieved by European Americans. European Americans should not be forced to subsidize third world hordes and domesticate them at tax payer expense.  Militarize the borders of the US and shoot to kill invaders.    Pass a "Illegal Alien Removal Act" and "Muslim Removal Act" to round up and expel all illegal hispanics, Somalis, Chinese, etc., and remove all Muslims, whether legal or not.  Islam is a criminal conspiracy more akin to organized crime than religion and Muslims should not be allowed to subvert America by wrapping themselves in the flag.   IF they don't go peaceably, shoot them.

Social Services:  Established at state level, not federal level.

Education:  Established, if at all, at state level. No federal involvement in Education. Abolish Dept. of Education.  No tax payer funded  Black studies, Chicano Studies, Women's Studies, Gay Studies, Transgendered Studies,  Holocaust Studies, etc.   I would support Federally funded research such as space program, and race neutral physical scientific issues such as fission, super collider, etc. These provide technological bases for economic development and benefit the entire country.


 Taxation:
 No federal income tax.  Excise and tariffs only federal taxes.  States funded by state taxes.  No social engineering with federal tax laws.  

Economy:  Private property, free exchange, right of contract.  

Banking Business regulations:  Abolish Federal Reserve and restore Congressional power to regulate the value of money.  I would legalize Gold Clauses in contracts and encourage competing currencies to keep the government honest in its management of money and to provide alternative for people to protect their assets.  

Foreign Policy:  Non-intervention in foreign quarrels and disputes such as  Spanish American War,  WW1, WW2.  The Cold War was a continuation of WW2, which would have remained a limited conflict in Europe if FDR had not conspired to get us involved and to expand a local dispute into a global war. The current wars in the middle east are totally unnecessary.  War is the health of the state and the source of a tremendous growth of state power.  Bring troops home from Europe, S. Korea.   No  entangling alliances.    No more foreign aid, especially for Israel.  No more fighting wars for Israel.

Trade Policies:  Bring back  the "American System" as  established by US Constitution, Henry Clay, Daniel Webster, Lincoln, etc.   US jobs for US workers.  No immigration of workers into the US.  Protective economic measures.  Free trade has caused the exportation of America's physical economy to slave labor countries such as China, etc.,   and impovrishment of US working class.  America exists for benefit of American people, not third world immigrants seeking a "better life" by taking American jobs, housing, education, etc. and transforming American communities into 3d world slums.  


Other changes:


(1) Amend constitution to expressly state that Right to Keep and Bear Arms is an individual right;

(2)   Add the following amendment to the US Constitution: "The right of freedom of association shall not be infringed."  

   Abolish all civil rights laws that violate the right of freedom of association, including  Civil Rights Act of 1964, housing laws,  employment laws, etc.  No affirmative action.  Equal rights for white people so that white people can have their own "communities", i.e. race based organizations, race based neighborhoods, schools, etc.  If blacks and Mexicans can have their own communities, caucuses and tax payer funded racial organizations, it's a denial of equal protection of law to deny those rights to white people.  First  class citizenship restored to white people.  

(3)  Repeal the 14th Amendment.

(4)  Repeal the 17th Amendment (direct election of US Senators).  


(5) Abolish unnecessary Federal bureaucracy, including,  Dept. of Education, Dept. of Labor, Dept. of Energy, and probably others.  

(6)  Deal with the doctrine of "Judicial 'Review" i.e., the purported right of the federal judiciary to determine what is or is not constitutional. This power was not conferred by the US Constitution, but was simply seized by the US Supreme Court in Marbury v. Madison.  This has tipped the  balance of power   far too much in favor of the judiciary.   Pat Buchanan recommended giving Congress the power to overrturn Supreme Court decisions.  Interesting idea.  Needs more thought.

(7)  Repeal Voting Rights Acts.  These are state issues.

(8)  Get rid of hate crimes laws.  

 (9)  No tax payer funded benefits for First Lady except Secret Service protection.  Sick and tired of these presidential wives enjoying tax payer funded "staffs" and other perks and then lecturing us about how we raise our kids, eat, etc.   This is a Republic, not a monarchy and no one should acquire tax payer funded benefits or political power by virtue of family relationship to head of state or other government official.  First Lady is not queen, but only a citizen and should be restored to that status.

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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2010, 07:18:37 AM »

Last I heard broke people aren't hiring.

Thats not true. The Federal Government is hiring.
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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2010, 09:40:15 AM »
IGM270,
I am going to take a wild guess here but you probably don't consider yourself racist?
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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2010, 09:59:54 AM »
IGM270,
I am going to take a wild guess here but you probably don't consider yourself racist?
GuzziJohn

They never do.  Responses like that highlights the point though.  

Question: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?

Answer: Completely and utterly messed up.  Messed up in very different ways than the far left guys in charge now have goofed up the country, but messed up all the same.  As a matter of fact, that particular scenario if it came to pass (thankfully it won't - America - most of it anyways - isn't that bad off) would be a lot worse than what we have now.

PARTICULARLY with all the "non-white" crap.  Just from a fairness standpoint, if we're going to start racially restricting who can come to the country, we ALL should pack our bags and head on back to where we can from and leave the country to the people of the native tribes that existed here before colonization.  If any one race belongs here above all others, it's THEM, not us.  Not that I think that's a good idea mind you, but if you're going to enact stupid laws you might as well put some semblance of sanity into them.  

