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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2010, 04:34:39 AM »
I don't like the idea of police running over anyone. They're supposed to apprehend, not punish, for those saying the guy deserved it. If we're going to go with street justice... perhaps for consistency's sake, allow citizens the same leeway in dealing with patronizing & abusive LEOs/gov't officials? Hmmmm?
  sounds good to me. 

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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2010, 04:46:39 AM »
Wow it seems the communist/socialist crowd has already won many of you over. You already want to discard the constitution and just let the LEOs be judge, jury and executioner.

I'm totally ashamed of you. I'd have thought gun owners were one of the strongest supporters of the Constitution but then I guess like most of society today you have a ME attitude and don't care what happens to anyone else but yourself.

If they are allowed to do these kinda things to a "supposed bad guy" which is all he was at the time then they not only can but will do it to you. Ya don't hafta run to be shot, killed, run over or whatever if you give them cart blanch to determine guilt on the fly and execute.

I had no idea we had so many socialist/communist thinkers on here.


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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2010, 04:53:59 AM »
Wow it seems the communist/socialist crowd has already won many of you over. You already want to discard the constitution and just let the LEOs be judge, jury and executioner.
Not me.
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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #33 on: October 01, 2010, 05:21:38 AM »
yt3, I am reasonably certain that BB was commenting to William.

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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2010, 05:45:11 AM »
Speaking only for myself I reckon my attitude is such because with todays lawyers, aclu, and pantywetter judges what happened to that man may be the only punishment that man gets, if he's guilty. I guess I'm fed up with the legal system and seeing the guilty roaming the streets. The courts seem to completely disregard victims and their rights and concentrate on the poor misunderstood punk in the street. Purse snatching is  a crime, in many cases a violent crime. An old lady might have ALL of her check in her purse and be depending on it to pay her bills, and buy food for an entire month. The system is sick. POWDERMAN.  :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2010, 06:04:44 AM »
I, first of all, do not think this guy was innocent. The report doesn't indicate mistaken Idenity and he dang sure didn't act like it.
I doubt the officer was trying to hit him---they are taught better driving skills than that.
BB has a hard on for Cops---no doubt about that.
If we would have it BB's way--no cop would be allowed to arrest if a man said he did not want to be.
But, then again, BB doesn't think like a rational man.
When a suspect runs from the cops it gets their blood up---it shure would mine.
When they run they put a lot of folks in danger---think about that.
When the run they have the opportunity to turn back on you---think about that.
As a matter of fact guys--THINK.
Whats with the name calling GB--I am certainly no communist or socialist.
I am not a bleeding heart--as some seem to be here.
I hate a thief, possibly more than a murder. It aint what he eats up it is what he messes up.
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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2010, 07:06:14 AM »
Wow it seems the communist/socialist crowd has already won many of you over. You already want to discard the constitution and just let the LEOs be judge, jury and executioner.

I'm totally ashamed of you. I'd have thought gun owners were one of the strongest supporters of the Constitution but then I guess like most of society today you have a ME attitude and don't care what happens to anyone else but yourself.

If they are allowed to do these kinda things to a "supposed bad guy" which is all he was at the time then they not only can but will do it to you. Ya don't hafta run to be shot, killed, run over or whatever if you give them cart blanch to determine guilt on the fly and execute.

I had no idea we had so many socialist/communist thinkers on here.
I've said it before.  Most of those here who claim to be pro-Constitution are either lying or don't understand what they are saying.  What they really support are the parts of the Constitution that they like... not the rest.  It's a marriage of convenience for them. 

I too am totally ashamed of them.  Great post.

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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2010, 07:18:29 AM »
I, first of all, do not think this guy was innocent. The report doesn't indicate mistaken Idenity and he dang sure didn't act like it.

You might not think that.  My inclination wouldn't be that way either, but it's up to a jury to decide innocence or guilt, not cops and certainly not hunches or gut feelings.

That's the simple point.  The officers job is to bring him to trial so that his guilt (if he is guilty) can be proven, and THEN punishment handed out accordingly.  As soon as cops get a free pass to do as they wish just because he was "guilty" (in the eyes of some of them "everybody's guilty of SOMETHING"), society starts living under their yoke.

Sure it might be common sense that he's guilty, but common sense will steer you wrong from time to time.  Common sense says that the Earth is flat.  Common sense says that a 5lbs ball will fall faster than 3lbs ball.

The system is there to catch things those exceptions to the rule.  It won't do much good though when the cops are out running over and shooting suspects just because they are suspected of comitting a crime.  Those that were guilty will be punished in time, once due process (that pesky 5th amendment - remember there are more than just the 2nd one ;)) as been served.  As Thomas Jefferson himself said: "Better that 100 guilty men go free than 1 innocent man be imprisoned."  

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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2010, 07:21:20 AM »
+1 Powderman. The system is sick. My cop friends get very frustrated when a criminal is released without doing any time, or paying retribution. I understand that. I also would not want the USA to be like Russia where the cops can bring in a suspect that  needs medical aid and nobody questions the police. My first thought when I saw the video was vehicular assault. Not much different than fed rangers in AK throwing people into the ground willy nilly because they don't know who they are.Policing is a very difficult job from every aspect, but doing the right thing under pressure is the dividing line between good cop/bad cop IMO.

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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2010, 08:06:41 AM »
Speaking only for myself I reckon my attitude is such because with todays lawyers, aclu, and pantywetter judges what happened to that man may be the only punishment that man gets, if he's guilty. I guess I'm fed up with the legal system and seeing the guilty roaming the streets. The courts seem to completely disregard victims and their rights and concentrate on the poor misunderstood punk in the street. Purse snatching is  a crime, in many cases a violent crime. An old lady might have ALL of her check in her purse and be depending on it to pay her bills, and buy food for an entire month. The system is sick. POWDERMAN.  :o :o :o :o :o :o
i have to agree. the career criminals walk time after time, while citizens who are trying get hammered relentlessly.  i think what it boils down to is graybeard has more faith in the system than i do; even though i have seen him say time after time that he is sick of the way the world is.    from where i am standing, we are living in anarchy right now. some are following the rules and trying, and others are playing the system like a cheap fiddle and ignoring the rules.
   i do not see how me supporting the police trying to stop someone fleeing from them makes me a socialist.  last time i checked, running from the police IS A CRIME.  that is the law.  either you believe in the law or you do not. 

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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2010, 11:11:46 AM »
You got to catch 'em to arrest 'em.
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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2010, 02:51:51 PM »
You got to catch 'em to arrest 'em.
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YEP. I reckon if the punk doesn't want to stop or be arrested it's ok with some here. I guess that cops can't be cops unless they are bigger, stronger, and faster than the punk they are chasing. Cops have to put their lives on the line daily, I have no sympathy for that guy, he should have stopped when ordered to do so. POWDERMAN.  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2010, 03:11:47 PM »
This isn't about us messing up a criminal, I have no problem with that at all...it's about a police officer.  I'm not feeling sorry for the guy either if he's a coward and a thief. This is a police officer.  I don't know if it was intentional or not either, just sayin if it was, the officer is stuck with a higher standard than mine, like I said it would have been better if the victim ran him down and the officer just smiled and took him into custody/hosptial.  Would be interesting to find out if they ruled he lost control of the car, or lost control of himself for a minute.

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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2010, 04:57:50 PM »
Ive watched the video a couple of times since the thread started. For my part I think the officer was trying to cut him off and he may have just "misfiggered"  :)  and ran over the guy! Regardless in this litigious society we live in today, the guy will get a payoff, I'm betting!  I'd like to think that he was NOT out to intentionally run him down.
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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2010, 05:04:40 PM »
And when they come for you?
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« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2010, 05:11:36 PM »
And when they come for you?
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I guess I'll deal with that when the time comes. If its for something I did, I'll be ready. If its for something I believe, I'll be ready for that too!  Better that than alzhiemers. I'd just like to see more of my grandchildren when they get here.
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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2010, 05:53:17 PM »
Anyone catch the caliber of that truck 150, 250 ?
I don't see the excessive force here .. he ran , That's a crime in itself.  The truck obviously couldn't stop in time. Oh well.
Stuff happens and you need to be responsible for the consequences of your actions.

kinda stupid really , all that for purse snatching? a good lawyer or bondsman would have had him out in 30 minutes.
medical bills will cost more than the bond would have been. Guilty or not guilty of the charge is immaterial. once he ran he put the wheels in motion (literally in this case) and anything that happened after that was a direct result of his poor decision to run.
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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2010, 05:59:33 PM »
oldshooter brings up a good point....i watched the video several times after reading the oringinal post.  while the driver's side wheels are turning, you can see the skid marks in the dirt on the passenger side of the truck....those breaks were on.   

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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #48 on: October 01, 2010, 06:55:42 PM »
You got to catch 'em to arrest 'em.
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And you end a sentence like that with the word.........."BLESSINGS" I'm sure you mean it!

I totally agree with you GB.Sad day, when our fellow gun owners and "supposedly" believers in the Constitution, can take pleasure in seeing our fellow Americans treated in this manner.