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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2010, 10:35:16 AM »
guzzijohn, I read, and reread IGM270's post, and am trying to see the racist slant. Guess I must be one too. If your refering to the part where he would lke to see the federal funding for blacks,hispanics,and other minorities stopped, wonder how loud the voice would be, if the fed's did a ''white's only'' funding. HMM, bet ol' Jesse J, and brother Al would pop a cork over that one. It's time this country stopped funding for anything minority related. Amazing how many people that are in the minority, made something of themselve's, just by getting off their butt and working for it. gypsyman
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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2010, 10:37:50 AM »
guzzijohn, I read, and reread IGM270's post, and am trying to see the racist slant. Guess I must be one too.

gypsyman: I'm going to assume that you just missed it.  

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Moratorium on all immigration. After that, reform immigration laws to prohibit all non-white immigration and all Muslim immigration.   Multi-racial, multi-cultural societies are simply suicidal. They're inherently unstable and dangerous.  Quarreling factions are fatal to healthy unified  country.  Multi-culturalism is suicide. If their third world, non-white "culture" was so wonderful, they would not have to run away from it  for a "better life" in the white, European USA.  Third world primitives are not capable of creating or maintaining the kind of advanced civilization achieved by European Americans. European Americans should not be forced to subsidize third world hordes and domesticate them at tax payer expense.  Militarize the borders of the US and shoot to kill invaders.

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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2010, 10:43:05 AM »
IGM270,
I am going to take a wild guess here but you probably don't consider yourself racist?
GuzziJohn

They never do.  Responses like that highlights the point though.  

Question: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?

Answer: Completely and utterly messed up.  Messed up in very different ways than the far left guys in charge now have goofed up the country, but messed up all the same.  As a matter of fact, that particular scenario if it came to pass (thankfully it won't - America - most of it anyways - isn't that bad off) would be a lot worse than what we have now.

PARTICULARLY with all the "non-white" crap.  Just from a fairness standpoint, if we're going to start racially restricting who can come to the country, we ALL should pack our bags and head on back to where we can from and leave the country to the people of the native tribes that existed here before colonization.  If any one race belongs here above all others, it's THEM, not us.  Not that I think that's a good idea mind you, but if you're going to enact stupid laws you might as well put some semblance of sanity into them.  

Between 1925 and 1965 American immigration laws did restrict immigration on racial lines.  It was only after the Immigration act of 1965 that non-white hordes were allowed to flood in.     What has been the result? White people have been driven out of almost every major city, except for the tiny groups of extremely wealthy who live in exclusive gated communities and send their kids to exclu$ive (racially segregated)  private schools.

White people have become indentured servants to non-white "immigrants"  who suck up tax payer funded public services in those inner cities that have become "no-go zones" for white people.  Whites are forced to pay for public education systems their kids can't attend, public hospitals for which they can't qualify, public transit that is too dangerous for them to use, and it goes on and on.  

Non-white immigration has bankrupted California, destroyed its public schools, and transformed hundreds of  formerly white communities into filthy stinking Mexican slums.   If you don't believe this, visit Southern California sometime.

White people limit the size of their families because, unlike illegal alien non-whites, they can't get tax free incomes and tax payer funded child support from the government at the same time like non-white illegal aliens and other welfare cheats. Illegal aliens are supposedly banned from getting welfare, but their US born offspring are US citizens and the kids get tax payer funded  child support regardless of how much their  parents earn.  Illegal aliens work off the books for cash, cheat on taxes, and on top of that get their offspring (often with multiple women)  supported by white taxpayers!  Why would anyone think this kind of destruction of American civilization  is a good thing?    

(Interestingly enough, no one thinks racial segregation is bad when non-whites want it, but only when whites want to have clean, decent schools and communities.)

As far as the argument about the Indians being here first,  Indians are not going to give up their electricity, indoor plumbing, television, automobiles  and gambling casinos in order to kick out the white man who invented those modern conveniences upon which they are now  dependent.  Indians know where their bread is buttered and they do much better by milking dull witted, guilt ridden whites in Indian gambling casinos than they would  if whites disappeared  and they had to go back to hunting buffalo to survive.

White people are gradually waking up and  openly resisting their enslavement and dispossession.    Only a handful have mustered the courage to speak out openly, but our numbers are growing. Get used to it!





  

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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2010, 10:47:16 AM »
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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2010, 11:11:12 AM »
IGM270,
After your last post I have no doubt that you are racist. Not that I really doubted it before. Anyone that thinks IGM270's posts do not have racist statements are totally blind and scary.
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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2010, 11:13:14 AM »
White people are gradually waking up and  openly resisting their enslavement and dispossession.    Only a handful have mustered the courage to speak out openly, but our numbers are growing. Get used to it!

Let me get this straight: in the last 300 years we've done away with slavery.  Done away with racial segregation.  Passed legislation to promote the equality of all people regardless of race.  The last archaic bit of legislation prohibition interracial marriage was swept away just over 10 years ago.  We've all but stamped out the scourge of racism in this country . . . and you're claiming that your "numbers are growing"?  Pardon me while I go out back and laugh my butt off.

You're a fringe minority.  A relic of times thankfully long past.  Freedom of speech protects your right to make your ideas known, but the right to say something doesn't guarantee the right for it to make any sense.

Just as a note though.  The majority of people on this board are good-hearted well meaning people.  We might not agree on everything, but that's life.  You rarely agree on everything with anybody - even close friends.  

I'm going to cue you in a problem though, and one that has cost Republicans elections before, and will continue to do so: it was simply asked what the far right would do with the country if they had control.  This thread hasn't broken 2 pages yet.  Already you have posts promoting state-sponsored racism as well as widespread public executions.  Now, MOST Republicans don't necessarily think that way.  Heck most of the posts in this thread haven't advocated that.  But, there's a very loud minority promoting and encouraging that stereotype of the ignorant bloodthirsty racist.  The people encouraging that stereotype for the rest of you are hurting your cause at the voting booths, and in no small way.

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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #45 on: October 06, 2010, 11:23:38 AM »
There is a lot of truth to what Igm270 has said.  I had a physical science professor in college, English, been here 9 years, married to an American, and had a 6 year old son.  He has been trying to get citizenship ever since he was married 9 years previous.  We had a limit of how many Europeans could come here, but no limit on 3rd world people.  This was back in the 70's.  However as whites became upwardly mobile with increases in standard of living, minorities also became upwardly mobile and moved into the old white neighborhoods.  This wasn't a problem until the "Great Society" programs of welfare that Johnson implemented.  In the early 60's Blacks were as upwardly mobile as whites, just a step behind.  With the way the government delt out the welfare money, they created a dependent class of unmarried people.  On the Discovery Channel, they said of the "Hippies", that they moved into the black neighborhoods about the same time because it was cheaper to live, and got the young blacks on drugs, free sex, handouts, welfare, etc.  Older blacks complained that the hippies helped destroy their neighborhoods and society.  They helped create a dependent matriarchal society.  

I do think we need to close the borders to illegals of all races.  We also need to give poor married families more help than single parents.  If a family is together, it helps raise kids better with both parents there.  This is well documented with phycologists.  Teen unwed mothers need to be told they should stay home with their parents to get any help.  They shouldn't be taken out of their parents home, given a unit in a housing project, food stamps, money for their power and gas bills, and welfare money.  At least make those under 18 or 21 stay with their parents unless there are extenuating circumstances like abuse.  At least it would save my tax money on the housing and utility costs.  Also allow more Europeans easier immigration, especially those who are already skilled and trained. 

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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #46 on: October 06, 2010, 11:36:00 AM »
There is a lot of truth to what Igm270 has said.  I had a physical science professor in college, English, been here 9 years, married to an American, and had a 6 year old son.  He has been trying to get citizenship ever since he was married 9 years previous.  We had a limit of how many Europeans could come here, but no limit on 3rd world people.  This was back in the 70's.  However as whites became upwardly mobile with increases in standard of living, minorities also became upwardly mobile and moved into the old white neighborhoods.  This wasn't a problem until the "Great Society" programs of welfare that Johnson implemented.  In the early 60's Blacks were as upwardly mobile as whites, just a step behind.  With the way the government delt out the welfare money, they created a dependent class of unmarried people.  On the Discovery Channel, they said of the "Hippies", that they moved into the black neighborhoods about the same time because it was cheaper to live, and got the young blacks on drugs, free sex, handouts, welfare, etc.  Older blacks complained that the hippies helped destroy their neighborhoods and society.  They helped create a dependent matriarchal society. 

There's truth in what YOU said.  Not much truth in what he said.  Welfare - to anyone - is a mistake that needs to be rectified.  I've seen people of all races doing nothing and hanging out on welfare.   I went to college with several black friends who are now doing well.  I have a friend now of Mexican descent who is a Mechanical engineer.  We've also went through the prior thread when this same issue came up that pointed out that there were Mexican/Blank/Pink/Purple scientists, astronauts, etc. (just about any career you can imagine). 

If you want to talk about reforming welfare and such, believe me I'm all ears. Elimination of hate crime laws or affirmative action (which are both forms of racism themselves), then you bet.  THAT is moving forward.  That is making things better.  When the best you can muster though is that you are being "pushed out" of a neighborhood because you're don't want to be around other races, then tough luck.  Get over your prejudice, or get out.  If Europe and it's culture was so great, why'd your ancestors come over here?  Head on back if it was so great.

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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #47 on: October 06, 2010, 11:41:22 AM »
White people are gradually waking up and  openly resisting their enslavement and dispossession.    Only a handful have mustered the courage to speak out openly, but our numbers are growing. Get used to it!

Let me get this straight: in the last 300 years we've done away with slavery.  Done away with racial segregation.  Passed legislation to promote the equality of all people regardless of race.  The last archaic bit of legislation prohibition interracial marriage was swept away just over 10 years ago.  We've all but stamped out the scourge of racism in this country . . . and you're claiming that your "numbers are growing"?  Pardon me while I go out back and laugh my butt off.

You're a fringe minority.  A relic of times thankfully long past.  Freedom of speech protects your right to make your ideas known, but the right to say something doesn't guarantee the right for it to make any sense.

Just as a note though.  The majority of people on this board are good-hearted well meaning people.  We might not agree on everything, but that's life.  You rarely agree on everything with anybody - even close friends.  

I'm going to cue you in a problem though, and one that has cost Republicans elections before, and will continue to do so: it was simply asked what the far right would do with the country if they had control.  This thread hasn't broken 2 pages yet.  Already you have posts promoting state-sponsored racism as well as widespread public executions.  Now, MOST Republicans don't necessarily think that way.  Heck most of the posts in this thread haven't advocated that.  But, there's a very loud minority promoting and encouraging that stereotype of the ignorant bloodthirsty racist.  The people encouraging that stereotype for the rest of you are hurting your cause at the voting booths, and in no small way.

The voting booth?   The flood of non-white third world immigration is dooming the GOP, not me.  Here in California the Democrats run everything.  How did the state that gave us Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon end up completely Democratic in just one generation?  Well  non-white immigration, that's how.  Non-white immigrants suck up tax funded public benefits.  Guess what:   THAT MEANS THEY VOTE DEMOCRAT BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE PARTY OF HIGH TAXES AND WELFARE!  The Democrats are also the party of gun control laws.  And even if  immigrants don't vote, they make life so Hellish that white people get the Hell out and Republican votes are driven down, even as Democrat votes are bolstered. That's what's happened in California.  The Democrats run the place  for that reason.  