I'm sure they will tell you, they would feel the same if it happened to their sons or daughters.(YEA RIGHT)
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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #49 on: October 01, 2010, 06:59:17 PM »
how do you know he was an american?   for all we know he was an illegal alien....but if you got facts, i am sure we would like to see them. 

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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #50 on: October 01, 2010, 07:10:42 PM »
how do you know he was an american?   for all we know he was an illegal alien....but if you got facts, i am sure we would like to see them. 


I guess I should have said.........Fellow human beings.Would it have made a diff?
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« Reply #51 on: October 01, 2010, 07:20:48 PM »
Just as with war coverage, it's all too easy to watch it or read about it and sit back and judge those involved. Were we involved personaly we might see things much differantly. Then too, often enough there is no 100% right answer branded in black and white. Sometimes the best choice is simply a shade of grey at best. I've worked in law enforcement, as have and do, many members of my family on many differant levels, and one thing I know for certain. Something is terribly wrong when the criminals have more rights that the victoms. Law officers get mighty tired and disillusioned when time after time the bad guy is back on the street before the officer even has finished his paper work. Criminals get out and go right back to doing what put them in in the first place. A little more street wise and harder to catch the next time. Often, the prosecuting Attorney is to blame. They like easy, sure fire wins where cases are concerned. Then too, think how often someone is murdered by a felon who did a light sentence for murder and was let out to kill someone else. It's scary how often that happens. A guy breaks into your home at two in the morning, you shoot him and don't kill him, and even with the "Castle Law" there's a good chance he can, and will, sue you. He might not win but he can sure cost you money, time and grief. Laws are meant to be enforced but all too often they are open to interpetation. In this case, some of you are blaming the criminal. Some the officer. But fact is, the criminal is the one who put himself in the situation to begin with. Don't necesarily make the officer right, or wrong. But it clearly makes the criminal wrong now don't it? Frankly, the officer will probably face a review of the incident. Not my place to judge him. That's what his superiors are paid to do.

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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #52 on: October 02, 2010, 04:40:51 AM »
Why didn't the punk "Cowboy Up" and face the music?  In my opinion he placed himself in "harms way"s when he ran.................

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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #53 on: October 02, 2010, 04:43:51 AM »
Frankly, the officer will probably face a review of the incident. Not my place to judge him. That's what his superiors are paid to do.

maybe the officer felt threatened - that's card they play with most success. Get away with damned near anything if you're LEO and you felt threatened... including things that would get me locked up (or shot, were LEO involved)
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« Reply #54 on: October 02, 2010, 07:09:26 AM »
This was in 2006, I'm sure we can look up and find out what all became of this.
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« Reply #55 on: October 02, 2010, 07:20:29 AM »
I guess you guys might find objection too "you might beat the rap but you won't beat the ride."
I am in favor of police---I will admit that.
I also believe that 99% do a good, honest, days work.
I also believe in a higher standard for police.
But, above all that I have said above, I believe in catching folks that break the law.
I also do not find any sympathany in my bones for a guy that wants to defy being caught or what happens to him when he is caught.
Having been in a skirmace or two--it is my general opinion and those of them that I was involved with--I am going to end the resistance, not giving a chance for one to resume the resistance---whatever that takes.
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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #56 on: October 02, 2010, 09:32:36 AM »
There are way too many murders committed by too many convicted of murder then turned loose back on society. In a plea bargain almost always it is the criminal getting the bargain, not society. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #57 on: October 02, 2010, 06:11:36 PM »
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Why didn't the punk "Cowboy Up" and face the music?  In my opinion he placed himself in "harms way"s when he ran.................

Thats what I am talking about.  If he was so innocent, then why did he feel the need to flee?  Running from the police usually doesnt end very well or in your favor although this idiot probablyy sued and got paid thanks to a bleeding heart jury.  I guess one can make the argument that crime does pay, dont it?

Its things like that, that after 2 years of working law enforcement I quit and went out and found something more worth while to do.  Besides it was nice to finally have a job where your not spit on cursed out and constantly accused of being a racist.  Being a door mat for the general public to walk on got old quick.

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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #58 on: October 03, 2010, 04:32:45 PM »
Obviously the cop is an amateur here in Spokane they shoot unarmed pregnant women in the back while they are running away.
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Re: Arrested Texas Style
« Reply #59 on: October 04, 2010, 06:21:56 AM »
In a plea bargain almost always it is the criminal getting the bargain, not society. POWDERMAN.  :o :o

BS - sometimes the ADA will charge several things, knowing that you'll plead to something, which... gets chalked up as a win for the prosector.

As a public service, let me inform all here - for prosecutors, winning is very often far, far more important than justice.
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