What happens when the Democrats run the state?  Well, among higher taxes, more welfare, more environmental insanity, more civil rights laws for the "transgendered",  etc.,  you get California style gun control laws, that's what happens.  If you support hordes of non-white immigrants you better kiss your guns good bye because they will give the Democrats total control of your state and your gun rights will be gone.  

You should visit metropolitan Southern California some time and see how many Americans you see among the hordes of Mexicans.  Go to the Courts, Dept. of Motor Vehicles,  look at who's driving around on the streets and walking on the sidewalks, watch them stream out of public schools at the end of the day, look at who's standing in line at retail stores, and visit the post office and see how many postal workers speak English well enough that you don't have to repeat yourself when you buy stamps.   Los Angeles is the second largest city in America, but it has hardly any Americans and much of it is not even recognizably American.

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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #48 on: October 06, 2010, 11:55:01 AM »
The voting booth?   The flood of non-white third world immigration is dooming the GOP, not me.

Really?  Explain how in a country with an 80% white population a democrat carried 53% of the popular vote in the last presidential election?  If the entirety of the non-white population in this country had voted Democrat that STILL would have accounted for far less than half of the votes he received.

As stated in many other posts.  I'm a member of the Libertarian Party.  Both the Democrats and Republicans are wrong on many things, but not on EVERYTHING.  The Republican Party has a lot of good aspects to it.  Pro-2nd ammendment, limited government spending, etc.  Things that might otherwise convince some people to throw in their support.  I can guarantee you that racist parrots hoping to toss out everybody with a different skin color are doing no good for them.  I mean heck with that attitude it's no surprise that the minorities would flee to the other side.  What good is RKBA and fiscal responsibility if the people that want that also want to throw you out of the country?  

People with your attitudes - promoting them as the norm for the rest of the party - are literally tossing away a whole 20% of the potential vote - at a MINIMUM - along with the sizable percentage of whites who despise racism and also wont throw in their vote with a racist lot.

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« Reply #49 on: October 06, 2010, 12:35:35 PM »
lgm's "qualifier" aside, I am of the belief that he was trying to convey his dislike for things like hate crimes being rather one sided in context, affirmitive action programs ( I believe in advancement/employment of qualified individuals. Not by qualifying ethninicity).Special rights for any group regarding color,nationality,etc,like gay rights etc. Life is a right given by God, to do well at it is an individual accomplishment.

I am quite positive that the native American indian has been over this rhetoric before.

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« Reply #50 on: October 06, 2010, 12:55:59 PM »
The voting booth?   The flood of non-white third world immigration is dooming the GOP, not me.

Really?  Explain how in a country with an 80% white population a democrat carried 53% of the popular vote in the last presidential election?  If the entirety of the non-white population in this country had voted Democrat that STILL would have accounted for far less than half of the votes he received.

As stated in many other posts.  I'm a member of the Libertarian Party.  Both the Democrats and Republicans are wrong on many things, but not on EVERYTHING.  The Republican Party has a lot of good aspects to it.  Pro-2nd ammendment, limited government spending, etc.  Things that might otherwise convince some people to throw in their support.  I can guarantee you that racist parrots hoping to toss out everybody with a different skin color are doing no good for them.  I mean heck with that attitude it's no surprise that the minorities would flee to the other side.  What good is RKBA and fiscal responsibility if the people that want that also want to throw you out of the country?  

People with your attitudes - promoting them as the norm for the rest of the party - are literally tossing away a whole 20% of the potential vote - at a MINIMUM - along with the sizable percentage of whites who despise racism and also wont throw in their vote with a racist lot.

You think America is 80% white?   When was the last time you visited a  big city?  1969?

Your statistics have no basis in reality. 

North Dakota may still be 80% white, but California is already majority non-white, which explains in substantial part why the Democrats control everything.     There are pockets of white communities, like beseiged  frontier outposts,  but all major urban areas are overwhelmingly Mexican  or in some cases, Asian.  Non-whites are virulently racist. They are loyal to their own kind and vote for their own kind and they openly brag about it.  That's why all Latino  communities are represented by latino city councilmen, latino mayors, latino congressmen, assemblymen, etc.   (Black communities unanimously elect black candidates, but they're not immigrants so outside the scope of this discourse.) Only white people regard it as "racist" to vote for white candidates.   When Hispanics vote for  Hispanic candidates, it's not racism but "ethnic pride."   

The gist of my  proposed immigration policy, which is  re-enacting  US  immigration laws of 1925-1965, referred to deporting and stopping  illegal immigrants. I did not advocate "tossing out" everyone with a different colored skin, as you falsely argue.  If you are not capable of refuting my argument, at least be honest enough to admit you can't refute it rather than falsely imputing to me positions I have not taken.

 My immigration policy would not apply to non-white, native born  Americans such as  African-Americans,, Hispanics, Japanese etc. Black Americans are suffering just as painfully from the third world invasion  as White Americans, perhaps more, because newly empowered Hispanics compete against Blacks  for coveted affirmative action positions and tax funded public benefits.  This creates the problem where the welfare state  pie is shrinking but with  more hands reaching  out for it.  Blacks are rapidly being  dethroned from their  privileged position as America's loudest complaining  and  most entitled minority by Hispanics, whose numbers are being bolstered by newly arrived  peasant hordes from Latin America.  Actually,  I predict that Blacks will return to an anti-immigrant GOP out of self preservation because their dwindling numbers relative to Hispanics will render them increasingly irrelevant to the Hispanic dominated Democrat Party. Obama may be the first black president, but if the burgeoning Hispanic voting block has anything to say about it he will be the last. Hispanics hate blacks. It is Mexican gang bangers who are shooting black children in Los Angeles, not dirty rotten white racists. 

How weird is all of this? An illegal alien Mexican who crossed the border last night automatically qualifies as an "historically oppressed minority" even though he lived his whole life in Mexico, a country governed by his own screwed up, dysfunctional  kind.  He gets  jump the border and then to leap frog over the head of  real  Americans  to  collect public benefits, scholarships, grants,  tuition, etc. are concerned.    We evil whites not only have to feel guilty about blacks, but we now have  to feel guilty about  poor Mexicans to whom we never did anything and whose offspring we are forced to subsidize with out taxes.  Is this fair?   

American's immigration policy has always been racially calibrated and the destruction of that traditional standard is at the root of the destruction of once proud American cities. If illegal alien Mexicans don't like us, they should stay in their own country where they make up the ethnic majority.  We don't need them, their third world culture, their  third world slums,  their third world IQ's, their  third world hygiene,  or their hordes of third world welfare consuming offspring. 

You can call me a racist all you like if it makes you feel more righteous, but Georgia, North Carolina,  Rhode Island, Utah, Ohio, Nebraska, Pennsylvania  and other states are considering punitive Arizona type laws to deal with  the scourge of illegal immigration.  The tide is turning against these savages and more people are thinking like me and fewer like you.  They're invading my country. I'm not invading theirs. 

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« Reply #51 on: October 06, 2010, 01:29:26 PM »

You think America is 80% white?   When was the last time you visited a  big city?  1969?

Your statistics have no basis in reality. 

I think you have that very, very backwards.  You see, rather than basing my numbers on anecdotal nonsense like "visits to a big city", I based my number on US Census data, which shows our population as 79.6% white.

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

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North Dakota may still be 80% white, but California is already majority non-white, which explains in substantial part why the Democrats control everything.

Also false.  California is 76.4% white.  Slightly lower than the national average, but still far from a non-majority.

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06000.html

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Non-whites are virulently racist. They are loyal to their own kind and vote for their own kind and they openly brag about it.

As do you, apparently.  It's no great revelation that there exist Hispanic racists, or Black racists, or racists of any race.  You're proving that for our race right here and now.  Demonstrating that you have counterparts in other races doesn't get me up in arms against them though.  That nonsensical logic only works as a rallying call for other racists.  I

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The gist of my  proposed immigration policy, which is  re-enacting  US  immigration laws of 1925-1965, referred to deporting and stopping  illegal immigrants. I did not advocate "tossing out" everyone with a different colored skin, as you falsely argue.  If you are not capable of refuting my argument, at least be honest enough to admit you can't refute it rather than falsely imputing to me positions I have not taken.

You've barely put forth an argument to refute.  Most of your conjecture is based on anecdotal non-sense such as "I saw a person of this and that race peeing on a highway" and how many people of a certain color you've seen in a particular neighborhood (as if their mere presence was somehow a negative).  In any event, no sane person can deny that any policy which restricts immigration (not to mention your advocating the repealing of the Civil Rights Act and Voting Right acts) is at it's core racist, and against non-white races.  Do you honestly expect to earn a vote when you're telling a group of people "Look, we can't throw you all out without chaos in the streets, but we're going to not let anymore of you in, because we don't like you."?

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My immigration policy would not apply to non-white, native born  Americans such as  African-Americans,, Hispanics, Japanese etc.

Well aren't you Mr. Fair and Square.  As long as they're born here they get to stay.  Of course their not entitled to the right to vote or equal treatment (BOTH of which you called for repeal), and we're not letting anymore in.  People let their farm animals stay.  That doesn't mean they're treating them like human beings.

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You can call me a racist all you like if it makes you feel more righteous, but Georgia, North Carolina,  Rhode Island, Utah, Ohio, Nebraska, Pennsylvania  and other states are considering punitive Arizona type laws to deal with  the scourge of illegal immigration.  The tide is turning against these savages and more people are thinking like me and fewer like you.  They're invading my country. I'm not invading theirs. 

There's no need to call out that which is mad clear by actions.  Illegal immigration and racism are separate issues.  It's quite likely that in the end those who are here will be granted amnesty in the end anyways, as part of immigration reform.  Get some REAL data - on opinions on racism, NOT illegal immigration, and I think you'll notice just such a small club you're waving the flag for.

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« Reply #52 on: October 06, 2010, 02:39:11 PM »
Describe your president. Strong leader that does not cow tow to forgien countries, understand the role of government is to provide a place for the market nto be the end all be all for each citizen.
Describe you military. Large enough to handle a two front war with the best training and equipment possible,  Understand that they are allowed to win the conflict, and see the destruction of our enemies.  After all if a bully attacks you you do not slap him and give him your lunch money.  You hit him over and over again so he and anyone else think twice about trying to attack you again. 
Describe your immigration policies. Enforcing the laws on the books- if deportation does not work, we need to send them farther.  Your arrested once send back to home country, twice send  then 10,000 miles from home and our country.  All aboard for flight to Iraq, China, afganistan, or France and let your home country fly you home to mommy.
Describe your social services. Why?  With out the socialism, our country actually works
Social Secururity would be a safety net not a pension plan.  Also it would be yours not th governments.  If you die you should be allowed to pass on your investment not have the government absorb it for people that did not pay in.

Describe your education plan. Teach reading, writting, computers, Math, history- not revised history, english literature, science- again real science not the phoney global warming crap, government, and economics
Describe your taxation plan. Easy,  no taxes for 4X the poverty rate and flat 7% above that.  The Flat tax gets rid of the social design of do this or that and you pay less and helps to keep rich, rich and the poor, poor.  But since the Entertainment industry thinks we do not pay enough then they are taxed at 65% flat tax.  Maybe that will be enough.
Describe your economy. Capitalism
Describe your banking/business regulations. Stupid people that were ellected thinking they know better than the people in the industry how to bank or do business is why we are having problems.  If it is legal, it is legal and let it go, if illegal then it is illegal ut allow the businesses do what they are best at doing.
What laws do you want to see removed/added? Mostly removed!
Describe your foreign policy. Promote Capitalism, do not back down from dictators and despots and show the rest of the world what freedom and capitalism can achieve
Describe your trade policies. Free trade - Personally I would not like to trade with slave states like China, Venezula, or Cuba but that is a personal choice and i should not subject my hatred for Socialism/ Communism on others
Anything else that you think relates.  A.Come up with 3,000 question test and randomly give each memer of congress 100 of the questions.  Ranging from Economics, math, science, American History, and the constitution.  They need to pass with a 90% or more to be sworn in and able to write bills and vote on bills.  They can be ellected but can be sworn in till they pass the random 100 question test.
B.  If congress wants to raise taxes then they loose from their budget an inverse amount.  Taxes go up by 10% then they loose 10% of thier budget for Staff, offices, phones, paper, pay, and transportation.
C.  They need to ballance the budget every year and assign a priority to each item on the budget.
D.  It used to be that people went into government jobs for the benefits and understood they would make 3/4 the pay of private sector equivelant.  Now Gov't has better benefits and 1.5X the pay of the Private sector equal.  Something wrong there.
E.  Anything Congress passes applies to them too.
F.  Any memeber of the US government only gets one pension for the last office held, not one from EACH office held.




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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #53 on: October 06, 2010, 02:50:31 PM »
Obama & all Lefties are really into that progressive way of doing things, "progressive" tax rates. Obummer like others wants to make it more progessive. We could call it the Employers Tax Of 2011.
Last I heard broke people aren't hiring.
Part of the problem is the terms like Progressive.  Sounds like they want Progress.... But NO
Progressive = one who Progresses the Socialist adgenda.
Liberal= Pure Big Government Socialist (remember the Nazi Party were Socialists, that saw Government as the answer and had scape goats too.  Do the words "Big .... as evil" and why we need to control, regulate or abolish it.)  Some how "Big Government" is never evil to them.
Centrist= In the middle between Socialist and communist.  Not between a liberal and a conservitive.
Right wing looney= Anyone that thinks bugets should be met, My freedoms end where yours begin, and that taxes should not exceed 25% of total income.  For ALL taxes.  Federal, State, Sales, Phone, Fee, assesments, Property and on and on of all the nickel and dimeing done to us.
Religous Right= anyone that attends church regularly and believes in God.  Unless you are a minority.

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« Reply #54 on: October 06, 2010, 03:25:45 PM »

You think America is 80% white?   When was the last time you visited a  big city?  1969?

Your statistics have no basis in reality.  

I think you have that very, very backwards.  You see, rather than basing my numbers on anecdotal nonsense like "visits to a big city", I based my number on US Census data, which shows our population as 79.6% white.

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

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North Dakota may still be 80% white, but California is already majority non-white, which explains in substantial part why the Democrats control everything.

Also false.  California is 76.4% white.  Slightly lower than the national average, but still far from a non-majority.

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06000.html

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Non-whites are virulently racist. They are loyal to their own kind and vote for their own kind and they openly brag about it.

As do you, apparently.  It's no great revelation that there exist Hispanic racists, or Black racists, or racists of any race.  You're proving that for our race right here and now.  Demonstrating that you have counterparts in other races doesn't get me up in arms against them though.  That nonsensical logic only works as a rallying call for other racists.  I

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The gist of my  proposed immigration policy, which is  re-enacting  US  immigration laws of 1925-1965, referred to deporting and stopping  illegal immigrants. I did not advocate "tossing out" everyone with a different colored skin, as you falsely argue.  If you are not capable of refuting my argument, at least be honest enough to admit you can't refute it rather than falsely imputing to me positions I have not taken.

You've barely put forth an argument to refute.  Most of your conjecture is based on anecdotal non-sense such as "I saw a person of this and that race peeing on a highway" and how many people of a certain color you've seen in a particular neighborhood (as if their mere presence was somehow a negative).  In any event, no sane person can deny that any policy which restricts immigration (not to mention your advocating the repealing of the Civil Rights Act and Voting Right acts) is at it's core racist, and against non-white races.  Do you honestly expect to earn a vote when you're telling a group of people "Look, we can't throw you all out without chaos in the streets, but we're going to not let anymore of you in, because we don't like you."?

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My immigration policy would not apply to non-white, native born  Americans such as  African-Americans,, Hispanics, Japanese etc.

Well aren't you Mr. Fair and Square.  As long as they're born here they get to stay.  Of course their not entitled to the right to vote or equal treatment (BOTH of which you called for repeal), and we're not letting anymore in.  People let their farm animals stay.  That doesn't mean they're treating them like human beings.

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You can call me a racist all you like if it makes you feel more righteous, but Georgia, North Carolina,  Rhode Island, Utah, Ohio, Nebraska, Pennsylvania  and other states are considering punitive Arizona type laws to deal with  the scourge of illegal immigration.  The tide is turning against these savages and more people are thinking like me and fewer like you.  They're invading my country. I'm not invading theirs.  

There's no need to call out that which is mad clear by actions.  Illegal immigration and racism are separate issues.  It's quite likely that in the end those who are here will be granted amnesty in the end anyways, as part of immigration reform.  Get some REAL data - on opinions on racism, NOT illegal immigration, and I think you'll notice just such a small club you're waving the flag for.

As far your numbers, I wish to God they were correct and that 80% of America was still  white, but I just don't believe it, anymore than I believe  much else the government says. The government hasn't told the truth about anything since the Spanish American  war.    If they define "white" as including Hispanics, it may be that 80% of the US population is "white." The FBI tried something like this to bolster the white crime rate:  They included Hispanics as "whites" even though they were clearly Mestizos and not Europeans.   I guess we need more white murderers and robbers so that the crime statistics won't reflect so badly on the blacks and Hispanics.

Yes my posts are based on personal observations and experiences, largely in the Southern California metropolitan area where I have lived for many years and  have personally observed its transformation  from a wonderful American first world environment to what is largely a third world sewer.

No person who lives in California will believe that 76% of the population is still white.  Here is a satellite map of metropolitan Los Angeles County and parts of Northern Orange County, broken down by race and ethnicity.  As you can see, whites are no more than 25% at best and the racial "communities" are clearly and rigidly segregated.  Note that the white areas are around the edges of the city and that the core, inner Los Angeles  city is solidly  black and Hispanic.  

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/walkingsf/4982010932/in/set-72157624812674967/


This link is to a Google map entitled "Gangs of Los Angeles".  Notice the cluster of these gangs is located completely within the black/Hispanic population in the central city area.  There are no white street gangs in Los Angeles and I have never heard of any anywhere in California, at least not within the last 20 years.  There are white prison gangs, formed for purposes of self preservation and self defense for white inmates  for protection against black and Hispanic prison gangs, but no street gangs.   I guess there are still outlaw bikers somewhere, but I haven't seen any white bikers in Southern California for years.  I read the  LA Times and follow California news  and can't remember the last time I read of crime by white gangs,  except prison gangs behind bars.  In any event, this link and the  ethnic gang cluster speaks for itself.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=109207396431294085739.00000112583e7047c0070


Here is a map showing anti-gang injunctions obtained by the LA County DA's office shown on LAPD website.  Note there are no white gang injunctions listed.

http://www.lapdonline.org/gang_injunctions


I googled "White Street Gangs" and got the following  Wikipedia listing of street gangs, and a listing of "caucasion street gangs."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_California_street_gangs#Caucasian_American

Cacausion street gangs are identified as follows:

    * Nazi Lowriders
    * Peckerwood
    * Public Enemy No. 1
    * Sydney Ducks
    * Aryan Brotherhood
    * Hells Angels MC
    * Neo-Nazi
    * KKK

I only recognize the Hells Angels, Aryan Brotherhood and KKK.   The KKK is not a  "street gang" and this is really reaching to call it one.  In the absence of any bona fide white street gangs they have to dredge up the KKK for Christ's sake.  Hells Angels is an old white motorcycle gang founded in  the late 1940's after WW2.  The last time I heard of them was on the History Channel.   Aryan Brotherhood is primarily a prison gang. I never heard of any of the rest.  In the last 20 years or so I have never seen any reference to any white street gang in the LA Times or the local news, except for white prison gangs.

If you click on Neo-nazi you will be linked to another page that talks about neo-Nazi political organizations, hate speech, blah, blah, blah.  This is not a street gang in the same sense as the Bloods, Crips, Mara Trucia 13, etc.  Any white street gang violence would most certainly be pounced upon by the local media and trumpeted as an example of racism, Jim Crow, blah, blah. blah.  This has not happened in the last 20 years or so.  The closest thing  to a white street gang we have in Los Angeles is the LAPD which is routinely condemned by the "minorities" every time it shoots some black or Mexican dope dealer, robber, etc.

Sorry if you're offended by the fact that violent crime is overwhelmingly a product of your beloved Hispanics and other minorities.  So are bad schools, welfare fraud, urban blight,  and illegal immigration.  If you  visit  Los Angeles or research the issue, visit welfare offices, criminal courts, hospitals, etc., you will see only Hispanics, not Swedes, French, Italians, or Germans.  In case you don't follow the issue, all of the anti-immigration protests involve Hispanics, not Irish or Norwegians.  Just as we were attacked by Japanese in 1941, we are being invaded by Mexicans and other non-white nationalities today.  We did not declare war on Iceland after the Japs bombed Pearl Harbor and we should not overlook the true enemy today.

The issue is not winning their votes.  The issue is killing them.  That's where this thing is going. Just look at Mexico today if you want to see America tomorrow.  In Arizona, an American rancher was shot four times in the chest by Mexican drug cartel murderers  and the US Gov't (our Kenyan President)  sued the State of Arizona and Arizona sheriffs who are trying to protect other Americans from these murdering savages. There is a shooting civil war in Mexico and it's spilling over into the US. 
 
 In Southern California, entire towns are under the control of Mexican gangs through bribery, election fraud, etc. There are tens of thousands of Mexican gangs and they are well armed.   The City of  Los Angeles spends $20 million a year on so called "gang outreach" programs that consist of putting gang bangers on the city payroll so that they can "reach out" to other gang members. (!)  One of these groups got $7 million of tax dollars before LAPD caught them  running guns, including sub machine guns and arranging murders for Mexican gangs.  Another incident involved the LAPD stopping a couple of guys for a traffic offense. They flashed "I.D's' and said they were law enforcement too. Whoa!  LAPD  ran their names an both had rap sheets, They were "minorities' who were on the payroll as "gang outreach" types for one of the LA city councilmen.   Do you understand this? The City of LA is laying off teachers and cops, but has money to put Mexican murderers on the city payroll?   The world is completely upside down here  in Los Angeles because the Mexican crime syndicates have more political clout than ordinary people.  Inmates are running the asylum!  

Have you ever heard of "White Flight?"  It refers to millions of white who have fled the inner cities since the 1950's  (since Brown v. Board of Eduction)  to get away from all of the above. If you think there is no difference between living in an all white area and an area overrun by illegal aliens from Mexico or wherever,  then you are delusional.  The inner cities of America are all solidly  non-white because white people had enough sense to run away.  (Racism:  wanting a nice neighborhood and good schools for your children.)  Unfortunately,  whites are  running out of places to run and are going to have to stand and fight if they want to save this country.

 If calling me a "racist" makes you feel less guilty for slavery, Jim Crow,  discrimination, blah, blah, blah....that's between you and your psychiatrist.  This country is being invaded by hordes of third world primitives, they are destroying the quality of life for Americans and that's why white Americans  in Arizona and other parts of the US are finally waking up and doing something about it.      

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« Reply #55 on: October 06, 2010, 05:07:46 PM »
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 Moratorium on all immigration. After that, reform immigration laws to prohibit all non-white immigration and all Muslim immigration.   Multi-racial, multi-cultural societies are simply suicidal. They're inherently unstable and dangerous.  Quarreling factions are fatal to healthy unified  country.  Multi-culturalism is suicide. If their third world, non-white "culture" was so wonderful, they would not have to run away from it  for a "better life" in the white, European USA.  Third world primitives are not capable of creating or maintaining the kind of advanced civilization achieved by European Americans. European Americans should not be forced to subsidize third world hordes and domesticate them at tax payer expense.  Militarize the borders of the US and shoot to kill invaders.    Pass a "Illegal Alien Removal Act" and "Muslim Removal Act" to round up and expel all illegal hispanics, Somalis, Chinese, etc., and remove all Muslims, whether legal or not.  Islam is a criminal conspiracy more akin to organized crime than religion and Muslims should not be allowed to subvert America by wrapping themselves in the flag.   IF they don't go peaceably, shoot them.





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I agree with your other suggestions for a perfect country, but I see the immigration problem a little different.

I think all immigration needs to be suspended! Regardless of race or color. We are no longer building a nation. We have past that stage. Now were in the dismantling stage. As far as you being a racist, I think we all are racists if we love the color of our skin.Problem is! In America, you can only officially be racist if your white.Look up the definition of Racist. We all fit into one or more of the definition's.

Government cannot legislate morality, and forced integration has never worked, and never will.
There is an old saying "Birds of a feather flock together" It's the nature of things! Doesn't mean one is better than the other.....Just different We live in a more segregated society today than we did in the 50's.It didn't work! Blacks want to live with blacks and Mexicans want to live with Mexicans, the same with Chinese,Arabs and others, and they do.Problem for the white Europeans is........They cannot do the same without being a racist. I don't think anyone on the forum can, in all honesty say.....they do not fit at least one of the definitions of the word racist.




 
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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #56 on: October 06, 2010, 05:30:47 PM »
Obama & all Lefties are really into that progressive way of doing things, "progressive" tax rates. Obummer like others wants to make it more progessive. We could call it the Employers Tax Of 2011.
Last I heard broke people aren't hiring.
Part of the problem is the terms like Progressive.  Sounds like they want Progress.... But NO
Progressive = one who Progresses the Socialist adgenda.
Liberal= Pure Big Government Socialist (remember the Nazi Party were Socialists, that saw Government as the answer and had scape goats too.  Do the words "Big .... as evil" and why we need to control, regulate or abolish it.)  Some how "Big Government" is never evil to them.
Centrist= In the middle between Socialist and communist.  Not between a liberal and a conservitive.
Right wing looney= Anyone that thinks bugets should be met, My freedoms end where yours begin, and that taxes should not exceed 25% of total income.  For ALL taxes.  Federal, State, Sales, Phone, Fee, assesments, Property and on and on of all the nickel and dimeing done to us.
Religous Right= anyone that attends church regularly and believes in God.  Unless you are a minority.

Exactly!
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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #57 on: October 06, 2010, 05:59:51 PM »
Actually LGM scares me much less than you liberal parasites. I know where he stands. You spineless lice are only here to suck the blood from your working hosts.
99% of all Lawyers give the other 1% a bad name. What I find hilarious about this is they are such an arrogant bunch, that they all think they are in the 1%.

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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #58 on: October 07, 2010, 02:53:23 AM »
Actually LGM scares me much less than you liberal parasites. I know where he stands. You spineless lice are only here to suck the blood from your working hosts.
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Re: You far right people, what would your perfect country look like?
« Reply #59 on: October 07, 2010, 03:32:42 AM »
Actually LGM scares me much less than you liberal parasites. I know where he stands. You spineless lice are only here to suck the blood from your working hosts.
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Who I am speaking of here is the liberals and the liberals who are even more spinless, the ones who call themselves moderates out of shame. These folks are flip floppers and back stabbers with no views that can be counted  upon. I'm not big on the racism thing, but ya know what you have a right to believe whatever you want.
99% of all Lawyers give the other 1% a bad name. What I find hilarious about this is they are such an arrogant bunch, that they all think they are in the 1%.